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[)roi(];11790610 said:
Actually you made some welcome additions to what was initially an awful thread.
Good distracting tactic employed. Frontal attack on the start, then discourage OP from posting further details of the problem by creating distraction. After all these actions the original post can look as a troll as desired (and declared from the beginning).
 
Good distracting tactic employed. Frontal attack on the start, then discourage OP from posting further details of the problem by creating distraction. After all these actions the original post can look as a troll as desired (and declared from the beginning).

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OP is pis&$# off, this is exactly what you wanted to achieve.
Have a nice Christmas.
 
OP is pis&$# off, this is exactly what you wanted to achieve.
Have a nice Christmas.
Can't see why -- the OP was asked on more than one occasion (not just in this thread) to provide more detail: clearly the problem is that the OP didn't!

We certainly don't need to hear repetitive complaints from any OP; surely the purpose of making a complaints in a forum is to seek advice in an attempt to improve their situation.

We choose to be apart of this forum: providing & receiving advice, a veritable symbiosis, certainly never an antibiosis.

Ps. I fairly confident we would have experienced a different outcome were the OP to have provided more clarification or alternatively were the OP to have from the beginning openly stated that their threads were rhetorical vents of their disapproval of Apple's services and products.
 
Number of years spent doing the same thing over and over again doesn't mean anything.

Washing dishes for 30 years doesn't make you any better or worse at washing dishes.

You still don't really elaborate on what exactly your problem is, you come across as someone who just wants to moan and not really find a solution at all.

Bluetooth is a standard and although I can't confirm the same exact two devices work as I don't have those at hand I can agree with you that it's bull**** that they aren't designed to work together.

However I have two questions.

Why do you have a Verizon iPhone in SA? There's a slim chance the problem might be related to that somehow.

Secondly why haven't you upgraded to Mavericks in search of a better result?

The problem is that I a) am now the owner of devices that perform below price/expectation and the trust is gone, b) it cannot do what it was supposed to (as communicated by both MyIstore and Digicape staff.) It cannot sync Notes through iTunes, only through iCloud.

Hardware:

Both MBP and iPhone5 have trouble seeing each other, trouble to connect when they finally recognise another and then both randomly will not recognise the IPhone 5S's hotspot nor connect to it. Nokia E63 and C6 see all these devices and can connect to it.


The hardware issues are something you cannot fix for me but just maybe somehow knows a workaround to sync Notes on the latest updates of iOS7 and ML via wireless or usb. This already will be a great help.

I have researched going back to iOS6 on the iPhone 5 but it is not exactly possible unless I have a Windows computer, an iPhone 4 and some know-how.

Wifi seems to be a tad flimsy, maybe the antennas or comms modules are dropping signal to conserve power, not sure. It just is no fun having to spend my days getting these things to connect. There is a bigger life than ICT out there and I am missing out on it. I just want things to work as it should.

If someone has a workaround for the Notes sync………??

I have found software called DevoNote and this could possibly solve the issue of Notes sync by virtue of an alternative set of apps, at an added cost. Maybe someone finds that solution useful.

The iPhone can sync with Outlook for Windows using Companionlink, it seems. Once again. this information may be useful to someone out there.
 
It's terrible. That's why I installed the Start button and disabled the hot corners.



That's a subjective assessment. And I disagree. Note how Apple itself markets its own products - Macbook "Air", iPad "Air" - to allude to the lightness of the device. But 1.3kg is not light. An 875g - and they now have a 795g 13.3 inch Haswell version now too, is a joy to use, unlike heavy clunker Airs. Otherwise the machine does everything a Mac does in terms of Acrobat, Office, email, multimedia, etc functionality. It's a win-win. The laptop feels like a mock up but it is rock solid. There is no bend at all when I type on my lap. Apple needs to deliver some light devices and not merely call their computers "Air". :)

A portable machine should be portable, lightness and build quality matter. Both shine here. This machine has an i7 CPU at 2GHz, a Samsung 256GB SSD, 4GB RAM and a 13.3 inch screen at 1600x900. The new models use IGZO displays at 2560x1440. The SSD is upgradable.

Oh and unlike the rMBP, NEC was able to fit in a Kensington lock hole. :)



I don't use mt gestures. I'm just a highlight, drag, drop etc type guy. Even on OSX gestures sometimes get in the way, but it happens more on Windoze. :)

I'm derailing this topic. Apologies. :)

"Derailing" the topic did not hurt me, you actually gave some useful insights. :) This is how we learn, remember?
 
[)roi(];11786920 said:
@alatheia

If you want us to give you the benefit of the doubt then explain as requested by everyone exactly what you are trying to do?

Don't talk generally about BT iPhone to MBP -- explain what you need it to do, for example: transfer files, music, access / change contacts?

Also to be taken seriously, it's best to stop quoting Apple forums; the fact that there are many others similarly confused doesn't automatically make their (or your) problems valid.

Remember the iPhone was designed by a different set of engineers, so it's unreasonable to believe it's going to operate the same way as Nokia's phones.

Ps. If you're open to taking advice then you could learn a thing or two.

Droid, point taken but you get me wrong. I do not want or expect it to work like a Nokia. All I want it to be doing is to at least integrate with its own family of products, consisting of hardware and software supposedly designed for that purpose.

I think that, after having spent thirty years successfully installing systems across SA and even halfway around the globe, that I should have the basic skills required to get these devices to work. I have done my bit of RPN, CP/M-80, a little bit of Unix, became rather hands-on with some fifteen distress of Linux, not to mention MS DOS from the early 1980's, as well as the wacky world of Windows. I am seasoned enough to know what to be expecting and I can assure you that the Apple products under my roof do not pass the test of a fair deal. I have designed and installed fairly large LAN's at mining and industrial sites, doctors, dentists, at smaller airlines - been around a bit and usually help others, but these Apples show random inconsistencies. Even if it only worked as well as the cheap, old Nokias, I would have been a happy man. At the prices, too many hardware issues, let alone being incompatible with itself.
 
What's the issue with Notes syncing via iCloud?

When the cloud is not available. I spend enough time where there is no proper signal to have my devices function. If the connectivity was mature and reliable, I would have had no need to pursue this. Just outside Durbanville, one one of my projects, I need to clamber up a high fence to get a signal strong enough to send a ams. Making a call or using the internet is just not possible. Maybe in a decade or so, the cloud will be a useful tool. There are so many spots in Cape Town and surrounds where cellular signal strength is both weak and intermitted, even in the CBD. Trie 8ta, Cell C, MTN and Vodacom.
 
When the cloud is not available. I spend enough time where there is no proper signal to have my devices function. If the connectivity was mature and reliable, I would have had no need to pursue this. Just outside Durbanville, one one of my projects, I need to clamber up a high fence to get a signal strong enough to send a ams. Making a call or using the internet is just not possible. Maybe in a decade or so, the cloud will be a useful tool. There are so many spots in Cape Town and surrounds where cellular signal strength is both weak and intermitted, even in the CBD. Trie 8ta, Cell C, MTN and Vodacom.

But you have either one of the devices you've just entered the note on with you so why would you need it to on the other instantly?

And SURELY whipping out your laptop and plugging in the USB cable is going to happen less frequently than entering a signal area.

Your logic makes no sense.

At most you will manually sync every night, maybe once a week in reality. You will go in and out of signal area on an hourly or bi-hourly basis.

USB and Bluetooth as a syncing technology are old and dead, not to mention inefficient which is probably why Apple dropped the feature to further progression to new technology that makes more sense.

*****

Everything integrates perfectly, you are just too stubborn to accept the way it integrated.

If anything YOU are the one that can't integrate.

*****

I have worked with hundreds of Apple devices and have owned three generations of them myself amongst 7 different devices and I've never had my of these deal breaking hardware problems you are referring to.

In my hears of working with Macs I've had one DOA. A couple where optical drives needed replacing after years of usage and a few hard drive failures that can't be blamed on Apple. I've had one G4 logic board replaced and one Intel logic board replaced. A few white iMac LCD's replaced under warranty due to a batch problem.

That's a small handful of issues amongst hundreds.
 
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USB and Bluetooth as a syncing technology are old and dead, not to mention inefficient which is probably why Apple dropped the feature to further progression to new technology that makes more sense.
This is how home-grown IT experts interpret insufficient support for established technologies. Definitely wrong.

Bluetooth in current form 3.0+HS and above is fast enough to satisfy most of users. Don't tell me that 24Mbps is not fast enough for syncing. It is easier to configure and more energy efficient than WiFi, as it use low power BT transmitters for signalling and alternate high-speed MAC/PHY (WiFi-like) only during tranfering data. For the user it means longer battery life than WiFi connection.

I can't really argue for the assertion that USB is dead, you would need to provide some supporting arguments.
 
This is how home-grown IT experts interpret insufficient support for established technologies. Definitely wrong.

Bluetooth in current form 3.0+HS and above is fast enough to satisfy most of users. Don't tell me that 24Mbps is not fast enough for syncing. It is easier to configure and more energy efficient than WiFi, as it use low power BT transmitters for signalling and alternate high-speed MAC/PHY (WiFi-like) only during tranfering data. For the user it means longer battery life than WiFi connection.

I can't really argue for the assertion that USB is dead, you would need to provide some supporting arguments.

Bluetooth in addition to Wifi would be more inefficient not so? And considering wifi to be always on in the modern world that makes it more inefficient as a usage case even if the technology itself is not.

USB is inefficient on the context of the modern connected world. I'm saying its dead in this context of syncing notes.
 
Bluetooth in addition to Wifi would be more inefficient not so? And considering wifi to be always on in the modern world that makes it more inefficient as a usage case even if the technology itself is not.
What are you trying to say? Two different statements and nothing makes sense. Complete gibbersh.
USB is inefficient on the context of the modern connected world. I'm saying its dead in this context of syncing notes.
OK. As in the modern connected world notes are dead, right?
 
What are you trying to say? Two different statements and nothing makes sense.

OK. As in the modern connected world notes are dead, right?

I'm saying if you are going to have wifi on anyway, then Bluetooth is a bit silly. So since Wifi is better supported in general makes sense to support it as a medium.

Connected equals Internet. Internet equals iCloud. So no, no need for USB.
 
Droid, point taken but you get me wrong. I do not want or expect it to work like a Nokia. All I want it to be doing is to at least integrate with its own family of products, consisting of hardware and software supposedly designed for that purpose.
Then provide specific examples and we'll try to advise you on the best solution (our opinions)

Btw it might help your plight if you try to avoid asking a question and slating the product in the same post.

I think that, after having spent thirty years successfully installing systems across SA and even halfway around the globe, that I should have the basic skills required to get these devices to work. I have done my bit of RPN, CP/M-80, a little bit of Unix, became rather hands-on with some fifteen distress of Linux, not to mention MS DOS from the early 1980's, as well as the wacky world of Windows. I am seasoned enough to know what to be expecting and I can assure you that the Apple products under my roof do not pass the test of a fair deal. I have designed and installed fairly large LAN's at mining and industrial sites, doctors, dentists, at smaller airlines - been around a bit and usually help others, but these Apples show random inconsistencies. Even if it only worked as well as the cheap, old Nokias, I would have been a happy man. At the prices, too many hardware issues, let alone being incompatible with itself.
Sorry but that doesn't mean anything iro this thread, and I'm certainly not going to sink to a pissing contest with you (Ps. You would lose)

Surely being as "seasoned" as you claim, you should have a reasonable insight into the fact there a variety of ways to achieve the same functionality, and by being different does not automatically make one platform worse than another.

Surely the best way to approach this would be to ask advice, rather than criticize. I'm assuming of course that was not your underlying intent.
 
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I'm saying if you are going to have wifi on anyway, then Bluetooth is a bit silly. So since Wifi is better supported in general makes sense to support it as a medium.
Why do not have both? Each technology has its own puspose and marketplace. I would use BT for personal network home (and enjoy longer battery life) and WiFi for special needs or in public places. BT is perfectly balanced, mature technology and unless someone wants to broadcast video files it works well, why don't use it? Hardware is already here, just fill-up gaps in driver protocol stack to get it working as expected and advertised.
Connected equals Internet. Internet equals iCloud. So no, no need for USB.
This is exactly what OP is trying to do, right?
 
Why do not have both? Each technology has its own puspose and marketplace. I would use BT for personal network home (and enjoy longer battery life) and WiFi for special needs or in public places. BT is perfectly balanced, mature technology and unless someone wants to broadcast video files it works well, why don't use it? Hardware is already here, just fill-up gaps in driver protocol stack to get it working as expected and advertised.

This is exactly what OP is trying to do, right?

Let the OP talk for himself, if you have questions start another thread or ask your own questions -- none of us are mind readers.
 
[)roi(];11839942 said:
Let the OP talk for himself, if you have questions start another thread or ask your own questions -- none of us are mind readers.
OP is back and spoke already. I do understand what OP wants to achieve. Do you?
 
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