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[)roi(];11839966 said:
Good then let the OP talk, find your own topic.
Why you are getting upset? Short of arguments? I understand...
 
Why you are getting upset? Short of arguments? I understand...

Surely you must have read up (in detail) about the iPhone (incl. BT) before you bought one; especially considering your "knowledge"?

By the way if you want to gripe with like minded people, then here's a good thread for this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647

Otherwise send your feedback to Apple, and if enough people ask, maybe it'll be included (doubtful) : http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
 
[)roi(];11839984 said:
Surely you must have read up (in detail) about the iPhone (incl. BT) before you bought one; especially considering your "knowledge"?

By the way if you want to gripe with like minded people, then here's a good thread for this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647
Link above is about BT interoperability between various iOS devices, not between latest iOS devices and the latest MBP. In other words your comment is completely inappropriate, not to mention arrogant.

BTW, if you talk about 'my' knowledge, my first BT device was experimental Ericsson phone (the first BT phone, don't remember the name), and first fully functional BT phone was Sony Ericsson K700i. It had at least twice as many BT profiles as iPhone 5 (circa 2005), but it was also earlier model T28 with similiar features. It just shows how Apple BT technology is behind.
 
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Link above is about BT interoperability between various iOS devices, not between latest iOS devices and the latest MBP. In other words your comment is completely inappropriate, not to mention arrogant..
Nope! Not between the iOS devices, but rather what the various iOS devices support. Struggling with comprehension, eh?

Surely if you need to understand what each profile means then surely you would know how to Google for that?

BTW, if you talk about 'my' knowledge, my first BT device was experimental Ericsson phone (the first BT phone, don't remember the name), and first fully functional BT phone was Sony Ericsson K700i. It had at least twice as many BT profiles as iPhone 5 (circa 2005), but it was also earlier model T28 with similiar features. It just shows how Apple BT technology is behind.
Yet for all that claimed historical "knowledge" about BT, you still went ahead and bought an iPhone when that link (easy discoverable via a Google search) clearly shows the types of profiles supported -- PAN, which btw works perfectly with a MB (works in conjunction with Personal Hotspot), most of the remainder of the profiles are for Hands Free operation (cars and BT headphones), and HID of course for external controllers, but surely you understood all of that?

So if it's not a lack of historic knowledge, then please explain why with someone who boasts to know so much, you would still make a mistake of buying an iPhone when clearly Apple didn't advertise to support the features you want?
 
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[)roi(];11840886 said:
Nope! Not between the iOS devices, but rather what the various iOS devices support. Struggling with comprehension, eh?
Well, it could be - irrelevant, as in our case OP has problem between iPhone 5 and the latest Mac Book Pro. Show me position in this table relevant to MBP, so we can talk.

BTW, Why do you insist that I bought anything from Apple? I don't understand, really... Cranial pressure? :)
 
[)roi(];11840886 said:
Nope! Not between the iOS devices, but rather what the various iOS devices support. Struggling with comprehension, eh?

Surely if you need to understand what each profile means then surely you would know how to Google for that?

Yet for all that claimed historical "knowledge" about BT, you still went ahead and bought an iPhone when that link (easy discoverable via a Google search) clearly shows the types of profiles supported -- PAN, which btw works perfectly with a MB (works in conjunction with Personal Hotspot), most of the remainder of the profiles are for Hands Free operation (cars and BT headphones), and HID of course for external controllers, but surely you understood all of that?

So if it's not a lack of historic knowledge, then please explain why with someone who boasts to know so much, you would still make a mistake of buying an iPhone when clearly Apple didn't advertise to support the features you want?


I did not buy ANY of this, my clever son did and now I have to adapt. A Windows laptop with a Nokia Asha would have done the job, and I would have had better signal, at much less cost. See, I did my homework but the younger generations want brand names!! The Asha 311 or 306 may be basic as a feature phone but it has good battery life and also much better signal capability than most smartphones. This is true for most feature phones.

(Not all Nokias are supported by Nokia Suite, one can read more on Nokia's website.)
 
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Well, it could be - irrelevant, as in our case OP has problem between iPhone 5 and the latest Mac Book Pro. Show me position in this table relevant to MBP, so we can talk.

BTW, Why do you insist that I bought anything from Apple? I don't understand, really... Cranial pressure? :)

For someone who apparently knows BT so well, do you really need me to explain what each BT profile does? Surely you are not hamstrung by either Google or Wikipedia?

Well correct me if I'm wrong, you do own an iPhone?
 
I did not buy ANY of this, my clever son did and now I have to adapt. A Windows laptop with a Nokia Asha would have done the job, and I would have had better signal, at much less cost. See, I did my homework but the younger generations want brand names!! The Asha 311 or 306 may be basic as a feature phone but it has good battery life and also much better signal capability than most smartphones. This is true for most feature phones.

(Not all Nokias are supported by Nokia Suite, one can read more on Nokia's website.)
Sorry but I'm struggling with your concept of adapting; surely there must be a difference between adapting and what seems like constant complaints.

Btw we're still waiting for you to be specific (with examples) about what you need to accomplish.

I think the Apple community here has been overly accommodating of your complaints; but equally frustrated by your lack of clarity about what you are trying to accomplish.

So if you truly are committed to adapting then stop the complaints and clarify in some detail what you need to accomplish?
 
For about a decade, I have had my devices sync automatically every 15 or 30 minutes. I like keeping my data up to date just as I run various automated back-ups. Businesses have failed in the past because they had no backups. And, with deteriorating eyesight, it is easier to work in a laptop or desktop but it does help to have certain current information at one's fingertips.

Yes, one can achieve this on a <R5k computer with a <R2k phone.

And, SauRoNZA, I am dealing with the reality of my own unreliable Apple devices. For this discussion, the historic reliability of your devices has no relevance. It is not about the brand and its esteem, it is about practical implications on my desk, not yours.

All those making comments as if I am daft: rather go elsewhere as you have added perfectly nothing to help me solve my issues here. In the ends, with the wisdom of experience, I will resort to lesser solutions with greater reliability and keep the iPhone for amusement.
 
For about a decade, I have had my devices sync automatically every 15 or 30 minutes. I like keeping my data up to date just as I run various automated back-ups. Businesses have failed in the past because they had no backups. And, with deteriorating eyesight, it is easier to work in a laptop or desktop but it does help to have certain current information at one's fingertips.

Yes, one can achieve this on a <R5k computer with a <R2k phone.

And, SauRoNZA, I am dealing with the reality of my own unreliable Apple devices. For this discussion, the historic reliability of your devices has no relevance. It is not about the brand and its esteem, it is about practical implications on my desk, not yours.

All those making comments as if I am daft: rather go elsewhere as you have added perfectly nothing to help me solve my issues here. In the ends, with the wisdom of experience, I will resort to lesser solutions with greater reliability and keep the iPhone for amusement.
I don't understand why you have not been able to achieve this automatic sync, as this works for me, surely it just a case of knowing how this can be accomplish using Apple tech?

As I said (and others); give us an example of what you are trying to do. We need detail, as it's difficult to give the right level of advice if we don't know what you are trying to sync, between what devices, for what reasons, what you have already tried, and what limitations you have e.g. network constraints, ...
 
I'm still confused as to what your actual issue is i.t.o. synching, notes, BT etc. You want your phone/laptop to communicate directly via BT instead of hotspot/cloud/usb, is that it?
 
I'm still confused as to what your actual issue is i.t.o. synching, notes, BT etc. You want your phone/laptop to communicate directly via BT instead of hotspot/cloud/usb, is that it?

We're all a little confused about exactly what the problem is -- hopefully the next response will provide this clarity.

It seems to me to be a problem of trying to make the Apple tech work the same way as it did with previous tech, as opposed to understanding how the equivalent functionality is provided for by Apple.
 
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It's quite a little strange; if you look through the posts and related responses (not only in this thread), there appears to be a pattern emerging; each time someone asks for clarity, none is ever provided?
Yet what's perceived to be wrong with the platform is shared very freely, or maybe I'm wrong?
 
[)roi(];11842246 said:
It's quite a little strange; if you look through the posts and related responses (not only in this thread), there appears to be a pattern emerging; each time someone asks for clarity, none is ever provided?
Yet what's perceived to be wrong with the platform is shared very freely, or maybe I'm wrong?

Even after I had clarified the issues I have, a lot of unrelated comments were posted, further confusing the issue.

I needed my iPhone and Macbook to sync ALL data locally as was possible between ML and iOS6. Notes only syncs through iCloud since iOS7.

I wanted to tether my iPhone and Macbook for internet connection and for sending/receiving files, so as to free up a USB port. (It only has 2 USB ports.) The two devices cannot pair as the iPhone is reported as an unsupported device.

I needed to access documents on my iPhone 5, which I cannot as it does not allow documents to be stored, apparently. I have tried various apps and none of them allowed me to edit a spreadsheet, for instance. (I can do this on any cheap Nokia in my home.)

Wireless also does not work because of intermittent connectivity seemingly due to inferior signal strength. Both these devices struggle to even see the hotspot set up with the iPhone 5S.

So, the ONLY thing that does work seamlessly is the iCloud service, which will be irrelevant at about 80% of the sites we work at.

Instead of bashing me for being stupid, as many did down below, lose "your" (to those who said I was stupid) own obvious stupidity and comment only when you have a working solution. Otherwise, leave no opinion, leave this post and keep it free from clutter.

Anyone who has found a solution, even through a paid third party application, or perhaps using Mac Server (unknown territory to me) or whatever combination of solutions….please do post and give workable ideas of how to circumnavigate the obstacles. In the past, I never quitted and mostly found solutions on my own. The learning curve here seems steep and I merely wanted advice from someone who had gone this route before, to share a solution as I have helped others in the past.

I may not be the only one needing this - just this morning had a similar report from an ICT professional from a first world country who has data sync issues with the same devices and less than a kilometre away from the antenna.

My thoughts were to use a combination of solutions, ranging from ownCloud, Companionlink and Devonote to Mac Server, hoping to marry technologies so that I can have functionality restored. It can be local via wireless, Bluetooth or USB. As you can see, I have done some research and I have found some possible solution, so much for being a daft, aged idiot.

As for the unreliability of the GPS part of the phone, spending another few thousand Rand on a Garmin GPS will solve this.

Thanks to the few who have the decency not to insult but who are prepared to advise.

There are too many trolls and busybodies on these forums and too few who are here to either learn or to help.
 
1. To pair your iPhone and MacBook via Bluetooth, switch on the Wifi Hotspot as well as Bluetooth. If you have issues with signal strength between the devices, bring them closer together.

2. To edit spreadsheets on a iPhone, download Numbers. There are other options but I recommend Numbers since it's the closest I could get to Excel.

3. Documents can be stored on the phone and transferred via iTunes. If you don't want to use iTunes, then transfer the file from Numbers to Goodreader and from there you can use several methods to transfer it to your Macbook. You can also transfer the file directly from Numbers to DropBox and it will then be available immediately on your MacBook if you have DropBox setup correctly. If you don't have a DropBox account, use this link https://db.tt/VxCVWqAJ
Your will get an extra 500mb storage because of the referral and I will get the same. ;)
 
1. To pair your iPhone and MacBook via Bluetooth, switch on the Wifi Hotspot as well as Bluetooth. If you have issues with signal strength between the devices, bring them closer together.

2. To edit spreadsheets on a iPhone, download Numbers. There are other options but I recommend Numbers since it's the closest I could get to Excel.

3. Documents can be stored on the phone and transferred via iTunes. If you don't want to use iTunes, then transfer the file from Numbers to Goodreader and from there you can use several methods to transfer it to your Macbook. You can also transfer the file directly from Numbers to DropBox and it will then be available immediately on your MacBook if you have DropBox setup correctly. If you don't have a DropBox account, use this link https://db.tt/VxCVWqAJ
Your will get an extra 500mb storage because of the referral and I will get the same. ;)

Hi Vinodh,

Thanks and yes, I will download and install Numbers, Pages (??) and Keynote. I was surprised that I could not edit a spreadsheet in Kingsoft Office, though. I also use it in Windows and Linux.

As for the other tips, I will follow them surely. My iTunes does not have an option for documents on the Macbook but these are on by default on the phone itself. Yet it does not transfer any of my documents. The phone came with iOS7 which apparently has less sync functionality than iOS6.

Cloud is a non-starter where I am.
 
Hi Vinodh,

Thanks and yes, I will download and install Numbers, Pages (??) and Keynote. I was surprised that I could not edit a spreadsheet in Kingsoft Office, though. I also use it in Windows and Linux.

As for the other tips, I will follow them surely. My iTunes does not have an option for documents on the Macbook but these are on by default on the phone itself. Yet it does not transfer any of my documents. The phone came with iOS7 which apparently has less sync functionality than iOS6.

Cloud is a non-starter where I am.

iTunes 11 for Mac: Transfer files between your computer and mobile apps
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12118

Numbers is the spreadsheet app, Pages is similar to Word and Keynote is similar to PowerPoint. Editing or creating spreadsheets takes some getting used to on a phone/tablet but it's quite simple once you know how. Here's some info on using Numbers on the iPhone: http://help.apple.com/numbers/iphone/2.0/

Please confirm if you finally get the Bluetooth pairing issue sorted.
 
1. To pair your iPhone and MacBook via Bluetooth, switch on the Wifi Hotspot as well as Bluetooth. If you have issues with signal strength between the devices, bring them closer together.

2. To edit spreadsheets on a iPhone, download Numbers. There are other options but I recommend Numbers since it's the closest I could get to Excel.

3. Documents can be stored on the phone and transferred via iTunes. If you don't want to use iTunes, then transfer the file from Numbers to Goodreader and from there you can use several methods to transfer it to your Macbook. You can also transfer the file directly from Numbers to DropBox and it will then be available immediately on your MacBook if you have DropBox setup correctly. If you don't have a DropBox account, use this link https://db.tt/VxCVWqAJ
Your will get an extra 500mb storage because of the referral and I will get the same. ;)

Just did as suggested. iPhone 5 and MBP are 5cm apart and still don't discover each other, but the MBP pick up the E63 easily, also the C3, but not the 5S. ………….. :confused:
 
Just did as suggested. iPhone 5 and MBP are 5cm apart and still don't discover each other, but the MBP pick up the E63 easily, also the C3, but not the 5S. ………….. :confused:

Strange. I tried it now with my MacBook Pro and iPhone 5S it worked fine. Only issue was ensuring that the WiFi hotspot was on together with Bluetooth.
 
Just did as suggested. iPhone 5 and MBP are 5cm apart and still don't discover each other, but the MBP pick up the E63 easily, also the C3, but not the 5S. ………….. :confused:

The iPhone 5 is about two months old, a bit less. It already is a warranty replacement for the one bought on 24 April of 2013. Can two of these fail in less than a year?? GPS also is haywire.

This is what I need connectivity for:

The need is for the user to have a laptop and a mobile phone to sync PIM data locally, not via the cloud/internet. PIM= Personal Information Manager such as Outlook, Evolution, EasyPIM, Entourage, etc. In this case, native Apple apps.

It needs to sync:

calendar
contacts
tasks/reminders
notes/memos

It needs to sync via:
Bluetooth
USB
Direct wireless connection
 
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