CRICKET SA vs England

[WonderBob]

Just thought I would post a update (no bragging)

We bowled the Bang A team out for 121 with Ntini taking 4, Nel 3, Zondeki 1 and Harris 2 wickets.

Duminy and Kallis opened the 2nd innigs and Duminy was out LBW for 1. Kallis and De Villiers batting now.

Depending on how Nel bowled I guess its safe to say he will replace Steyn for the 3rd test.

 

[WonderBob]

AKAIK tour matches aren't supposed to have 1st class status anymore.
U can use 12 players - 11 on field only.
And a few other changes.

Just for warmup....

Usually yes, but this one is a first class game. Only 11 playing, and the only condition is a mandatory declaration after 100 overs.

 

[Ou grote]

Fast bowler Steve Harmison was recalled to the England squad on Saturday for the third test against South Africa which starts at Edgbaston on Wednesday.

He hasn't done much harm to us before, but hopefully for him, he can bowl straight now.

 

[Ou grote]

Arthur: Poor opposition fine
27/07/2008 22:01 - (SA)


Worcester, England - The standard of the opposition was poor, but coach Mickey Arthur is satisfied that the South African cricket team have benefited from their three-day match here against Bangladesh A.

Jacques Kallis, Makhaya Ntini and André Nel enjoyed valuable match practice even though the Proteas never moved out of second gear in the match that ended in a draw on Sunday.

"Nella and Makhaya bowled extremely well and it was good to see Jacques play two extended innings," Arthur said on Sunday evening.

The South Africans declared at 328/4 on Sunday after AB de Villiers and Robin Peterson had scored centuries.

The Bangladesh side, bowled out for 121 in their first innings, had reached 97/2 in their second knock by the end of the final day.

De Villiers and Peterson batted well against bowling that would have made club players blush, even though Bangladesh fielded six members of their Test team.

The Bangladeshis are scheduled to tour Australia and South Africa later this year and they will be hoping that Test cricket will motivate their players to do better.

Kept up the fine bowling

Nel and Ntini had a ball on Saturday after the batsmen had had their turn on the opening day.

Nel, who is likely to replace the injured Dale Steyn as new-ball bowler when the third Test against England starts on Wednesday, took a wicket in his first over and finished with 3/25.

Ntini kept up the fine bowling he had produced in the second Test, running in hard, bowling fast and taking 4/32.

There was another fright for the South Africans when Kallis damaged a ligament in the ring finger of his left hand on Saturday.

He was rushed to hospital to have X-rays taken but returned to bat for more than two hours.

Kallis did not carry on batting on Sunday, but that was to present the other batsman with an opportunity to spend some time at the crease. He also fielded in the slips when Bangladesh A batted, removing all doubt about his availability.

 

[Stephen]

According to Cricinfo re English team

Harmison wont be playing, Sidebottom in place of poor Pattison and Collingwood in place of Broad.

 

[chiskop]

So much for England's McGrath Great batsman, pity about his bowling.

So what has Collingwood done in the last two weeks that he wasn't good enough for the second test, but is good enough for the third? More confused selection, if you ask me.

 

[Ou grote]

So much for England's McGrath Great batsman, pity about his bowling.

So what has Collingwood done in the last two weeks that he wasn't good enough for the second test, but is good enough for the third? More confused selection, if you ask me.

Excellent questions there.
Me is

 

[WonderBob]

Excellent questions there.
Me is

I think its more a case of someone else (Broad in this case) doing more wrong than Collingwood. Not necessarily Collingwood doing anything right. And they want to strengthen their batting I guess.

 

[Ou grote]

I think its more a case of someone else (Broad in this case) doing more wrong than Collingwood. Not necessarily Collingwood doing anything right. And they want to strengthen their batting I guess.

i.e. They're like headless chickens after nearly winning one game and then losing one.

Looking forward this game, it shall be good.

 

[chiskop]

I think its more a case of someone else (Broad in this case) doing more wrong than Collingwood. Not necessarily Collingwood doing anything right. And they want to strengthen their batting I guess.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure Collingwood is a great pick to beef up their batting line up.

Test matches this year: (Matches / Innings / Aggregate / HS / Ave)
Collingwood: 7 11 283 66 28.30
Broad: 7 10 369 76 46.12

 

[WonderBob]

I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure Collingwood is a great pick to beef up their batting line up.

Test matches this year: (Matches / Innings / Aggregate / HS / Ave)
Collingwood: 7 11 283 66 28.30
Broad: 7 10 369 76 46.12

Yes, exactly, never said Collingwood playing is a good thing

But he is a good batsmen though, and will come good at some stage, lets hope its not in the next game!

 

[WonderBob]

I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure Collingwood is a great pick to beef up their batting line up.

Test matches this year: (Matches / Innings / Aggregate / HS / Ave)
Collingwood: 7 11 283 66 28.30
Broad: 7 10 369 76 46.12

And also, Broad's batting should not keep him in the team. He plays as a bowler that can bat a bit (more than a just a bit lately). He was the worse of the bowlers though, and that's probably why he goes.

 

[chiskop]

WonderBob, we're in complete agreement about both Collingwood and Broad.

Let's face it, Steyn breaks down and we're able to bring in an experienced (though maybe ridiculous) test bowler as a replacement. England are in a situation where they have to drop one of their best batsmen (on current form) and replace him with someone who hasn't been able to buy a run, in order to strengthen their batting.

I do hope that Broad can sort out his bowling, it is great to watch a number nine bat like that.

But, ahh, the long wait between games is almost over. Cricket tomorrow!

 

[Ou grote]

And also, Broad's batting should not keep him in the team. He plays as a bowler that can bat a bit (more than a just a bit lately). He was the worse of the bowlers though, and that's probably why he goes.

After watching his last innings, I'd say no need for Collingwood.
6 Broad
7 Flintoff
8 Ambrose
9 Sidebottom / Adams
10 Harmison
11 Panesar

 

[Gerhardt]

what does the schedule look like over next few months??

 

[chiskop]

After watching his last innings, I'd say no need for Collingwood.
6 Broad
7 Flintoff
8 Ambrose
9 Sidebottom / Adams
10 Harmison
11 Panesar

Who's Adams? Do you mean Anderson?

Would Broad be in the team as a batsman, a bowler or an all-rounder? IMO, his bowling just doesn't warrant his selection at the moment.

I would replace Ambrose with Prior, and bat him at six.

Harmison? Got no time for that useless guy. i think he has successfully, repeatedly, proved that he doesn't really put playing for England that high on his list of priorities.

If I was an England selector, (thanks god, I'm not):

Strauss
Cook
Vaughan (I spose)
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood (replaced by Broad, as soon as he can learn to bowl)
Prior
Flintoff
Anderson
Sidearse
Panesar

 

[Ou grote]

what does the schedule look like over next few months??

U can get them on www.cricinfo.com
U can also import them to Outlook iCal, etc.

Who's Adams? Do you mean Anderson?

Would Broad be in the team as a batsman, a bowler or an all-rounder? IMO, his bowling just doesn't warrant his selection at the moment.

I would replace Ambrose with Prior, and bat him at six.

Harmison? Got no time for that useless guy. i think he has successfully, repeatedly, proved that he doesn't really put playing for England that high on his list of priorities.

If I was an England selector, (thanks god, I'm not):

Strauss
Cook
Vaughan (I spose)
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood (replaced by Broad, as soon as he can learn to bowl)
Prior
Flintoff
Anderson
Sidearse
Panesar

Yeah they have some problems
Also got Jones and Hoggard to pick.

Surprised they haven't recalled Gatting or Gooch.

 

[chiskop]

..or Boycott's grandmother!

 

[WonderBob]

what does the schedule look like over next few months??

on icc-cricket.com you can get a PDF with the full schedule for the next 5 years or so.

 

[WonderBob]

Who's Adams? Do you mean Anderson?

Would Broad be in the team as a batsman, a bowler or an all-rounder? IMO, his bowling just doesn't warrant his selection at the moment.

I would replace Ambrose with Prior, and bat him at six.

Harmison? Got no time for that useless guy. i think he has successfully, repeatedly, proved that he doesn't really put playing for England that high on his list of priorities.

If I was an England selector, (thanks god, I'm not):

Strauss
Cook
Vaughan (I spose)
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood (replaced by Broad, as soon as he can learn to bowl)
Prior
Flintoff
Anderson
Sidearse
Panesar

Thats probably their best team at the moment. Not sure what Harmison did back in the squad if they not going to play him anyway.

Its suppose to swing at Edgebaston, and with Steyn being our only geniune swing bowler I'm a bit nervous to see use bowl. Cant wait to see Morkel opening the bowling though. And hope that Ntini steps up.