Gaming Laptop: recommendations

R 12,194.00 gets you the following.

Antec One Hundred Case
550W 80+ PSU
Core i5 2400
MSI P67A mobo with USB 3
4Gb Ram
AMD Radeon 6850
Samsung 2333 23" 1920x1080 LCD
500GB 7200RPM Drive
LG 8x Bluray Drive
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Gaming Keyboard
Microsoft X5 Laser Gaming Mouse

Add a Webcam from Logitech R498.54 and a dlink wireless N stick R402.21
and 13094.75 gets youa PC that is in a completely different league to the HP Envy.

This is based off of a build from Evetech so if you get the parts yourself you can cut off probably R1-R2k off the price.

A WAY faster Desktop for less than the laptop.

I bet you i would beat you in a foot race, with all that strapped to your back :P
 
R 12,194.00 gets you the following.

Antec One Hundred Case
550W 80+ PSU
Core i5 2400
MSI P67A mobo with USB 3
4Gb Ram
AMD Radeon 6850
Samsung 2333 23" 1920x1080 LCD
500GB 7200RPM Drive
LG 8x Bluray Drive
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Gaming Keyboard
Microsoft X5 Laser Gaming Mouse

Add a Webcam from Logitech R498.54 and a dlink wireless N stick R402.21
and 13094.75 gets youa PC that is in a completely different league to the HP Envy.

This is based off of a build from Evetech so if you get the parts yourself you can cut off probably R1-R2k off the price.

A WAY faster Desktop for less than the laptop.

Way faster at? I'll bet you the i7 720 will whoop that i5 at mixed radix FFT :)

And my statement still stands. I never said a desktop was NOT better value for money; I was just saying that the Envy IS good value for money.

Oh, and you forgot Windows 7 Home Premium... So add around R900 to the price :D Not to mention all the "little" things that cost very little, but add up to couple hundred or so... Card reader, PC card reader, etc...
 
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As has been pointed out, its 1920 x 1080, and I thought perhaps you had bought an Envy 14 and mistakenly thought it was full HD.



The most difficult part of that will be finding a screen that small for a desktop!

Yes, the Envy is a good mobile gaming rig. Its also R14000. I could build a desktop that performs as well, or better, for R10k. Why spend extra if you dont need the mobility? Thats the point - notebooks are more expensive, only buy them if you need the mobility.



And? Your point? As you know, its pretty easy to build a PC that will outperform that while being cheaper. Dont forget, your 5850 is really a 5770.

Haha! 100% true. Would only be a truly fair comparison comparing a 17" 1920x1080 monitor to the Envy...

Oh the other hand, 17.3" @ 1920x1080 gives you an incredibly good dot pitch...
 
Laptop Upgrade

What many people do not understand is that quite often laptops are also upgradeable.

Most things can be upgraded eg -- SSD / CPU / GPU if it is a card type / WiFi cards / 3G cards/ RAM / DVD- Blu Ray / screen can be changed / etc etc.

eg My old DELL latitude can be upgraded to 8 GB ram ( 2 x 4 GB SODIMM )

It is just that in SA the parts are normally impossible to find or are hellish expensive.

Like most markets in SA the Laptop one is heavily skewed.
 
Way faster at? I'll bet you the i7 720 will whoop that i5 at mixed radix FFT :)

And my statement still stands. I never said a desktop was NOT better value for money; I was just saying that the Envy IS good value for money.

Oh, and you forgot Windows 7 Home Premium... So add around R900 to the price :D Not to mention all the "little" things that cost very little, but add up to couple hundred or so... Card reader, PC card reader, etc...

Do you even know what an i5 2400 is?

The Envy is ok value, but the ideas floating around here of comparing it to a desktop of a similar price? It has no chance at all, never will.

I just faffed about with a prebuilt pc to get that. Card reader is R149 extra, windows lets call it R900. Then it's just a hair more expensive than the Envy and is in a completely different league of performance. You can save quite a bit if you build it yourself as well.

Only buy a laptop if you NEED mobility, other than that there is no reason at all to ever look at a laptop.
 
Do you even know what an i5 2400 is?
Yeah I do... Do you know what mixed radix FFT is? ;) Ever benchmarked it on different processor architectures using in-house bespoke tools?

The Envy is ok value, but the ideas floating around here of comparing it to a desktop of a similar price? It has no chance at all, never will.

I just faffed about with a prebuilt pc to get that. Card reader is R149 extra, windows lets call it R900. Then it's just a hair more expensive than the Envy and is in a completely different league of performance. You can save quite a bit if you build it yourself as well.

Only buy a laptop if you NEED mobility, other than that there is no reason at all to ever look at a laptop.

I agree. I was never disagreed. If you read back, I was saying that everyone seems to be misinterpreting everyone else and getting uptight due to fanboi-ism. PS3 vs. Xbox, iPhone vs. Blackberry, LCD vs. plasma, Linux vs. Windows, notebook vs. desktop.

At the end of the day, if mobility is a concern, then a notebook is basically the only choice. If mobility is not a concern, then guess what? A notebook is still a choice.

And to re-iterate AGAIN... I never said a desktop was not better value for money. I said that the Envy IS good value for money.
 
Yeah I do... Do you know what mixed radix FFT is? ;) Ever benchmarked it on different processor architectures using in-house bespoke tools?



I agree. I was never disagreed. If you read back, I was saying that everyone seems to be misinterpreting everyone else and getting uptight due to fanboi-ism. PS3 vs. Xbox, iPhone vs. Blackberry, LCD vs. plasma, Linux vs. Windows, notebook vs. desktop.

At the end of the day, if mobility is a concern, then a notebook is basically the only choice. If mobility is not a concern, then guess what? A notebook is still a choice.

And to re-iterate AGAIN... I never said a desktop was not better value for money. I said that the Envy IS good value for money.

So what did the i5 2400, or for that matter any sandybridge based quad core, score in this Mixed Radix FFT test? and what did the laptop core i7 720QM score? I'm pretty sure if the i7 720QM comes anywhere near any of the sandy bridge quad cores the software is not even remotely optimized.

At the end of the day, if mobility is a concern, then a notebook is basically the only choice. If mobility is not a concern, then guess what? A notebook is still a choice.

Ok lets make this really simple for you. If you didn't need mobility at all, would you buy a laptop over a desktop for the same money?
 
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