El Capitan OS X

[ajv]

No luck just yet �� so my externals with partitions of ntfs are now read only. Seems like an issue with NTFS-3G not being compatible with El Capitan. Waiting on someone to find a way but keep in mind this is Tuxeredo? which is a paid for app so thinking its unlikely.

Ah dammit, NTFS is read only. Didn't notice this until now.
If I knew this I would not have upgraded.

 

[Enigma_]

Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer. Small things like this that just annoy me with OSX.

 

[d0b33]

Ah dammit, NTFS is read only. Didn't notice this until now.
If I knew this I would not have upgraded.

No luck just yet �� so my externals with partitions of ntfs are now read only. Seems like an issue with NTFS-3G not being compatible with El Capitan. Waiting on someone to find a way but keep in mind this is Tuxeredo? which is a paid for app so thinking its unlikely.

If you really need NTFS write just get Tuxera NTFS, it has free updates and you just pay once.
Paragon charges for each release.

 

[Enigma_]

If you really need NTFS write just get Tuxera NTFS, it has free updates and you just pay once.
Paragon charges for each release.

Thanks I'll try that. Or I'll just get rid of this Mac

 

[PostmanPot]

Or I'll just get rid of this Mac

Puhleez!

 

[d0b33]

Thanks I'll try that. Or I'll just get rid of this Mac

Windows does not read HFS, maybe I should do the same.

 

[Enigma_]

Yeah, I've been using a Mac laptop for the last couple of weeks, can't say I'm terribly impressed. The only really nice thing about it is the build quality and dimensions of the unit, and that the OS is nicely polished and easy to use (well for basic things, anyway). But I'll stick with it for a bit longer, maybe the next update will bring 'amazing' improvements I think I'll buy the Tuxera thingymabob.

Oh and the 2016 update for Office Mac is awesome. Huge improvement.

 

[bwana]

Yeah, I've been using a Mac laptop for the last couple of weeks, can't say I'm terribly impressed. The only really nice thing about it is the build quality and dimensions of the unit, and that the OS is nicely polished and easy to use (well for basic things, anyway). But I'll stick with it for a bit longer, maybe the next update will bring 'amazing' improvements I think I'll buy the Tuxera thingymabob.

Oh and the 2016 update for Office Mac is awesome. Huge improvement.

Nice build quality and physical form, and a polished OS… sounds horrible. I feel your pain. :erm:

 

[Tinuva]

Just out of interest sake, why do you need NTFS? I used to think I need it, until I said screw it, and formatted all my externals with ExFAT, which both Windows, OSX and Linux can all read/write. Linux needs a bit more work, but that is the person using the Linux PC's problem.

 

[AfricanTech]

Just out of interest sake, why do you need NTFS? I used to think I need it, until I said screw it, and formatted all my externals with ExFAT, which both Windows, OSX and Linux can all read/write. Linux needs a bit more work, but that is the person using the Linux PC's problem.

NTFS supports more features in security and reliability (journalling, etc).

exFAT is an extension of a very old, somewhat unreliable filesystem (FAT32) - it corrupts easily (especially if you forget to 'eject' your external drive before removing it)

NTFS is more reliable and robust than any FAT system - the incompatibility with OSX is bloody irritating though.

 

[Tinuva]

Well if you are so hellbent on using NTFS, then perhaps you should indeed rather use Windows instead of OSX.

 

[ajv]

So I reformatted my external drive to exFAT and now works as expected. Love my mac, but the fact that NTFS is not supported out of the box (read and write) is really disappointing. Yes you can buy 3rd party tools for that, but surely accessing probably the most commonly used filesystem should form part of the base OS.

 

[Tinuva]

It is only the most commonly used system on Windows, nowhere else.

All the car radio systems with USB supports the FAT filesystems.
All operating systems supports the FAT filesystems.
Most other equipment with USB support for external drives all support FAT filesystems, some perhaps support NTFS but its most definitely not all of them.

I fail to see how NTFS is the most commonly used filesystem, except for the Windows world.

 

[ajv]

It is only the most commonly used system on Windows, nowhere else.

All the car radio systems with USB supports the FAT filesystems.
All operating systems supports the FAT filesystems.
Most other equipment with USB support for external drives all support FAT filesystems, some perhaps support NTFS but its most definitely not all of them.

I fail to see how NTFS is the most commonly used filesystem, except for the Windows world.

Yeah OK, point taken. Maybe not the most common

 

[Enigma_]

Just out of interest sake, why do you need NTFS? I used to think I need it, until I said screw it, and formatted all my externals with ExFAT, which both Windows, OSX and Linux can all read/write. Linux needs a bit more work, but that is the person using the Linux PC's problem.

NTFS is a more widely used format. It's more secure, more stable and has better stability over ExFAT/FAT32. If anyone hands you a flash drive with some info on it (say in a work environment). You have to say to them - Sorry, I just need to copy all of your data off here onto my tiny SSD (hope it fits) and then proceed to telling them you're just formatting their flash drive quickly so that you can write everything back onto it.

Surely Apple could have done a better job with this, or is it just one of those little niggles that Apple wouldn't fix because it's believed that everyone should be using a stinking Mac?

 

[ph4t3]

I'm seeing a really weird issue, can anyone shed some light on this.

After upgrading to El Capitan, video playback quality on MPlayerX seems very pixelated compared to VLC.

This wasn't the case in Maverick.

Not sure why this is happening?

 

[bwana]

So I reformatted my external drive to exFAT and now works as expected. Love my mac, but the fact that NTFS is not supported out of the box (read and write) is really disappointing. Yes you can buy 3rd party tools for that, but surely accessing probably the most commonly used filesystem should form part of the base OS.

It's a proprietary file system owned by microsoft.

 

[Enigma_]

It's a proprietary file system owned by microsoft.

Acknowledged, Apple doesn't want you using anything other than their own kit, so it kind of explains why there would be no native support. It's Apples nonchalant way of saying "Use an Apple device rather"

 

[Tinuva]

NTFS is a more widely used format. It's more secure, more stable and has better stability over ExFAT/FAT32. If anyone hands you a flash drive with some info on it (say in a work environment). You have to say to them - Sorry, I just need to copy all of your data off here onto my tiny SSD (hope it fits) and then proceed to telling them you're just formatting their flash drive quickly so that you can write everything back onto it.

Surely Apple could have done a better job with this, or is it just one of those little niggles that Apple wouldn't fix because it's believed that everyone should be using a stinking Mac?

Heh, what makes you think NTFS is more secure than ExFAT? If I plug it into my machine where I have admin rights, there is no security blocking me from accessing anything on the NTFS external drive. So what security are you talking about?
Stability? Do you want me to laugh at you? FAT32 is equally stable if not more stable. The only limitation is the 2GB file limit on FAT32, which is fixed in ExFAT.

Some people in this world has huge misconceptions on standard things. Filesystems is no exception it seems.

 

[krycor]

If you really need NTFS write just get Tuxera NTFS, it has free updates and you just pay once.
Paragon charges for each release.

At R400+ a pop/single machine.. no thanks, thats ridiculously expensive.


LMAO @Paragon, the VmWare model = buy one, copy future if upgrade fees > 50%. I think software companies need to know better when it comes to consumer software, pricing models like this cause piracy