Free Telkom ADSL speed upgrades planned: source

i'm already on 4Mbps, and no upgrade to 10Mbps planned.
still, i wonder what this will do to the uncapped pricing from MWEB and all the other ISPs, who base their uncapped price on the speed... will they keep the same pricing, even though they now have to allow faster throughput?
 
Although surely this will put some people back on capped accounts. There is already a 1Mbps uncapped account and would ISPs really just upgrade people to a higher speed for free?
 
Did you even bother to read my post properly?

Each user will have a lower % time used than what they currently do which will reduce congestion over time.

Let's say you currently have 100 384k users on a given exchange, now each users downloads his 6 linux distros a week that he watches at let's say 600MB each, so that's a total of 3.6GB per week per user.

3.6GB at 384k will take roughly 25.6 hours to complete, for those 25.6 hours that users is using his shared portion of the capacity all the time.

Now give them all 1Mb lines, now the download will only take 9.3 hours, which means that each user is now spending 16.3 hours less downloading than what they previously were allow other users to use capacity they were previously using all of the time.

Now take this across the 100 users, so the 100 users would've been using capacity for 2560 (106.6 days) combined hours while now they will only be using 960 (40 days) combined hours which is a significant reduction.

Think of it this way, you're travelling along a road at 60KM/h, it will take you 6 hours to cover 360KM, now they increase the speed limit on the road to 120KM/h, it will only take you 3 hours to cover the same distance after which you get off the road and another user can take up your spot.

As Sting pointed out, the users are going to try and download the internet in the first few weeks but will soon realize it ain't that great and go back to normal usage patterns.

Think before you post.

Did you (grim) even bother to read his (jikajoe1) post? He agreed with you.
 
nah ,I wont do that ,I can only support what makes sense ,ok *wink*
 
Did you even bother to read my post properly?

Each user will have a lower % time used than what they currently do which will reduce congestion over time.

Let's say you currently have 100 384k users on a given exchange, now each users downloads his 6 linux distros a week that he watches at let's say 600MB each, so that's a total of 3.6GB per week per user.

3.6GB at 384k will take roughly 25.6 hours to complete, for those 25.6 hours that users is using his shared portion of the capacity all the time.

Now give them all 1Mb lines, now the download will only take 9.3 hours, which means that each user is now spending 16.3 hours less downloading than what they previously were allow other users to use capacity they were previously using all of the time.

Now take this across the 100 users, so the 100 users would've been using capacity for 2560 (106.6 days) combined hours while now they will only be using 960 (40 days) combined hours which is a significant reduction.

Think of it this way, you're travelling along a road at 60KM/h, it will take you 6 hours to cover 360KM, now they increase the speed limit on the road to 120KM/h, it will only take you 3 hours to cover the same distance after which you get off the road and another user can take up your spot.

As Sting pointed out, the users are going to try and download the internet in the first few weeks but will soon realize it ain't that great and go back to normal usage patterns.

Think before you post.

Yeah sure !

Just look at how BIS is turning out, even though its on a different type of network (wireless) its real world scenario clearly illustrates the impact this will have on congestion.

Its always a few out there abusing the network and think for a minute, once people realise that they are getting better speeds, they will que up more to be downloaded, and that will great more congestion and then they will get reduced speeds which will in turn just great even more congestion.

Just thinking over here...

I agree with telkom, upgrade the exchange first, then upgrade the lines, or risk a massive call centre flaming.
 
Not really, the TCP overheads will shift to that of a 2 Mbps line, so you'll get the full account speed i.e. 128 KBps, as opposed to ~102 KBps. Also I don't think that ISPs would increase their prices much, if at all, since they didn't do that for the 512 Kbps upgrade - and they did just receive an IPC price cut.

is your 2 meg speed of 128 KBps an estimation or fact? i would think it would be higher than that, round 190-200, or am i naive ?

this is not a chirp but an honest question
 
Although surely this will put some people back on capped accounts. There is already a 1Mbps uncapped account and would ISPs really just upgrade people to a higher speed for free?

The Million $ Q .... If the the upgrades happen simultaneously.. then maybe yes
 
Whether 'tis nobler in the router to suffer
The congestion and throttling of outrageous ISP's,
Or to take arms against a slow network,
And by immigrating end them? :)

"Out, out, slow speed! 384K is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
:D
 
Think of it this way, you're travelling along a road at 60KM/h, it will take you 6 hours to cover 360KM, now they increase the speed limit on the road to 120KM/h, it will only take you 3 hours to cover the same distance after which you get off the road and another user can take up your spot.

This wont help you if so many people are on the road you cant drive at 120km/h...... Just look at the current N1 at 5pm on you'll know.
 
That's all very well, but what about the uncapped offerings? I don't want to be paying more for a 2mb one now.
 
Telkom really does need to upgrade congested exchanges first. The one here in my town is congested and they keep on adding more adsl customers to it even though they know we are having problems. After the exchange upgrades they can do speed upgrades.
 
That's all very well, but what about the uncapped offerings? I don't want to be paying more for a 2mb one now.

very true! ISP's can still charge the same price for their 1mb and 2mb offerings.

I just sent my cancellation letter through this morning so wont be with telkom for a while. :(
 
... This is according to a source close to the Telkom’s DSL operations.

Nothing more trustworthy than an anonymous source :wtf:

Looks like the annual MyBB Telkom "Silly Season" wish list has opened :)
 
YES! now i can downgrade my "10Mb capable line" that can only sync at 3Mbps anyways! They can offer 100Mbps speeds it makes no difference if you live far from the exchange.
 
In a way i really hope this only happens once the Telkom backhaul is ready for it.

I dread the day all 384k users are upgraded and using alot more out of the network than before, I can just see a ton of people complaining due to congestion at the dslams/exchange.

This is definitely what the country needs and i would love to pay R152 for a 1mb line but not if the congestion is going to make my current speed worse.

Please Telkom do not do this until you have got sufficient bandwidth at the dslams/exchanges and backhaul.
 
Sorry Telkom... I'm tired of your announcements about "upgrades" that never come to fruition.
Forgive me if I think you are telling lies again.... but your track record in the honesty department is not very good.
90% of ADSL users have yet to see ANYTHING in terms of improvement. Cost wise, or speed wise. Nothing, nada.

You can make all the fancy announcements that you want... but we know that we will just keep on received the same crap service years after year...

That is the reality.
 
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