GPU upgrade advice 7800XT vs 4070

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I'm struggling to decide between a 7800XT or 4070... Price difference is ±10% in favour of the 7800XT in my region (NL). Current GPU is ye ol faithful GTX970 kicking on 10 years old so this would be a huge upgrade :D

What I mostly play is city/building simulations and RTS when a good one rolls around, think of games such as Cities Skylines, Factorio (haha any GPU is overkill for this!), Dyson Sphere Program and perhaps some sim racing on the side in future. If something cool outside of these genres pops up on Game Pass I also give it a go (eg Starfield). This on a 4k monitor and frames above 60Hz are a bonus (I accept I'll trade image quality for fps if desired).

Or perhaps since my GPU is so old, I'll get an amazing upgrade by going previous gen while saving some moola?

PC specs: 5800X (will upgrade at some point to 7800X3D), 32GB RAM, 750W PSU, 2TB SSD
 
  • Faster than NVIDIA RTX 4070 and cheaper, too
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AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Review

With the Radeon RX 7800 XT, AMD is going after the GeForce RTX 4070. Our review confirms that AMD has achieved performance parity in rasterization and is pretty close in ray tracing, at a much better price point, and they are giving you 16 GB VRAM, instead of just 12 GB.
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Archer said:
I'm struggling to decide between a 7800XT or 4070... Price difference is ±10% in favour of the 7800XT in my region (NL). Current GPU is ye ol faithful GTX970 kicking on 10 years old so this would be a huge upgrade :D

What I mostly play is city/building simulations and RTS when a good one rolls around, think of games such as Cities Skylines, Factorio (haha any GPU is overkill for this!), Dyson Sphere Program and perhaps some sim racing on the side in future. If something cool outside of these genres pops up on Game Pass I also give it a go (eg Starfield). This on a 4k monitor and frames above 60Hz are a bonus (I accept I'll trade image quality for fps if desired).

Or perhaps since my GPU is so old, I'll get an amazing upgrade by going previous gen while saving some moola?

PC specs: 5800X (will upgrade at some point to 7800X3D), 32GB RAM, 750W PSU, 2TB SSD
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The 7800XT offers better overall performance.

Which 7800XT are you looking at? If you go 7800XT get the merc 319. Exceptional cooling and very quiet. Temps won't exceed 60 degrees at low fan rpm.

Since you already have an AMD setup, going with the 7800XT makes sense. You can take advantage of AMD's Smart Access Memory (SAM), which can boost your fps by 10-15% in certain games.

With both a 7800X3D and a 7800XT, you'll be able to enjoy most games at 4K resolution with a comfortable frame rate of 60+ fps.
 
Why not wait for the 4070 super or 4070 TI Super. Sure AMD will either cut prices or bring out something to match the 4070 super with atleast 16GB Vram.
 
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If you're purely in it for the gaming then go for the Radeon which is apparently faster. If you're into video editing, AI image generation, photography, graphics, etc - then the RTX (CUDA) gives you an advantage in that regard.
 
From my experience, those types of games are often CPU dependent more than GPU, but you're already fairly well sorted there. 5800X3D would be a good upgrade without having to replace the motherboard and RAM too.

As for the GPUs, the nVidia cards are typically more stable and less prone to issues, though AMD is fairly solid these days with weird behaviour being far less common.

The 7800XT is typically faster for rasterized performance. The 4070 will be faster if you use RT.
 
Quicks said:
Why not wait for the 4070 super or 4070 TI Super. Sure AMD will either cut prices or bring out something to match the 4070 super with atleast 16GB Vram.
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Hmm, not a bad idea since CES is next week. Even then the card will take some time to hit shelves, and pricing I find remains stable in EU (vs US where drops happen fast) so it's unlikely to sway me.
 
UrBaN963 said:
The 7800XT is typically faster for rasterized performance. The 4070 will be faster if you use RT.
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I've had a quick look and the 4070 only seems to beat the 7800XT marginally in cyberpunk and resident evil with RT enabled. All the other games the 7800XT is still on top.

Then again, these benchmarks are older and with improved drivers etc the results might be slightly different now.
 
UrBaN963 said:
From my experience, those types of games are often CPU dependent more than GPU, but you're already fairly well sorted there. 5800X3D would be a good upgrade without having to replace the motherboard and RAM too.

As for the GPUs, the nVidia cards are typically more stable and less prone to issues, though AMD is fairly solid these days with weird behaviour being far less common.

The 7800XT is typically faster for rasterized performance. The 4070 will be faster if you use RT.
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Playing DSP now, 20% CPU, 100% GPU and 100% VRAM :p But yes I know these game are typically CPU bound if one doesn't have a ridiculous CPU GPU mismatch like mine.

Think I'm mostly having the difficulty forking out the cash, I must just close my eyes and make the payment :p And if it holds 10 years like my current one then it's cheap! Heck this one will even go to the kids machine most likely.
 
Archer said:
Playing DSP now, 20% CPU, 100% GPU and 100% VRAM :p But yes I know these game are typically CPU bound if one doesn't have a ridiculous CPU GPU mismatch like mine.

Think I'm mostly having the difficulty forking out the cash, I must just close my eyes and make the payment :p And if it holds 10 years like my current one then it's cheap! Heck this one will even go to the kids machine most likely.
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HODOR!!!!!!!!

Wait for the Supers, may just get a better deal. But yea, definitely seems like your GPU is crying :D
 
UrBaN963 said:
As for the GPUs, the nVidia cards are typically more stable and less prone to issues, though AMD is fairly solid these days with weird behaviour being far less common.
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Go look up the 4000 series a bit more and even the 3060ti's. Failing memory, cracking pcb's, cracking gpu die's. Far less stable than they were during the old 1000/2000 series golden days.
 
Exaelea said:
Go look up the 4000 series a bit more and even the 3060ti's. Failing memory, cracking pcb's, cracking gpu die's. Far less stable than they were during the old 1000/2000 series golden days.
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Ran a 3070 for 3 years and now a 4070Ti. Nothing but sweet, sweet excellence. Both brands will have failures, that's why warranties and RMAs exist. I was referring to drivers and such, not hardware issues.
 
I regret my AMD GPU. I was convinced by a friend it's a lot cheaper for price per performance than Nvidia. So I bought one and low and behold, till this day I still struggle with random black screens.

Before you buy AMD, do yourself a favour and Google "AMD Black screen"
Did everything suggested by everyone.

It is mostly sorted, but still happens on occasion, and it's the most annoying thing. Never in my life will AMD see my money again.
 
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