Emigration....... Are people serious

zahadoom said:
Good day all
I'm curious to find out something.
I hear people saying they would in a second emigrate especially when the load shedding strikes.
Do you really think they are serious or is it just talk?
Would you leave if given the oppturnity?
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I would emigrate in a heartbeat, were a suitable option to present itself.

The reason being, that outside of my nuclear family, I have no close ties, and a desire to experience as many cultures and countries as I am able to.

Sure, I have concerns about South Africa, as many do, but I also have, as no doubt many do as well, an awareness of what a ****ing awesome place this is, in many respects.
 
copacetic said:
were a suitable option to present itself.
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Viva said:
I'd strongly consider it given the opportunity.
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Gotta reach out and grab it - opportunities rarely present themselves.

cguy said:
You know, she could have also applied for an H1B (and worked).
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Dunno hey. Not familiar with US law but I do know friends got stuck in that hole. Husband wasn't allowed to work. Craziest thing ever given that this guy was off the charts versatile (as in build a house single-handedly versatile)
 
HavocXphere said:
Gotta reach out and grab it - opportunities rarely present themselves.


Dunno hey. Not familiar with US law but I do know friends got stuck in that hole. Husband wasn't allowed to work. Craziest thing ever given that this guy was off the charts versatile (as in build a house single-handedly versatile)
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An H1B is the skilled work visa that most people get to work in the country. Point being that in general if the spouse is also skilled (apparently so) and can also get a work sponsor he/she can work too, rather than going on an H4 (H1B spouse visa) visa, which restricts work.

My wife couldn't work because she was on an H4, so she did some volunteer work at first and then a masters degree after. When she finished, she could work (took about 18 months from arrival to get the work card), but she no longer needed to, so she didn't.
 
cguy said:
An H1B is the skilled work visa that most people get to work in the country. Point being that in general if the spouse is also skilled (apparently so) and can also get a work sponsor he/she can work too, rather than going on an H4 (H1B spouse visa) visa, which restricts work.

My wife couldn't work because she was on an H4, so she did some volunteer work at first and then a masters degree after. When she finished, she could work (took about 18 months from arrival to get the work card), but she no longer needed to, so she didn't.
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I suspect its easier for the degreed crowd - very difficult to distinguish between the crowd that *claims* to be able to build a house from scratch vs those that have pulled off that stunt. Anyway...he got the papers sorted eventually...though I'm told the surrounding neighbours did acquire suspiciously good looking driveways in the mean time. :D
 
People that threaten to leave time in and time out probably will never leave.

We applied, only told close family and once the visas came through I resigned giving double the notice that I needed to out of respect for my superiors and now we are finally settling in here 9 weeks after landing.
 
zahadoom said:
Good day all
I'm curious to find out something.
I hear people saying they would in a second emigrate especially when the load shedding strikes.
Do you really think they are serious or is it just talk?
Would you leave if given the oppturnity?
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Especially when employment equity strikes.

Yes.
 
copacetic said:
I would emigrate in a heartbeat, were a suitable option to present itself.

The reason being, that outside of my nuclear family, I have no close ties, and a desire to experience as many cultures and countries as I am able to.

Sure, I have concerns about South Africa, as many do, but I also have, as no doubt many do as well, an awareness of what a ****ing awesome place this is, in many respects.
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In what way is SA fscking awesome?
 
hawker said:
Weather is very good for one thing.

But I feel like I could deal with crappy weather year round for a better quality of life in other areas.
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Weather is also pretty great in many other places that aren't London. California has much nicer weather than Pretoria, as long as you aren't partial to seasons and stuff.
 
Well, its gotten a tad bit more serious for me...
As I left work yesterday after logging off here too, they phoned me with a serious job offer in Europe... if they agree to assist me with the relocation then we're outta here. Otherwise the original plan still stands to be out of here by next year. There is no turning back, no chickening-out. I already spent a lot of money on this.
 
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Things are going to get worse unfortunately so best to leave if you can.
I plan on leaving since my wife is an EU citizen.
 
Spend time investigating a foreign passport. Look at ALL family members and relatives. Dig deep in the family tree then look again.
We did it 30 years ago and never looked back. Kids flip around the world,living and working without a problem.
 
Aqua_lung said:
Things are going to get worse unfortunately so best to leave if you can.
I plan on leaving since my wife is an EU citizen.
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My soon to be wife is also a citizen in the EU (although she grew up in SA with a SA passport). From what I understand, I'd only be able to apply for citizenship after living in the country with her for 5 years. Probably depends on the country though.

I hope this makes it slightly easier for us.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
In what way is SA fscking awesome?
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From Jo'burg by any chance?

It's rare for anyone from the WC to want to leave.

Chasing new opportunities yes, but "escaping" no.

Jo'burg and other places people seem to want to flee daily. It's like a different country.

In fact I know plenty of internationals that have moved HERE in the last five years with permanent residency and all.

Brits, Germans, Americans, Brazilians and of course Asians.
 
It's not just the load shedding, i think that is just a main driver that tips people over the edge.

It's the state our economy is in at the current moment. I don't think the rand was ever this weak compared to the US dollar, Pound and Euro. Yet people still ask us to be optimistic.
 
SauRoNZA said:
From Jo'burg by any chance?

It's rare for anyone from the WC to want to leave.

Chasing new opportunities yes, but "escaping" no.

Jo'burg and other places people seem to want to flee daily. It's like a different country.

In fact I know plenty of internationals that have moved HERE in the last five years with permanent residency and all.

Brits, Germans, Americans, Brazilians and of course Asians.
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This. They're usually from Gauteng.

That place is a ****hole.
 
biometrics said:
This. They're usually from Gauteng.

That place is a ****hole.
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Exactly. I can completely understand why load shedding would be more of an issue as well being anything from 4-8 hours by the sound of things.
 
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