Early adopters may face Windows 7 problems

[pmbellis]

Ahh ...

Of course they choose to develop for that OS. To be a developer for OS X you have to sign up first and be accepted as a developer then you are either given a pre release copy of OS X to work on at Apple's World Wide Developers Conference or download it from their developer website.

Ahh ... so you can't just be a developer for application XYZ and then say ... "I'd like to sell this to Apple users as well" ... Hmm, if Apple makes people jump through hoops to develop for them, then of course a large proportion of developers are never going to bother ... Apple shooting itself in the foot here?

Runs seamlessly is pretty self explanatory - running applications.

Actually, no. The concept may be self-explanatory, but the practice? Can I walk into Incredible Connection, pick up the lastest Windows app to catch my eye, and with no special knowledge be assured that it will install and run?

To cover your second point, how did you first get to use Windows? You had to or eventually had to buy it or it came with your new PC. It was your choice to go with Windows. If you decide to try out OS X there are ways to do this. Go to their website where it perfectly explains the transition from PC to Mac or visit an Apple shop all over SA. But THIS IS YOUR choice if it is something you want to do. You only remain Joe Average if you don't try new things.

I don't deny that Windows retains dominance in the market and I believe it always will however statistically OS X increases market share year after year. FACT.

My point is, Joe Average will NOT fork out money just to try something new. If you want to increase market share, then you HAVE to aim for Joe Average. If Apple WANTS to be elitist and only aim for the narrow band of users that actively seek out change, then fine, I have absolutely no issue with that, but to say that the average user must change BEFORE he can be exposed to OS X is totally unrealistic. The average user will NOT experiment if there is the slightest expense.

 

[Toxin]

Staying on topic, I will not be an early adopter of Win7. Will wait a month or two before getting it.

Had a bad experiance with Vista in the first two months of using it. To be fair it wasn't really Vista but drivers for other devices (soundcard, g-card, etc) that was giving me grief.

 

[Lazy]

I never mentioned how/why 'we' got into Windows in the first place. My main point, if you paid attention, was that OS X is superior to Windows and if you run on OS X why are you going on about the hows and wheres of getting hands on with an OS X machine? If you need Windows for a specific task, fine, but both can be used from one machine, a Mac.

To cover your second point, how did you first get to use Windows? You had to or eventually had to buy it or it came with your new PC.

My post, if you paid attention, was in response to your question of 'how did you first get to use windows'. Further than that I was responding to your flawless posts which seems to indicate no actual tangable point other than just being pro Mac and anti Microsoft. It is what irritates me most about people who argue anti-microsoft. Nine times out of ten people make points they overheard other people saying, pretending to understand them.
If you really knew your subject you would have pointed out other [real] things, such as how the API's are so much more consistent on a mac compared to windows.

OpenTTD FTW, it runs on every known OS known to man, mostly.

This has gone so far off topic I can hardly believe that I am even bothering to still respond.

 

[Justin202]

My post, if you paid attention, was in response to your question of 'how did you first get to use windows'. Further than that I was responding to your flawless posts which seems to indicate no actual tangable point other than just being pro Mac and anti Microsoft. It is what irritates me most about people who argue anti-microsoft. Nine times out of ten people make points they overheard other people saying, pretending to understand them.
If you really knew your subject you would have pointed out other [real] things, such as how the API's are so much more consistent on a mac compared to windows.

OpenTTD FTW, it runs on every known OS known to man, mostly.

This has gone so far off topic I can hardly believe that I am even bothering to still respond.

I asked when you first used Windows not a computer. Did Microsoft drop by your house and give you a free copy or did you decide to go out and buy yourself? It was choice. The point I made is if you want to use OS X you'd go out and find out what it's like but wait you said you use it already so what are you asking a bunch of inane questions about something you already have?

And believe me nothing I say about Mac is 'overheard'. I like you started on DOS and have used every version of Windows since then. I now use Apple only and for now that is all I'll ever use. You right, don't respond. Spent today explaining to you if you want to try OS X there are options when you are using Apple anyway. Get a life!

 

[DaLaw.za]

I will be an early adopter of Windows 7.
I've been running RC 7100 X64 for the last about 2 months and I'm incredibly impressed.
As for the Mac vs Windows conversation; Everything I need is on Windows. I can do anything your Mac can do. I don't want to run emulation just to play a game, or run an application that was designed for Windows.

With that said, I have nothing against Macs. If I had the money and all I did was edit videos or photoshop, I'd go that route.

 

[Lazy]

I now use Apple only and for now that is all I'll ever use

That makes about as much sense as all your posts combined.

I'm not asking inane questions for my benefit, I'm showcasing the gaps in your posts, which shouldn't be required but sadly is as needed as Barry Ronge when Sylvester Stallone releases a docu drama on the perils of penelope pitstop. I feel compelled to do so because it is people like you who break down every bit of good progress that is made against Microsoft. Microsoft, who provided the basis for me actually having an income, is not that different to the IT division at most companies: it is perceived a neccessary evil, while in reality it is an enabler. One which can do with a little competiotion.

 

[Justin202]

That makes about as much sense as all your posts combined.

I'm not asking inane questions for my benefit, I'm showcasing the gaps in your posts, which shouldn't be required but sadly is as needed as Barry Ronge when Sylvester Stallone releases a docu drama on the perils of penelope pitstop. I feel compelled to do so because it is people like you who break down every bit of good progress that is made against Microsoft. Microsoft, who provided the basis for me actually having an income, is not that different to the IT division at most companies: it is perceived a neccessary evil, while in reality it is an enabler. One which can do with a little competiotion.

I have to admit I'm sitting here chuckling. Are you a woman? You've gone from DOS to a gay fat man critiquing Rambo making Whacky Races. You see what Windows does to you!

 

[Tns]

a clean install would be prefered way of dealing with windoze,
i actually have a apple mac at home, only using it for internet via firefox.

 

[porchrat]

I have to admit I'm sitting here chuckling. Are you a woman? You've gone from DOS to a gay fat man critiquing Rambo making Whacky Races. You see what Windows does to you!

You misunderstand nearly every post and then get confrontational. Nice. If you can't comprehend english, then don't post.

As I mentioned previously, unless it comes with a machine that is an amazing deal (highly likely) I won't be using Win7 at all.

 

[PeterCH]

I will be an early adopter of Windows 7.
I've been running RC 7100 X64 for the last about 2 months and I'm incredibly impressed.
As for the Mac vs Windows conversation; Everything I need is on Windows. I can do anything your Mac can do. I don't want to run emulation just to play a game, or run an application that was designed for Windows.

Windows is not a gaming platform either. Your choice of games for WinTel is larger than for Mac but you won't find entire genres of games for WinTel, only on console. Arguably the gaming argument is one of degree only - WinTel plays a few more games than native Mac (there are many games for Mac eg Quake 4, Sims, UT etc) and you can run Windows natively without emulation on a Mac too (Bootcamp). Also for most WinTel games you need a 3D card, without one your WinTel machine can actually play fewer games.

 

[PeterCH]

Then again you can't change the battery yourself. Or can you now? I don't really keep up to date with Macs, but that was always an issue for me. I am way too afraid to send my laptop in to be repaired or anything because these servicing people (even the official ones) lose the laptops, claim water damage or plain charge you and fix nothing (terrible experiences in the past with HP). So if I needed to send my macbook in every time I need the battery changed it would be an issue for me.

The previous gen of MBP/MBs had separate batteries and longer life than WinTel machines.

 

[Rouxenator]

The previous gen of MBP/MBs had separate batteries and longer life than WinTel machines.

What a relief I am running WinAMD machines

 

[Lazy]

Isn't it technically MacTel these days too?

 

[onlyme]

How is this news, not Pre-release software/OS from any vendoe has ever been upgradable to the final product, and never should be.

 

[ginggs]

How is this news, not Pre-release software/OS from any vendoe has ever been upgradable to the final product, and never should be.

Why on earth should it be a problem?

I had no problems doing this with Windows NT, 2000, XP, 2003, and more recently had no problems upgrading Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex from Alphas to Betas to release candidates and finally to the release version.