Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 215 81.1%

  • No

    Votes: 50 18.9%
  • Total voters
    265
RedViking said:
You have to imagine it, not understand it. :)
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This makes even less sense than his post.

manicminer said:
My point is there is life all around us. How exactly does funding inter planetary exploration make us better as a race?
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I didn't say it did. I just pointed out that branding it a 'futile exercise in speculation' is untrue, given that (at least partially), the notion is a driving force for the progress of various technologies and has numerous philosophical ramifications for our species.

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Absolutely. Life is inevitable rather than an anomalous outcome.

The very fact that we exist means that life is possible in the universe. It's complete arrogance to think life only exists here on earth.

Arguably, the first baby born on mars will be an alien. We should stop thinking so small.
 
manicminer said:
My point is there is life all around us. How exactly does funding inter planetary exploration make us better as a race?
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Well... For starters if we don't figure a way off this rock and spread our civilization to a few other planets we might end up as no race at all if the earth ceases to exist/sustain carbon based life forms.
 
OCP said:
Well... For starters if we don't figure a way off this rock and spread our civilization to a few other planets we might end up as no race at all if the earth ceases to exist/sustain carbon based life forms.
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How about going back to basics and offering free birth control to poor populations? And quit telling people sex has no consequences lol.
 
manicminer said:
How about going back to basics and offering free birth control to poor populations?
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While I agree with the completely unrelated discussion about birth control, I do not see how that would avert the eradication of the human race in case earth is taken out by an asteroid?
 
OCP said:
While I agree with the completely unrelated discussion about birth control, I do not see how that would avert the eradication of the human race in case earth is taken out by an asteroid?
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Ah yes... a giant pinball machine flipper will do that just fine. I recall a retro video game to that effect - wish I could find it :D

But what makes you think Mars isn't the planet that's going to take the hit? And besides, you're going to find out what's on 'the other side' within your lifetime... not the next generation of the next thousand or even million years... literally within your own lifetime. One would think we'd be a little more concerned with that fact than 'what if the earth is hit by an asteroid'.
 
manicminer said:
Ah yes... a giant pinball machine flipper will do that just fine. I recall a retro video game to that effect - wish I could find it :D

But what makes you think Mars isn't the planet that's going to take the hit? And besides, you're going to find out what's on 'the other side' within your lifetime... not the next generation of the next thousand or even million years... literally within your own lifetime. One would think we'd be a little more concerned with that fact than 'what if the earth is hit by an asteroid'.
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I don't - that is for far cleverer (and qualified) people to figure out.

What I do understand with my limited brain capacity is that having humans on 2 or more planets would give us a greater chance of survival then only 1.

There are a lot of things I will not get to see in my lifetime and maybe we as a human race will never make it to the stars ... but I would like to think we do and my children's children may very well be the first to stand and make a life an a different planet :-)
 
copacetic said:
I didn't say it did. I just pointed out that branding it a 'futile exercise in speculation' is untrue, given that (at least partially), the notion is a driving force for the progress of various technologies and has numerous philosophical ramifications for our species.
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I wouldn't call the statement untrue when it in itself is opinion based and speculative. Speculation is what we do in the absence of facts. I maintain it's a futile exercise based on my opinon.
 
OCP said:
I don't - that is for far cleverer (and qualified) people to figure out.

What I do understand with my limited brain capacity is that having humans on 2 or more planets would give us a greater chance of survival then only 1.
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And yet we die. All of us. Within our own lifetime. I'm all for saving the human race, but I'm also realistic and think we need to clean up our own back yard before we pollute the rest of the galaxy.

There are a lot of things I will not get to see in my lifetime and maybe we as a human race will never make it to the stars ... but I would like to think we do and my children's children may very well be the first to stand and make a life an a different planet :-)
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Possibly... I just find it hard to justify throwing the amount of resources at it that it requires while the desperate and needy on this planet die in squalor... or while we can't even apply our minds to solving plastic pollution... I'm more an advocate for what's in front of our noses.
 
manicminer said:
And yet we die. All of us. Within our own lifetime. I'm all for saving the human race, but I'm also realistic and think we need to clean up our own back yard before we pollute the rest of the galaxy.

Possibly... I just find it hard to justify throwing the amount of resources at it that it requires while the desperate and needy on this planet die in squalor... or while we can't even apply our minds to solving plastic pollution... I'm more an advocate for what's in front of our noses.
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We can do both ;-)

Just imagine all governments divert all their military budgets to science so we can eradicate cancer, develop alternative power sources to provide free energy to the world and finally once and for all figure out which way the toilet roll is suppose to hang!
 
OCP said:
While I agree with the completely unrelated discussion about birth control, I do not see how that would avert the eradication of the human race in case earth is taken out by an asteroid?
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The last thing we have to fear is an asteroid like the Deep Impact fiction. If there is something that will destroy this planet it is us, the humans on it. So having another so called planet with humans will not help. Thank goodness we are alone in the universe and there are no other planets with 'intelligent life' on it.
 
OCP said:
We can do both ;-)
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Possibly but I do think we're losing the home front battle big time.

Just imagine all governments divert all their military budgets to science so we can eradicate cancer, develop alternative power sources to provide free energy to the world and finally once and for all figure out which way the toilet roll is suppose to hang!
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Pipe dream right now given the population size and the sheer number of people with serious personal issues IMO. Personally I'm more concerned that the bog roll is there after the deed, it's when it isn't that I panic :p
 
RedViking said:
The last thing we have to fear is an asteroid like the Deep Impact fiction. If there is something that will destroy this planet it is us, the humans on it. So having another so called planet with humans will not help. Thank goodness we are alone in the universe and there are no other planets with 'intelligent life' on it.
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Thats what the dinosaurs said:whistle:

Meanwhile we plough through he taurid meteor stream twice a year, lighting the night skies with wishes... only a matter of time before we get a 'larger' than average ones coming to play;)
 
Temujin said:
Thats what the dinosaurs said:whistle:

Meanwhile we plough through he taurid meteor stream twice a year, lighting the night skies with wishes... only a matter of time before we get a 'larger' than average ones coming to play;)
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Nope, it was a rock that spoke to the scientist and gave them the information layer by layer....

Oh, here is a photo of the evidence. 350_K-T-boundary_rock.png
 
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