Documentaries

I read Bruce Dickinson's book What Does this Button Do, and the story of how they played an concert in a locked-down war zone

Read the book too a few years ago, this concert was in Sarajevo, Bosnia wasn't it?

Bought the book at a book signing event, got to shake Bruce's hand and have quick chat.

A South African dude, Kevin Shirley used to be their producer.
 

Started watching last night, the fact that people look up to some of these influencers is beyond me.
 
...the fact that people look up to some of these influencers is beyond me.
Nuts isn't it? I think it speaks to how Gen Zs and younger (the social media generations) are very much disconnected from reality and lack a real sense of identity and purpose in life.

This is an interesting watch too along the same lines as Manosphere.
 

Started watching last night, the fact that people look up to some of these influencers is beyond me.
Nuts isn't it? I think it speaks to how Gen Zs and younger (the social media generations) are very much disconnected from reality and lack a real sense of identity and purpose in life.

This is an interesting watch too along the same lines as Manosphere.
To be fair they are just grifters running the current grift, people like that have been around since the beginning of time.
Albeit they have a lot more reach now with the internet but the basic premise and modus operandi is the same.
 

That seems pretty dubious
Hmm - maybe I'm not interested in this doc after all.

 
Funny that the first dude that appears in the clip, when you google him, was on the run from the law and was recently arrested.


Yeah crazy, finished watching this weekend. A lot of these influancers are driven/managed by their parents, either due to past trauma or they are in on the whole thing guiding them.
 

Started watching last night, the fact that people look up to some of these influencers is beyond me.

Nuts isn't it? I think it speaks to how Gen Zs and younger (the social media generations) are very much disconnected from reality and lack a real sense of identity and purpose in life.

This is an interesting watch too along the same lines as Manosphere.

To be fair they are just grifters running the current grift, people like that have been around since the beginning of time.
Albeit they have a lot more reach now with the internet but the basic premise and modus operandi is the same.
So I watched the documentary, the only person I recognised from the Manosphere was Myron mainly due to his clips going viral.

Louis is dishonest.

Background: I think in 2019, I came across the term Incel here on one of the mybb threads. Had no idea what it meant. Did a lot of research. IMHO: Mainstream media villianised them without even bothering to understand these young men and teenage boys gripes/issues.

The manosphere is as broad as men interests, hence there is no central theme of manosphere.

Louis concentrated on what appears to be grifters and PUAs. This is my takeaway just from the documentary.

Problem is that mainstream media appears to use the term manosphere term to describe nearly any male youtuber/content creator thats offers advice to young men, especially where some content is about women.

I do acknowledge that there are content creators that focussed exclusively on women bad behaviour as reason men should not date/marry/enter into a relationship, but there are very few that spew hatred of women.

Then are many content creators that focussed on some aspect of men improving themselves whether it is financial, health, fitness etc.

Very few content creators actually focussed on drumming up hatred against women.

So the documentary falls short in my opinion as it not objective of the manosphere but seems to be a hit piece.

I did some searching and some of the content creators have fired back with their own rebuttals and longer videos apperently showing how Louis editted the video. Have not watched these videos. Probably have a look this weekend.
 
So I watched the documentary, the only person I recognised from the Manosphere was Myron mainly due to his clips going viral.

Louis is dishonest.

Background: I think in 2019, I came across the term Incel here on one of the mybb threads. Had no idea what it meant. Did a lot of research. IMHO: Mainstream media villianised them without even bothering to understand these young men and teenage boys gripes/issues.

The manosphere is as broad as men interests, hence there is no central theme of manosphere.

Louis concentrated on what appears to be grifters and PUAs. This is my takeaway just from the documentary.

Problem is that mainstream media appears to use the term manosphere term to describe nearly any male youtuber/content creator thats offers advice to young men, especially where some content is about women.

I do acknowledge that there are content creators that focussed exclusively on women bad behaviour as reason men should not date/marry/enter into a relationship, but there are very few that spew hatred of women.

Then are many content creators that focussed on some aspect of men improving themselves whether it is financial, health, fitness etc.

Very few content creators actually focussed on drumming up hatred against women.

So the documentary falls short in my opinion as it not objective of the manosphere but seems to be a hit piece.

I did some searching and some of the content creators have fired back with their own rebuttals and longer videos apperently showing how Louis editted the video. Have not watched these videos. Probably have a look this weekend.

Some might be fair points and don't have tick tok but spend some time on x and the stuff going viral is usually not great although it could also be the algorithm. Have met a few local "influencers" and from my personal experience they generally don't care about anything except money and take any and all promotions without any disclosure.
 
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So I watched the documentary, the only person I recognised from the Manosphere was Myron mainly due to his clips going viral.

Louis is dishonest.

Background: I think in 2019, I came across the term Incel here on one of the mybb threads. Had no idea what it meant. Did a lot of research. IMHO: Mainstream media villianised them without even bothering to understand these young men and teenage boys gripes/issues.

The manosphere is as broad as men interests, hence there is no central theme of manosphere.

Louis concentrated on what appears to be grifters and PUAs. This is my takeaway just from the documentary.

Problem is that mainstream media appears to use the term manosphere term to describe nearly any male youtuber/content creator thats offers advice to young men, especially where some content is about women.

I do acknowledge that there are content creators that focussed exclusively on women bad behaviour as reason men should not date/marry/enter into a relationship, but there are very few that spew hatred of women.

Then are many content creators that focussed on some aspect of men improving themselves whether it is financial, health, fitness etc.

Very few content creators actually focussed on drumming up hatred against women.

So the documentary falls short in my opinion as it not objective of the manosphere but seems to be a hit piece.

I did some searching and some of the content creators have fired back with their own rebuttals and longer videos apperently showing how Louis editted the video. Have not watched these videos. Probably have a look this weekend.

I think you have an understanding of the term manosphere that doesn't correspond to how that term is used.

The wikipedia definition of manosphere -

The manosphere is a varied collection of websites, blogs, and online forums promoting masculinity, misogyny, and opposition to feminism. Communities within the manosphere include men's rights activists (MRAs),[2] incels (involuntary celibates),[3] Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW),[4] pick-up artists (PUA),[5] and fathers' rights groups. They are generally united in the belief that society is biased against men due to the influence of feminism, and that feminists promote misandry (hatred of men).[7] Acceptance of these ideas is described as "taking the red pill", a metaphor borrowed from the film The Matrix.

The other dudes you're watching who don't create such content should be grateful nobody else is including them in the manosphere realm.
 
I think you have an understanding of the term manosphere that doesn't correspond to how that term is used.

The wikipedia definition of manosphere -



The other dudes you're watching who don't create such content should be grateful nobody else is including them in the manosphere realm.
Your own link proves my point:

First sentence: promotes misogyny - which is the hatred of women.

If you read my post you would see I disagree with that viewpoint as it drives a narrow narrative that content created for young men particular is all about hatred of women. Louis only focussed on grifter and PUA.

I think there are certain truths in what the manosphere is peddling.

Like I said it was a hit piece. The issues young men and boys are facing are being ignored by mainstream media and hence why the Tates and other grifters are making money off them. They come across that they are are the only ones who sees what these young men are going through.

In the documentary, Louis meet a young man who idolises one of the menin the documentary. Upon speaking, the young man: was homeless, lost his brother who committed suicide and the advice he recieved from the "manosphere" was what allow him to pull through. Louis could have honestly also expanded on that - where there are many similar young men who improved their lives thanks to the manosphere.
 
So I watched the documentary, the only person I recognised from the Manosphere was Myron mainly due to his clips going viral.

Louis is dishonest.

Background: I think in 2019, I came across the term Incel here on one of the mybb threads. Had no idea what it meant. Did a lot of research. IMHO: Mainstream media villianised them without even bothering to understand these young men and teenage boys gripes/issues.

The manosphere is as broad as men interests, hence there is no central theme of manosphere.

Louis concentrated on what appears to be grifters and PUAs. This is my takeaway just from the documentary.

Problem is that mainstream media appears to use the term manosphere term to describe nearly any male youtuber/content creator thats offers advice to young men, especially where some content is about women.

I do acknowledge that there are content creators that focussed exclusively on women bad behaviour as reason men should not date/marry/enter into a relationship, but there are very few that spew hatred of women.

Then are many content creators that focussed on some aspect of men improving themselves whether it is financial, health, fitness etc.

Very few content creators actually focussed on drumming up hatred against women.

So the documentary falls short in my opinion as it not objective of the manosphere but seems to be a hit piece.

I did some searching and some of the content creators have fired back with their own rebuttals and longer videos apperently showing how Louis editted the video. Have not watched these videos. Probably have a look this weekend.

One of the people featured in The Manosphere is HSTikkyTokky, watch Pierce Morgan walk off his own show:

HSTikkyTokky vs Piers Morgan (FULL INTERVIEW)

 
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