GTI accident

qscwbt said:
accident time about 03h30
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Thought it was during the day?

Love how everyone in this thread jumps on the bandwagon of condemning speeding when I am sure every one of us has gone over the speed limit.
 
Pitbull said:
My BMW didn't deploy the passenger side due to the seatbelt not being worn (no occupants) but I guess not all cars are the same. In posting that I realised it's probably hard to judge anything with such an impact. If it's suppose to deploy it will with those forces :D
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Seatbelt not being used, or sensor in seat indicating that seat is empty and then not deploying airbag?
 
mbayshark said:
Seatbelt not being used, or sensor in seat indicating that seat is empty and then not deploying airbag?
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Yea, if there is no passenger there is no seatbelt warning that comes on. I have had it though where it comes on if I have some groceries on the seat. So it definitely has some sensor to indicate if there is a person in the seat or not.
 
There was no passenger in the car AFAIK.

And if a car's airbag does not deploy if the seatbelt isn't used, there is something wrong with the car.
 
Slootvreter said:
There was no passenger in the car AFAIK.

And if a car's airbag does not deploy if the seatbelt isn't used, there is something wrong with the car.
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I can confirm BMW doesn't but it could be a combination of the seat sensor and the seatbelt. No idea.
 
Slootvreter said:
There was no passenger in the car AFAIK.

And if a car's airbag does not deploy if the seatbelt isn't used, there is something wrong with the car.
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On the driver side sure, but passenger side? Those get deactivated all the time depending on many factors. For example:

The system determines whether the front passenger
seat is occupied by measuring the resistance
of the human body.
The front, knee, and side airbag on the front
passenger side are activated or deactivated
accordingly.
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Will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer I'm sure, read your owners manual
 
Anyone got a car they want to total at 180km/h to put this to the test?
 
Lupus said:
Blowout, swerved to avoid something, hasn't done any advanced driving. Who knows.
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How would advanced driving help you control a car that is moving at 180km/h and you presented with an unexpected event in a few microseconds. Even formula 1 cars have huge run off areas for those eventualities and it still can cause fatalities
 
qscwbt said:
I don't drive a golf so I am asking anyone driving one. is it possible for the needle to go in to the red rpm zone? or did the impact move the Needle. My car limits as soon as the needle hits the 8000 rpm red zone
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DSG shifts at +-6500.
 
So did some quick look ups on speedos getting stuck.
it seems its a 50/50 chance they accurate after a accident.

one the one side the speedo and ref counter works on stepper motors. they are sensitive and hard impact could "lock them in place". So can a power loss lock them as the needle need a signal to return to zero.

But a hard impact can move them. So if the ref and speedo gauge moved to the right why did the temp and fuel gauge not move?

They can however check the speed, as the airbag modules record certain data on a 'loop' system and things like speed, throttle position, brake effort, g forces inflicted etc etc are 'saved' in the event of a collision hard enough to deploy airbags or seatbelt pre - tensioners.

Does anyone have the gear ratio of the GTI. does the rpm and speed correlate lets say in 4th or 5th gear
 
qscwbt said:
So did some quick look ups on speedos getting stuck.
it seems its a 50/50 chance they accurate after a accident.

one the one side the speedo and ref counter works on stepper motors. they are sensitive and hard impact could "lock them in place". So can a power loss lock them as the needle need a signal to return to zero.

But a hard impact can move them. So if the ref and speedo gauge moved to the right why did the temp and fuel gauge not move?

They can however check the speed, as the airbag modules record certain data on a 'loop' system and things like speed, throttle position, brake effort, g forces inflicted etc etc are 'saved' in the event of a collision hard enough to deploy airbags or seatbelt pre - tensioners.

Does anyone have the gear ratio of the GTI. does the rpm and speed correlate lets say in 4th or 5th gear
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Close.

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https://youtu.be/tfcF80cDyc0?t=58
 
Mk7 GTI Gear Ratios
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final
6MT 3.76 2.03 1.46 1.08 0.88 0.74 3.42
DSG 2.92 1.79 1.14 0.78 0.58 0.46 4.77

Mk7 GTI ~Speed at redline (6300rpm)
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
6MT 39.46 73.10 101.63 137.39 168.62 200.52
DSG 36.43 59.44 93.32 136.40 183.43 231.28


Speedo looks like 6300rpm and speed 183 to 185kmh.
Looks scary acurate for dsg 5th gear speed and rpm.
Any input

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He must have been WOT in 5th gear.

So wonder what went wrong
Driving under the influence
Swerved for something
Texting distraction
The GTI had some mag wheel failures. Did a wheel collapse.

What ever happened he was definitely speeding. Does not matter how awesome your car is at speed your stopping distance increase significantly. He took a chance and it went pear shape.
 
qscwbt said:
Does anyone have the gear ratio of the GTI. does the rpm and speed correlate lets say in 4th or 5th gear
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that's closer to the top of 3rd gear, in 4th the revs should be much lower but I may be wrong, driving in the red line in third gear for any period would be weird and if he was accelerating then he would have been changing gears at that point
 
saturnz said:
that's closer to the top of 3rd gear, in 4th the revs should be much lower but I may be wrong, driving in the red line in third gear for any period would be weird and if he was accelerating then he would have been changing gears at that point
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Mk7 GTI ~Speed at redline (6300rpm)
1st 2nd 3rd 4t 5th 6th
6MT 39.46 73.10 101.63 137.39 168.62 200.52
DSG 36.43 59.44 93.32 136.40 183.43 231.28
 
On another forum people are debating the guard rail design and how its compliance/non added to the severity of the damage.

How the armco was on the accident side.

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vs how is was on the other side of the same hiway.

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He ripped the armco right out of the ground. Would have made zero difference
 
skeptic_SA said:
That's part of the discussion. Armco support posts are possibly not to spec wrt quantity/quality and distance they are spaced apart leading to the bridge parapet.
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Guard rail can make a world of difference to the outcome of an accident
[video=youtube;UB5uDkA3Szs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5uDkA3Szs[/video]
 
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