Kalvaer
Expert Member
Isn't that based on the technology at the time? As things improve that theory will no longer hold true, or not?
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That's one of the reasons I got my P6000 but the low light is typically P&S'ish so I still end up with a dSRL and the 50mm . . . and the rest of my gear in the boot.
koffiejunkie
Executive Member
Well, full frame sensors are advancing just as crop sensors are. So it will always have an advantage.
Kalvaer
Expert Member
For how long? there is only so much light that you can capture, or colour that can be "correctly" displayed, or noise that shows up in high ISO?
Then they can get working on dynamic range.
koffiejunkie
Executive Member
Until they both reach the absolute limits of physics? My guess is that when they do, the difference between crop and full frame will be even bigger.
I think they'll phase out crop sensors in dSLRs before that.
The advantages of so called "full frame" sensors are the bigger pixels and the larger gap between them. This gap minimises the leakage current between the pixels (quantum tunneling) - the leakage current is responsible for the noise. As you crank up the ISO, you're cranking up the voltage across the sensor, giving rise to a higher chance of leakage currents.
The insulating materials used between the pixels may improve, but as the gap between the pixels gets smaller, the chance of quantum tunneling gets higher.
Did I write that?
The insulating materials used between the pixels may improve, but as the gap between the pixels gets smaller, the chance of quantum tunneling gets higher.
Did I write that?
koffiejunkie
Executive Member
Probably. At the moment, noise reduction is getting better faster than noise is getting higher with higher resolutions. But what NR can do will peak long before we've reach the limit of how many pixels we can squeeze onto a sensor. And I think the pixels will become too small to capture a usable amount of light before we hit those physical limits too.
ldmelsa
Executive Member
In the olden days there were no pro video cameras with chips smaller than 2/3", and those were SD. Today there are pro video cameras with 1/3" chips that are 1920x1080. The fact of the matter is its expensive to make chips. The bigger the chip, the more it costs to make. APS-C is a big chip to make, cost wise. Saying that they'll phase out APS-C is a bit premature. I might even go as far as to say they'll be making APS-C, and smaller chips, for a long time to come.
SubliminalThought
Senior Member
You could debate as much as you want from a technical perspective... reality is that its the market conditions and thus consumers which will ultimately dictate. If a majority of happy snappers pick up SLRs with smaller sensors and bodies it makes economical sense for the manufacturers to continue with the line.
koffiejunkie
Executive Member
That's more or less the same range as your kit lens - what would you gain?
ldmelsa
Executive Member
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Im a beginner damnit and I know next to F-all about lenses and the differnet things they do
Explain slowly and without too much scorn to my posts please
ldmelsa
Executive Member
Im a beginner damnit and I know next to F-all about lenses and the differnet things they do
Explain slowly and without too much scorn to my posts please
maybe I made a mistake about the compatibly of that lens on your d60, but even if it does auto focus & meter properly you've already got the 18-55 (which is great)
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm
ldmelsa
Executive Member
d40/60:
ultra wide: Nikon 10-24mm (DX lens)
mid range zoom: Nikon 18-55/VR (DX lens)
prime: Nikon 35mm1.8 (DX lens) / Nikon 50mm f/1.4 AF-S (only this 50mm AF on the D60 I think?)
one lens does all: Nikon 18-200VR (DX lens)
tele: Nikon 55-200VR (DX lens) / Nikon 70-300VR (FX {full frame} lens)
ultra wide: Nikon 10-24mm (DX lens)
mid range zoom: Nikon 18-55/VR (DX lens)
prime: Nikon 35mm1.8 (DX lens) / Nikon 50mm f/1.4 AF-S (only this 50mm AF on the D60 I think?)
one lens does all: Nikon 18-200VR (DX lens)
tele: Nikon 55-200VR (DX lens) / Nikon 70-300VR (FX {full frame} lens)
Me want!
mercurial
MyBB Legend
Guys, I need some assistance. I want to remove some colour from an image. Let's say that I want the background to be in black and white but I want the subjects (in this case, people), to be in colour. Is there a way to do that in CS4?
Quantum Theory
Executive Member
Google, selective colour photoshop tutorial. There should be loads of them.