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Beyond the Gautrain
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capetownguy
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What honeymoon? its been like this for years.
1. PRASA had to commit to minimal upgrades pre World Cup to stations with very little money and make some attempt to establish its brand
2. Operators need to be replaced. Metrorail runs an inadequate amount of trains on what is arguably the busiest train line in the country i.e. Khayelitsha to Cape Town. Its time that they face competition.
3. new trains. Its not rocket science.
4. From 2010-2015 PRASA intends to focus on the major overhaul including new trains. But the reality is that they need funds to be committed and ringfenced.
The Gautrain is also important because it sets a new benchmark and standard. Not all trains need to be high speed, but good, clean, safe stations with new trains and a decent operator can be achieved.
1. PRASA had to commit to minimal upgrades pre World Cup to stations with very little money and make some attempt to establish its brand
2. Operators need to be replaced. Metrorail runs an inadequate amount of trains on what is arguably the busiest train line in the country i.e. Khayelitsha to Cape Town. Its time that they face competition.
3. new trains. Its not rocket science.
4. From 2010-2015 PRASA intends to focus on the major overhaul including new trains. But the reality is that they need funds to be committed and ringfenced.
The Gautrain is also important because it sets a new benchmark and standard. Not all trains need to be high speed, but good, clean, safe stations with new trains and a decent operator can be achieved.
capetownguy
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What honeymoon? its been like this for years.
1. PRASA had to commit to minimal upgrades pre World Cup to stations with very little money and make some attempt to establish its brand
2. Operators need to be replaced. Metrorail runs an inadequate amount of trains on what is arguably the busiest train line in the country i.e. Khayelitsha to Cape Town. Its time that they face competition.
3. new trains. Its not rocket science.
4. From 2010-2015 PRASA intends to focus on the major overhaul including new trains. But the reality is that they need funds to be committed and ringfenced.
The Gautrain is also important because it sets a new benchmark and standard. Not all trains need to be high speed, but good, clean, safe stations with new trains and a decent operator can be achieved.
1. PRASA had to commit to minimal upgrades pre World Cup to stations with very little money and make some attempt to establish its brand
2. Operators need to be replaced. Metrorail runs an inadequate amount of trains on what is arguably the busiest train line in the country i.e. Khayelitsha to Cape Town. Its time that they face competition.
3. new trains. Its not rocket science.
4. From 2010-2015 PRASA intends to focus on the major overhaul including new trains. But the reality is that they need funds to be committed and ringfenced.
The Gautrain is also important because it sets a new benchmark and standard. Not all trains need to be high speed, but good, clean, safe stations with new trains and a decent operator can be achieved.
I'm not sure either.. the World Cup good news reporting honeymoon?
The article was mostly about our long distance/freight rail, not really the Metrorail suburban services, even though they have some of the same problems. Difference is that you can't easily detect or fix some stolen equipment in the middle of nowhere whereas Metrorail can actually fix its problems quite easily.
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Well the problem IMO is Transnet.
Transnet is rife with corruption and mismanagement.
A organization that currently cannot account for a large % of its rolling stock is doomed to fail. Theft of railway equipment is also a huge problem. Vast tracts of railway lines are systematically disappearing.
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holding onto parcels of land that they have called "strategic" for over 20 years.
Fazda
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Other Pineapple Smurf
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Interesting that on many lines, the newest carriages where built in the late '70s.
I remember the railway system already going down in the late 80's - before the ANC comrades took over.
I remember the railway system already going down in the late 80's - before the ANC comrades took over.
Fazda
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Your point being?
That the railway system needed attention since before 1994, i.e. it's not solely the ANC's fault. Although now we should really start doing something about it.
Other Pineapple Smurf
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People should stop being so quick as to blame the collapse of all infrastructure on the ANC.
The honeymoon might be over soon, but the government is hoping to spend over R100 Billion on the rail networks over the coming decade - this will be the first major spending since the 70's.
Kosmik
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I disagree. It is soley the ANC's fault that the fault or any prior fault has not been fixed in 15 years.
Fazda
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I hope to win the Lotto too!
All the Govt departments are bankrupt - major money being pumped in to Eskom so there is nothing left for the railways.
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genetic
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Says who? BS statement prehaps? I suppose it's easier for you to blame government than to actually look at facts.
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/ar...ublic-private-investment-framework-2010-03-18
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&so...scHvBg&usg=AFQjCNH_YnXbpRu_WEuzSitOMrKbJFgSGw
Completely agree, people just post any random BS to "discredit" (not that they need help) the government. No secret here. As if Ricard actually knew anything about our fiscal situation wrt railways before posting that.
Kosmik
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All I'm saying is that the current government has been in power long enough to have done something about the rail system even if i was falling into disrepair before they were voted into power.
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It's easier to blame the past decades prior to you own slack management or in Africa's case the past centuries than blame your own failures of government today. That is all to hide the mass corruption as we will see unfold with the before and after" world cup money matters".
**Exactly!** They need to get their thumbs out their bums and their brains out of neutral and do something instead of making excuses for destructive savagery, mismanagement and corruption. A vain hope.