Cricket: International Discussion Thread

Creag said:
Rory Burns - last five Tests:
4
10
0
6
33
0
0
25 (last)
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He has the absolute worst technique ever. Might make a ton of runs at county level, but he's not international material unless he fundamentally changes his technique. Look at what the Mighty Hash did.
 
JohnStarr said:
He has the absolute worst technique ever. Might make a ton of runs at county level, but he's not international material unless he fundamentally changes his technique. Look at what the Mighty Hash did.
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A question in ignorance; is not more of a limited-overs player, a more aggressive temperament?
 
Creag said:
A question in ignorance; is not more of a limited-overs player, a more aggressive temperament?
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No, his technique is fundamentally flawed. His bat swings out, and he's head points 1 way whilst his eyes are looking at the bowler. Then it twirls all over the show before coming into line.
International bowlers work out batsmen incredibly fast nowadays.
I said the same thing to a friend when I saw the guy bat in SA and he never scored in the games he managed to play. This isn't an Adam Gilchrist leftie batting at an ODI rate in a test. He's all over the show and it's showing up in his test runs.
They need to find someone else.
 
JohnStarr said:
No, his technique is fundamentally flawed. His bat swings out, and he's head points 1 way whilst his eyes are looking at the bowler. Then it twirls all over the show before coming into line.
International bowlers work out batsmen incredibly fast nowadays.
I said the same thing to a friend when I saw the guy bat in SA and he never scored in the games he managed to play. This isn't an Adam Gilchrist leftie batting at an ODI rate in a test. He's all over the show and it's showing up in his test runs.
They need to find someone else.
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It's only when a player is off form does his technique come into question.
If Steve Smith was getting a string of low scores what's the first thing do you they'll analyse, and Smith looks awfully inept at the crease.

Hash never really changed that signature bat lift to the covers.
 
Dan C said:
England got a hiding... sjoe !
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Hammered. The pitch may not have been the best, but India managed two decent innings. Ashwin also got a decent century. Some of the moans about the pitch seem a little one-sided.
 
Creag said:
Hammered. The pitch may not have been the best, but India managed two decent innings. Ashwin also got a decent century. Some of the moans about the pitch seem a little one-sided.
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Ashwin showed that you CAN bat on that pitch hey...

How much of a monster team is India... they can compete anywhere in the world...
 
Creag said:
Hammered. The pitch may not have been the best, but India managed two decent innings. Ashwin also got a decent century. Some of the moans about the pitch seem a little one-sided.
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I like the idea of the visiting team getting to decide whether to bat or bowl first. Think it would have made this a closer match if England got first crack at batting.

Then again the toss is such an age-old tradition and adds that element of surprise \ anticipation early on day 1.
 
Neoprod said:
I like the idea of the visiting team getting to decide whether to bat or bowl first. Think it would have made this a closer match if England got first crack at batting.

Then again the toss is such an age-old tradition and adds that element of surprise \ anticipation early on day 1.
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I have mixed feelings about this. It is an age-old tradition and it adds an element of spice. But if the visiting team does get to decide to bat or field first, it does ensure that the pitch isn't too heavily slanted. Interesting debate.
 
What the India win means for the WTC final scenarios:
  • India: needs to win the Test series (by any margin), so either two wins or a win and a draw will do it. India is out of contention if they lose any of the remaining Tests, as then the best they can do is draw the series.
  • England: must win both remaining Tests. Any draw or loss, and England is out of contention.
  • Australia: will be hoping for a drawn series or a 2-1 England series win.
Effectively, one of England or India will be out of contention for the remaining final spot after the third Test.
 
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WaxLyrical said:
It's only when a player is off form does his technique come into question.
If Steve Smith was getting a string of low scores what's the first thing do you they'll analyse, and Smith looks awfully inept at the crease.

Hash never really changed that signature bat lift to the covers.
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He did change it in fact. Where his bat used to come up towards the wickie and then swivel around to face the bowler, it eventually just came up and to 1st slip which is the textbook backlift.
Burns's technique is just wrong. Might work for him in county cricket which is OK, but not at international level where his average now hovers around 30-31.
 
Not bad for a guy who struggles to make the SA team.

www.espncricinfo.com

Royals land Morris for INR 16.25 crore; RCB spend big on Maxwell and Jamieson

The South Africa allrounder became the most expensive overseas player ever at the auction
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Chris Morris, the South African allrounder, became the IPL's most expensive overseas player ever signed at an auction after he was picked up by Rajasthan Royals for Rs 16.25 crore ($2.2 million). Morris was at the centre of a fierce bidding war involving four different teams, with the Royals eventually beating out Royal Challengers Bangalore, Mumbai Indians and Punjab Kings to sign the player. Morris had previously played for the Royals during the 2015 season and was the team's joint-highest wicket-taker that year with 13 scalps.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...ell-is-there-another-chapter-to-write-1252083
Morris overtook Yuvraj Singh (Rs 16 crore in 2015), Pat Cummins (Rs 15.5 crore in 2020) and Ben Stokes (Rs 14.5 crore in 2017) as the costliest buy at an IPL auction, but the Royals believe it was money well spent.

"We did due diligence, he's an ex-Royal who can deal with a price tag like that," Jake Lush McCrum, the Royals CEO, said. " He is a quality bowler through all phases of the game, can win us games with the bat too. We did stretch, that was our last bid, luckily Kings XI held back. Delighted to have him back with the Royals."
 
So the Mumbai Indians bought Marco Jansen! Two okes from Klerksdorp in the auction, and the other one went unsold.
 
Wellington win the NZ domestic T20 Super Smash series, South African born New Zealander Devon Conway with MotM award for his 93(63)*.... he's been a dominant force in NZ domestic cricket over the last 2 to 3 seasons!!
 
Some live international cricket this morning. New Zealand vs Australia. The first T20 from Christchurch

Australia won the toss and opted to bowl

Australia (Playing XI): Aaron Finch(c), Matthew Wade(w), Josh Philippe, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis, Mitchell Marsh, Daniel Sams, Ashton Agar, Jhye Richardson, Kane Richardson, Adam Zampa


New Zealand (Playing XI): Martin Guptill, Tim Seifert(w), Kane Williamson(c), Devon Conway, Glenn Phillips, James Neesham, Mitchell Santner, Kyle Jamieson, Tim Southee, Ish Sodhi, Trent Boult
 
Going to be interesting to see how the SA born Conway and Phillips fair... Conway in early with NZ 11-2 (2.2)
 
NZ's two big guns fail to fire. Guptill and Williamson out cheaply. NZ 19/3
 
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