Complications

I think men and women should be equal with regards to the law, employment and everything else, but its foolish to think we are the same. There are things that I can do that women could never do, or never do as well, and there are things that women can do that I could never do or never do as well. I dont think thats disrespectful to either sex, I think its just how it is.
 
Safferbeauty said:
No its not. I think he was frightened because I am a lady lol but I totally agree... :D Not many would, I dont think. I lot of women think men and women should be equal but they just can't be......
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Woman only want to be equal to men when it suits them so that's a moot point.

I think your statement about complicating things is not really fair as you usually don't decide one day yes I'm going to like this person it just happens. I was friends with a girl once and only after a year I realized I really like this girl in that way. We stuff around for a while and it didn't work out so I moved on.

The problem is liking someone is an emotion and it's impossible to control your emotions, you can only learn to control your actions that's triggered by said emotion.
 
I usually know if I will like someone as soon as I meet them. Its either there or it isnt. I've learned the hard way that, if the attraction is there, do something about it immediately. If you dont, as a guy you land up in the friend zone where you lust after her, be her "best friend", while she tells you about all the guys shes screwing and asks for your advice when they inevitably break her heart.
 
It's simple:

Women love drama
Men love *****

So if a guy makes a friend who might be of opposite gender (assuming he's not gay), chances are 96.53% that he wants to bone her... eventually that usually happens (note my comment on "Women" loving "drama") and then a whole complicated situation gets born and entirely smashed out of proportion ending up in tears and frustration and "WHY OH WHY!!" type questions/meanderings

Life is quite simple if you cut out the bull****. But where's the fun in that? ;)
 
AcidRaZor said:
It's simple:

Women love drama
Men love *****

So if a guy makes a friend who might be of opposite gender (assuming he's not gay), chances are 96.53% that he wants to bone her... eventually that usually happens (note my comment on "Women" loving "drama") and then a whole complicated situation gets born and entirely smashed out of proportion ending up in tears and frustration and "WHY OH WHY!!" type questions/meanderings

Life is quite simple if you cut out the bull****. But where's the fun in that? ;)
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Crap man I have a lot of chick friends I have no interest in "boning" if there is a chick I want to bone then I'm not going to be friends with her if I can't.
 
Ancalagon said:
Why would that offend you? Women are more emotional, usually, and men are more logical, usually. Women can still be logical and men can still be emotional, but its not the norm.
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Something I find quite funny about this statement and the topic at hand is that in this case men are far more emotional. A woman can logically separate her attraction for you and the need to rather be friends and just stick your ass in the friend zone. Its a decision that, although may have some emotional influence (Not that attracted to you anyway), shines with rational undertones. ie you are a nice guy, worthy of being associated with her, but dont have the social or physical status she is looking for in a potential mate. Whereas a guy's apparent lack of capability in making the same separation shows that his emotions are stronger than his rational mind in this regard. ie the need to spread his seed.

A guy will have to separate himself from the girl altogether as forcing that transition to friend is much harder for the guy to manage. Dont get me wrong, I still think that Men are far more logical and Women are far more emotional by nature. I just thought it an interesting observation on this topic.
 
I think women often make the mistake of thinking men are less emotional, this is not the case, however men definately do not easily show or display their emotions, instead they internalise and react more rational, whereas women are 'hijacked' by their emotions, show it readily and deal with it more externally (cry, discuss with friends, dwell on the tiniest issues, dissect and so on)

I love the differenceness of the men around me, I love the contrast between the male and female mind. I have been fortunate to have raised both a male and female (both now adults) and have come to respect this natural contrast between the male and female mind.
 
SoulTax said:
Something I find quite funny about this statement and the topic at hand is that in this case men are far more emotional. A woman can logically separate her attraction for you and the need to rather be friends and just stick your ass in the friend zone. Its a decision that, although may have some emotional influence (Not that attracted to you anyway), shines with rational undertones. ie you are a nice guy, worthy of being associated with her, but dont have the social or physical status she is looking for in a potential mate. Whereas a guy's apparent lack of capability in making the same separation shows that his emotions are stronger than his rational mind in this regard. ie the need to spread his seed.

A guy will have to separate himself from the girl altogether as forcing that transition to friend is much harder for the guy to manage. Dont get me wrong, I still think that Men are far more logical and Women are far more emotional by nature. I just thought it an interesting observation on this topic.
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if she doesnt want to bone you, then she isnt attracted to you. Quite simple, same as guys. Its not that she can separate them, its that there isnt anything to separate. The reason why women dont want to bone their male friends is that most of the guys who develop crushes on women dont display very masculine behaviour. They dont display the confidence that a girl wants a guy to have, so the women in question wont be attracted to them.

wrathex said:
I think women often make the mistake of thinking men are less emotional, this is not the case, however men definately do not easily show or display their emotions, instead they internalise and react more rational, whereas women are 'hijacked' by their emotions, show it readily and deal with it more externally (cry, discuss with friends, dwell on the tiniest issues, dissect and so on)

I love the differenceness of the men around me, I love the contrast between the male and female mind. I have been fortunate to have raised both a male and female (both now adults) and have come to respect this natural contrast between the male and female mind.
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I think men deal with their emotions differently - you might say we approach them logically so they dont affect us as much. We dont see a need to talk about them with other people most of the time.
 
Ancalagon said:
I think men and women should be equal with regards to the law, employment and everything else, but its foolish to think we are the same. There are things that I can do that women could never do, or never do as well, and there are things that women can do that I could never do or never do as well. I dont think thats disrespectful to either sex, I think its just how it is.
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give us some examples of these things you can do that women could never do...
 
Ancalagon said:
I think men deal with their emotions differently - you might say we approach them logically so they dont affect us as much. We dont see a need to talk about them with other people most of the time.
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There are definitely inherent differences between men and womens emotional responses but I think a lot of gender stereotypes are the result of social conditioning. As youngsters mens emotional displays are met with increasing disapproval until we are uncomfortable even feeling most emotions.

Being unemotional and logical are useful survival traits and are seen as attractive in men so we are encouraged to only display those traits to the exclusion of all others.
The problem is that, while being logical and unemotional, are useful traits they aren't the only traits that are necessary for a balanced psyche.

Men have become caricatures of manhood or at least most men of a certain age and older have.

Women on the other hand are allowed (if not encouraged) to show emotions and , these days, also encouraged to be logical and unemotional when required.
 
TheGuy said:
That's the problem I have a 100 chick friends at work I have no romantic interest in. My problem is getting to know them in bars.
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....there you go again. Stop trying to pick up feathered creatures in bars.
 
TheGuy said:
That's the problem I have a 100 chick friends at work I have no romantic interest in. My problem is getting to know them in bars.
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Either they're all dogs (unlikely) or you're suppressing your attraction. There's no way you can have even 10 female friends and not be attracted to at least one and more likely 6 or 7.
 
satanboy said:
men and women are the same...

individuals differ on both sides

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I disagree. We have mountains of social conditioning that make us approach the world in very different ways.

Our brains and endocrine systems are also different at a physiological level. If that doesn't make us approach events differently then I don't know what will.

Also some people are scorpios :p
 
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