Blu-Ray gains ground

the pirate in me is interested. would i have to use all my local on Do3 to download one BD movie in full? and then do they make BD recorders? What is the cost and can I burn the structure to disc like I could with a downloaded DVD?
 
Blu-ray has won the high-definition optical media race and it is expected that sales will be even more impressive in 2009. Blu-ray enjoyed success in 2008 with more than 22 million titles sold - a 280% increase from 2007

So its gaining momentum.

For reference the same was discussed here in detail where Peter also went on the same trip.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=158994
 
xrapidx said:
Have you actually touched a bluray disk? I've reused my ps3 games over and over, and have bought quite a few 2nd/3rd/4th hand ones - I am yet to see a finger print or scratch on the disk.

I've also got a few of the same movies on Bluray and DVD, and I definitely notice the difference on a 46" LCD from about 3m away.
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I think you will realise there is a difference between 'notice the difference' and start to take benefit from or enjoy full benefits of. BD pundits (Sony, et al)
push through their BULL to sell tiny sets to people who think they are watching HD but at those distances they do not even need HD, probably not even 720P.

As said human eye won't resolve the extra pixels at 3m - 720p is good enough.
You need a bigger set for 1080p benefit at 3m.
 
I am Penguin said:
I get your point Uhggg! Peter is at it again. I wonder if he really have a blu ray player and/or HD tv. Cos' either his blind or just not with it. He starts of with BD and conveniantly repeat all his HD v SD and DRM cr@p again!



Yeah, eat your heart out. I thought you are Rockefeller because you have 3 Big screen HD TV's and a blu Ray disk player with tiltles that are not fully HD. Yet you cannot enjoy it. What Sound system or receiver do you have? Probably also do not use it! Just sell it man. Your PC too then you will not post cr@p off topic when you should discuss on topic the following.

Blu-Ray gains ground

Yeah Blu Ray as the only HD optical media is gaining ground and the reason are there is nothing to compete. Thanks to SONY. Yes thank you Sony!

DRM and the rest have nothing to do with this topic. That is a personal PeterCH gripe against SONY. His untruths about the HD screen is for another mental reason unknown to all of us as he believes its the wrong equipment for this crisis economic times. You can see the HD v SD differences for yourself at any Makro or Game or HiFi corp. OR loan the equipment for 6 days and take it back if you do not want it! :D I believe Peter bought int the HD ready cr@p and are very upset about it. :D

The links Peter refers to is very clear. Its rather pointing out where you must sit to enjoy the benefits of the higher resolution. You do not buy the TV for the lounge. You buy the BEST TV you can afford. Preferable Full HD rather than size and arrange the seating accordingly. That simple. If you do have a very small TV room then you can actually buy smaller and do not need to waste. Thats it. I will surely not buy a HD TV for the toilet or Shack. But from 40 inch up in full HD and proper sound system you will enjoy the benefits for real.

Many members here stated after the HD TV transmissions and even upscaling they never wants to go back to SD. The same with BD, those that bought wisely and set it up correctly stated they can never watch a normal DVD again. Then sound did not even feature here. Neither did the extras like BD live come into this discussion. WHY? PeterCH think you are a fool and are trying to convince everyone here not to buy into HDTV, HD DVD and Blu Ray, What his real agenda or gripe is everybody wonders. He is also dishing Windows7 for exactly the same reasons. That I think its mostly his personal anti DRM agenda.

Nuff said, Again.

Peter please FFS get back on topic! Leave economy and the rest out of this discussion. This discussion is that Blu Ray is gaining. That means its becoming more popular as people get to grips with the new standards in HD content that is available today.
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Ad hominem rubbish.

BTW I never gave you permission to call me "Peter", It's 'PeterCH', "I am Penguin".
 
xrapidx said:
I don't have a 3yr old - but if he does that to your DVD's, he's probably moved on to your LCD by now - so you won't have to worry about 1080p :D
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I have friends with 3yo's and DVDs in those hands are dead. BDs are more susceptible, yes I own Planet Earth and 3 other movies and those disks
are prone to scratching - just like DVDs or even CDs. The more dense the
me tracks the more damage a scratch or fingerprint will cause.

Just ask bwana, he has small kids too and backs up his movies for them.
 
I am Penguin said:
He cannot be convinced. Nobody knows what he sees? Maybe he needs new glasses or just a new forum. If he plonks all this posted junk on a HD DVD/Audio forum they will have his b@ls and dish it to the pigs. So he comes here to befuzzle those that do not know any better.

Just read between the lines. It all cames back to his DRM gripes and Region zoning. He "imports" all his DVD's why does he not just import a player from the same zone then. Pfft.
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LOL. I presented 3 links with scientific evidence, you present advertising.

Believe your ganja. ;)
 
PeterCH said:
I have friends with 3yo's and DVDs in those hands are dead. BDs are more susceptible, yes I own Planet Earth and 3 other movies and those disks
are prone to scratching - just like DVDs or even CDs. The more dense the
me tracks the more damage a scratch or fingerprint will cause.

Just ask bwana, he has small kids too and backs up his movies for them.
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Really? Those from Japan? :D
 
I am Penguin said:
Just see for yourself: Blu Ray is not a dying medium as some would like to believe! LOL

Blu-ray players to retail for as low as $150 in 2009

Panasonic researching, creating 3D Blu-ray products

More than 100 million BDs expected to be sold in 2009

Movie+Game BD combo discs coming this year

Blu-ray market penetration reaches record high
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LOL all advertising shill stuff.... of course these guys will say this, what else will they say "Factories closing and workers laid off but hey, our sales are up?" If that's the case how come they're all closing factories?

Never mind... BD isn't dead and no-one is arguing it. If you calmed down and actually read without getting all worked up like a child, you'd have seen I never said it was dying. I said the way BD is advertised borders on illegal or false advertising. You really need a BIG HD set to enjoy BD the way it's advertised. Yes it looks cute on a 24 inch LCD 30 cm from your face,
but most people want to sit 5-6 m away and for that they need BIG HDTVs.

If HDTVs in 60 inches and above become cheap, like R10K and below,
and BD players sell for R500, and each movie sells for R150 or less, and
I can order movies from around the world, and back up, I'll be happy. Less than that, it's ONLY HALF the product and it does HIGH DEFINITION a great INJUSTICE. LOL.
 
PeterCH said:
LOL. I presented 3 links with scientific evidence, you present advertising.

Believe your ganja. ;)
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Those links are not to disprove of or dish the HD BD DVD purchase and HD screens, like you want to present, they are there to assist people on how to set up their systems and what to buy. A 50-100" sreen will not do well in a shack, but a 40" would be fine maybr even a 32". You want to dish the concept claiming that a 40" LCD TV with HD will loaak the same with SD content. You are trying to mislead people.

BTW in case you did not read the topic. It says Blu Ray gains ground. My links show the reasons why. Your link and post again is off topic trying to flog your dead DRM horse by flogging the old HD TV rant you now posted a hundred times on this forum, :sick: at least the third or forth thread in three days. Actually your posts is copied and pasted from the one to the other threads. I am waiting for your economic crisis version of it in anticipation.
 
milomak said:
the pirate in me is interested. would i have to use all my local on Do3 to download one BD movie in full? and then do they make BD recorders? What is the cost and can I burn the structure to disc like I could with a downloaded DVD?
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may have been forgotten
 
OH my GAWD Here is the economic crisis rant as expected. ! LOL

PeterCH said:
LOL all advertising shill stuff.... of course these guys will say this, what else will they say "Factories closing and workers laid off but hey, our sales are up?" If that's the case how come they're all closing factories?
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Off topic!

PeterCH said:
Never mind... BD isn't dead and no-one is arguing it. If you calmed down and actually read without getting all worked up like a child, you'd have seen I never said it was dying.

I said the way BD is advertised borders on illegal or false advertising. You really need a BIG HD set to enjoy BD the way it's advertised. Yes it looks cute on a 24 inch LCD 30 cm from your face,
but most people want to sit 5-6 m away and for that they need BIG HDTVs.
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Off topic! But anyway. If people follow the advise in the links you gave and understand the principle then they can sit at the correct spot. No need for a 100" TV. LOL Depending what they want. No pont in dishing HD or Blu Ray for that.

PeterCH said:
If HDTVs in 60 inches and above become cheap, like R10K and below,
and BD players sell for R500, and each movie sells for R150 or less, and
I can order movies from around the world, and back up, I'll be happy. Less than that, it's ONLY HALF the product and it does HIGH DEFINITION a great INJUSTICE. LOL.
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So everyone will have to build/buy big houses to own a 60" TV so that it can be enjoyed in your view everything else is junk and lies.

So how to you think it will get so cheap if nobody buys it now? Hmmmm. Now what was first again, the chicken or egg?

If no one must buy now as you proclaim, then it will never become cheaper, in fact it will dissappear from the market and then all the factories close! LOL
 
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I am Penguin - Actually from reading your post above, are you saying that you can enjoy 1080p from a small screen?
 
I am Penguin said:
Those links are not to disprove of or dish the HD BD DVD purchase and HD screens, like you want to present, they are there to assist people on how to set up their systems and what to buy. A 50-100" sreen will not do well in a shack, but a 40" would be fine maybr even a 32". You want to dish the concept claiming that a 40" LCD TV with HD will loaak the same with SD content. You are trying to mislead people.

BTW in case you did not read the topic. It says Blu Ray gains ground. My links show the reasons why. Your link and post again is off topic trying to flog your dead DRM horse by flogging the old HD TV rant you now posted a hundred times on this forum, :sick: at least the third or forth thread in three days. Actually your posts is copied and pasted from the one to the other threads. I am waiting for your economic crisis version of it in anticipation.
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BD advertisers push the HIGH DEFINITION aspect of BD.
They say- at least in Look&Listen SONY Says "5x the resolution"
BUT TO ACTUALLY SEE THAT I WOULD NEED A 100 inch SCREEN
so they are not telling the whole truth - in fact it's false advertising.

BTW I am not trying anything. I've posted links where SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of HUMAN VISION is PRESENTED.

Again, the benefit of HD is to see SD quality imagery but on a huge screen - to get the HT look. It's not to look into little details on a tiny set - 24 inches with 10 cm from your
face but to sit in a comfy chair and watch a HUUUUUUUGE scene around you - almost like IMAX at home. That's what HD is about. And science proves to us to maximally benefit
(what the advertisers are pushing with "5x SD") from the 2 million pixels on the HD screen, you need to sit within 3 heights of the set. I did not make this up.

Now quit your ad hominem attacks, I'm tired of translating English into English for you.
 
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I am Penguin said:
Just see for yourself: Blu Ray is not a dying medium as some would like to believe! LOL
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Jeez, you really have lost the plot, haven't you? Where did any of us say it was a "dying medium"? We said it hasn't won the war yet, but will most likely continue to grow. What happens to it remains to be seen. None of us would mind owning one of them, if someone gave it to us for free. We're just not likely to rush out and buy one like you obviously did. Some of us don't jump on every new bandwagon that rolls into town... sometimes it puts you in the awkward position of having to defend your hasty actions. :rolleyes:
 
Garyvdh said:
Jeez, you really have lost the plot, haven't you? Where did any of us say it was a "dying medium"? We said it hasn't won the war yet, but will most likely continue to grow. What happens to it remains to be seen. None of us would mind owning one of them, if someone gave it to us for free. We're just not likely to rush out and buy one like you obviously did. Some of us don't jump on every new bandwagon that rolls into town... sometimes it puts you in the awkward position of having to defend your hasty actions. :rolleyes:
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I'm not sure what he's so worked up over. Ballmer and Stringer aren't loosing any sleep over this debate, although maybe if SONY goes down bad Stringer will be out of a job and Ballmer will just have to throw cheaper chairs around. ;)
 
Garyvdh said:
Jeez, you really have lost the plot, haven't you? Where did any of us say it was a "dying medium"? We said it hasn't won the war yet, but will most likely continue to grow. What happens to it remains to be seen. None of us would mind owning one of them, if someone gave it to us for free. We're just not likely to rush out and buy one like you obviously did. Some of us don't jump on every new bandwagon that rolls into town... sometimes it puts you in the awkward position of having to defend your hasty actions. :rolleyes:
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Now there you are wrong, It has won the format war for now. You proclamed there will be something else in say,... ten .....years? Obviously you were dead, gone or on holiday and did not follow the posts or rants on the forum with regards to BluRay. That was exactly that was stated. Google and you will find. Also that it will be short lived as it will be replaced "soon". We are still waiting! .


Anyway You are so wrong. I bought a PS3 because of the included Blu Ray. :D So I have to defend nothing, it was a clever buy, fits right into the whole family lifestyle. Thus I have first hand experience unlike some posting here. I just will not sit idle and read garbage promoted about HD and BluRAy just because some people have DRM agendas to drive.
 
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PeterCH said:
I'm not sure what he's so worked up over. Ballmer and Stringer aren't loosing any sleep over this debate, although maybe if SONY goes down bad Stringer will be out of a job and Ballmer will just have to throw cheaper chairs around. ;)
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So why do you actively repost the same rant over and over on every BluRay, HDTV, Windows7 and any thread related to anything remotely linked to DRM? Hmmmm.
 
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