Eskom can't take back white engineers without jumping through hoops

TheMightyQuinn

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So @surface , you always say BEE is not racism in your post. Explain how this is not racism ..
Surprised he hasn't responded with his usual hi IQ...superior genes...Perth drivel.

Only @TheChamp is willing to die on this MyCadre hill...the rest of the team cannot even try to spin this ESKOM apocalypse.

No wonder MyCadre is always angry and frustrated....how embarrassing this must be for them.

The Glorious Liberation Government's ultra racism is exposed once again.
 

TheChamp

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Surprised he hasn't responded with his usual hi IQ...superior genes...Perth drivel.

Only @TheChamp is willing to die on this MyCadre hill...the rest of the team cannot even try to spin this ESKOM apocalypse.

No wonder MyCadre is always angry and frustrated....how embarrassing this must be for them.

The Glorious Liberation Government's ultra racism is exposed once again.
Did you realise you have just described MightyQuin?
 

MikeMike

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There's some many good engineers in the private sector willing to help out, granted they'll want certain conditions of employment, but drop AA and BEE and get them on board.
 

mojoman

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I dont know why you guys are all arguying...just repeat this...

TIA...
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When you cant explain the logic...And the sheer stupidity numbs your brain...say the words....
TIA....
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"De Ruyter said that they must consider transformation, liability, and accountability in navigating the offers from these retirees."

Ja De Poepol, maybe take your head out of your ass and consider the fact that THIS is exactly the reason why we cannot get pissed in a brewery. But please keep on considering transformation and by the time we have absolutely nothing left you would have at least made enough to go live somewhere else in comfort.
 

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It's bizarre that a CEO would cite HR hurdles as a reason to not accept focussed, qualified help. Eskom is literally sinking, and this is his response. It can only be 2 things; one is he's not REALLy in control of the company and the decision-making, or two, he's completely incompetent and negligent. Both of these options are completely unacceptable, and in fact, since Eskom is a tax-funded company, there should be civil action against such a negligent director.
 

TheMightyQuinn

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"De Ruyter said that they must consider transformation, liability, and accountability in navigating the offers from these retirees."

Ja De Poepol, maybe take your head out of your ass and consider the fact that THIS is exactly the reason why we cannot get pissed in a brewery. But please keep on considering transformation and by the time we have absolutely nothing left you would have at least made enough to go live somewhere else in comfort.
FFS...do you really think the De Ruyter makes the policy in ESKOM??

Maybe get your head out of your ass?
 

TheMightyQuinn

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It's bizarre that a CEO would cite HR hurdles as a reason to not accept focussed, qualified help. Eskom is literally sinking, and this is his response. It can only be 2 things; one is he's not REALLy in control of the company and the decision-making, or two, he's completely incompetent and negligent. Both of these options are completely unacceptable, and in fact, since Eskom is a tax-funded company, there should be civil action against such a negligent director.
This obviously.

His ANC masters run the show when it comes to HR in that company.

They said it loud and clear from day one.
 

azbob

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Why’s he in the job if his hands are tied? Just collecting a salary for not doing anything like all the BEE hires people complain about. He should leave and join the exodus.
 

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I once had respect for De Ruyter.

He has lost all credibility by trying to please our corrupt politicians (ANC).
 
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TheChamp

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Why’s he in the job if his hands are tied? Just collecting a salary for not doing anything like all the BEE hires people complain about. He should leave and join the exodus.
His appointment was a master stroke, I have never seen MyBroedebond so confused and conflicted ever since I joined this forum.
 
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ArmatageShanks

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It's bizarre that a CEO would cite HR hurdles as a reason to not accept focussed, qualified help. Eskom is literally sinking, and this is his response. It can only be 2 things; one is he's not REALLy in control of the company and the decision-making, or two, he's completely incompetent and negligent. Both of these options are completely unacceptable, and in fact, since Eskom is a tax-funded company, there should be civil action against such a negligent director.
If we're being honest though, what do you think they will do when WHITE engineers are hired publicly.

These are weapon wielding murdering infrastructure burning racist savages we are talking about you know.

Eksdom's operations are the least of their concern.
 

thestaggy

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I have an indian friend on the water infrastructure side of things. Really clever guy.

Fascinating to hear him recount some of the otherworldly skills some of these old ballies had when he was being trained by them. We're talking guys who identify complex issues that would take a legion of graduates months to figure out, and they do it using experience and senses like touch and hearing.

I think this is one of the more egregious things BEE/transformation has resulted in; the loss of on-the-job skills and knowledge transfer.

They - ANC - have been, and are, so desperate to forcibly change the optics that they have caused a loss of skills and knowledge in critical areas that may never be reacquired.

Lecturers and textbooks cannot teach you everything.
 

RonSwanson

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It's bizarre that a CEO would cite HR hurdles as a reason to not accept focussed, qualified help. Eskom is literally sinking, and this is his response. It can only be 2 things; one is he's not REALLy in control of the company and the decision-making, or two, he's completely incompetent and negligent. Both of these options are completely unacceptable, and in fact, since Eskom is a tax-funded company, there should be civil action against such a negligent director.
Show me a South African company that is "fully in control of the company and the decision making", including hiring decisions, and I will show you a company that is not compliant with racist AA and BEE legislation and regulations, including an inspectorate that will report on that non-compliance on a regular basis. Furthermore, that company will be subjected to punitive economic measures because of that non-compliance with racist laws and regulations.

So, in fact it is the other way around: A CEO (or CE in de Ruyter's case) reports to the Board of Directors, and a Directors' role, as defined in the Companies' Act, is to make decisions which are compliant with prevailing legislation and regulations, and always act within the law (even if it's racist). The CEO cannot operate outside of his mandate as provided by the directors, or that provided bu relevant industry legislation and regulations.

So good luck with your civil action, here are the respondents' names and photographs:
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It would be far more profitable, and have far better chances of success, to lobby for the repeal of the racist legislation and regulations, but considering that it ideologically aligned with the goals of the ANC, and the fact that it fills the stomachs of their connected friends, good luck with that too.
 
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azbob

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Show me a South African company that is "fully in control of the company and the decision making", including hiring decisions, and I will show you a company that is not compliant with racist AA and BEE legislation and regulations, including an inspectorate that will report on that non-compliance on a regular basis. Furthermore, that company will be subjected to punitive economic measures because of that non-compliance with racist laws and regulations.

So, in fact it is the other way around: A CEO (or CE in de Ruyter's case) reports to the Board of Directors, and a Directors' role, as defined in the Companies' Act, is to make decisions which are compliant with prevailing legislation and regulations, and always act within the law (even if it's racist). The CEO cannot operate outside of his mandate as provided by the directors, or that provided bu relevant industry legislation and regulations.

So good luck with your civil action, here are the respondents' names and photographs:
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It would be far more profitable, and have far better chances of success, to lobby for the repeal of the racist legislation and regulations, but considering that it ideologically aligned with the goals of the ANC, and the fact that it fills the stomachs of their connected friends, good luck with that too.

The Eskom board appears to be very highly qualified from those bios, de Ruyter stands out as one of the weakest links with his generic bio.
 

RonSwanson

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The Eskom board appears to be very highly qualified from those bios, de Ruyter stands out as one of the weakest links with his generic bio.
You should highlight that to those who appointed him. Nice try at trolling BTW.
 
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