Current Affairs section bans

R13... said:
Gary is not a moderator he just has permission to clean up threads and post news. Remember you can post your own news to counter him. Plus the permissions he has were granted after an open nomination process. He's just the most active of the people granted those permissions and the initiative was due to members complaining about how the sapa news articles were selected.
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Really, it says he's a moderator on the current affairs section
 
Boris Becker said:
If garyvdh's feelings were hurt by my post, that part could have been deleted, as is normally the case. Entire posts should not been deleted.
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You are so missing the point here - It's not about people's feeling getting hurt. It's about how you present yourself, and your case. Further, it is not the job of the moderators to clean up after people who can't control themselves. To reiterate, it's not your opinion that is the issue here, it's your attitude and assumption of being targeted for having that opinion. Your loop of outrage is pointless and counter-productive. How can you not see that?
 
copacetic said:
What you are not getting it is not about your opinion, it's about your delivery.

"I think Gary is biased" is a very different comment to "His posts are hateful and biased, it's pathetic".
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Good post. To add to that, objectifying the the content is one thing, but to pose an argument with manners, good structure, logic and resources makes for a much more credible read.
 
Boris Becker said:
You should have read the thread fully. I said hateful postings against Muslims, Blacks and religious people are tolerated and encouraged on mybb.

And now it's been deleted. Post something critical of mybb, it gets deleted
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Cry me a baby or get a life. If your posts were deleted I am glad I missed them as it must have been junk status.
 
Not going to bother responding when my posts are being deleted. I'll wait and see what else gets deleted
 
Boris Becker said:
Not going to bother responding when my posts are being deleted. I'll wait and see what else gets deleted
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I have a proposition for you - How about you take aboard some of the advice you've been provided, and whether you believe it or not, act on some of the suggestions? Then attempt a couple of sober, polite and reasonable posts, and see what happens. You may be pleasantly surprised at the result.
 
copacetic said:
What you are not getting is that it is not about your opinion, it's about your delivery.

"I think Gary is biased" is a very different comment to "His posts are hateful and biased, it's pathetic".

As I mentioned earlier - You can have any opinion you want on this site - I have certainly always been able to have my say with no issues whatsoever. Having read a handful of your posts just recently, I can say quite honestly that the problem here is largely to do with your attitude, delivery and conspiracy theories about bias and censorship. I don't know if you are aware of my position on such matters, but suffice to say, I don't support censorship in any form (aside from what is unfortunately necessary to keep such a large forum in check, and I feel the mods and owners here, do a great job most of the time. We, as users, also tend to let them know quite vocally if we feel they are doing wrong).

Also, regarding MyBB being a wellspring of racism, etc, as you per your accusation... Well, not that I agree, but you do realise, I'm sure, that you can't have the freedom of expression you expect (demand?), without the existence of material that you object to.
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TL;DR - it's not what you say it's the way you say it.
 
copacetic said:
I have a proposition for you - How about you take aboard some of the advice you've been provided, and whether you believe it or not, act on some of the suggestions? Then attempt a couple of sober, polite and reasonable posts, and see what happens. You may be pleasantly surprised at the result.
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Well my first post questioned if a known bigot and racist was not banned, how could there be credibility in the process. That's an honest question. We all know that person. The question was not answered. I only got insults
 
On the one hand, you say there isn't rampant racism and hatred against certain groups and the other you say the site has done a lot to clean up. Which is it?
 
Boris Becker said:
Well my first post questioned if a known bigot and racist was not banned, how could there be credibility in the process. That's an honest question. We all know that person. The question was not answered. I only got insults
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That is exactly what copa and bwana are trying to tell you, it's in the delivery.

If you have an issue, PM the mods and if they do not answer to your satisfaction then escalate it to rpm. But to accuse a specific member of being a bigot or a racist in a thread is going to end up with you being castigated instead.

If you have an issue with a post, use the RBP process.
 
Boris Becker said:
Well my first post questioned if a known bigot and racist was not banned, how could there be credibility in the process. That's an honest question. We all know that person. The question was not answered. I only got insults
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If you're talking about marine1, I believe I directed a question at you in that regard (although if it was in this thread, it's been deleted). Anyway, my question was whether Marine1's alleged bigoted and racist statements were general, or directed at members of the forum. In the answer to that, again, is part of the point I'm trying to make.

I disagree with much of what marine1 has to say, by the way. But I don't make the mistake of thinking he's a racist, or a bigot. As far as I can gather, he's a cool dude with strong opinions, like most of us. And even though we might disagree, it doesn't stop us from engaging quite reasonably with one another.
 
MickeyD said:
That is exactly what copa and bwana are trying to tell you, it's in the delivery.

If you have an issue, PM the mods and if they do not answer to your satisfaction then escalate it to rpm. But to accuse a specific member of being a bigot or a racist in a thread is going to end up with you being castigated instead.

If you have an issue with a post, use the RBP process.
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In case you didn't know, this was tried by many. Read the threads (if they haven't been deleted)
 
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