Guantaamo Bay

[Pixie22]

"And how are you supposed to prove that they did any of these things without a trial? Actually, nevermind, I like this game. Pixie, I find you guilty of being an utter idiot. No trial is neccessary, the punishment is a ritual bogwashing. I trust you'll carry out the sentence, since I just used your logic to come to an irrefutable judgement."

Never said it was right lol But they are fighting fire with fire, and people are whining that its unfair lol


"But no one claims to be doing that crap to protect freedoms, either. Last I saw, Egypt/Syria/Saudi Arabia weren't mouthing off how they're protecting the free world by torturing these guys. But who knows, I could be wrong. Feel free to find sources to prove otherwise"

Bwahaahahahahahahaha! If you actually believe any bs the USA says about doing things for the "good of humanity" then you are a complete idiot anyway. anyway, the terrorists are saying the same thing. They are fighting a holy war against the devils and they are protecting their people against slaughter right? Infact they are only prolonging the suffering of the people, and making sht worse and they know it.

 

[Devill]

Yeah you are right, they are different cases, but what can you do against the US of A? They ownage this Earth at current

as for your suggestion about staying out of the middle east.. I don't agree with that at all. BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH are hit down in that part of the world. and if the ME is so stubborn as to let things escalate to war over not implementing basic rights then so be it. They will lose and they will bring the loss on themselves and their innocent civilians willingly. Thats always been their problem.. They are so foolish.

Im all for a one world government btw

lol, yeah you see the problem is that some people dont want the american way of life forced on them

 

[Devill]

Musttafah: Hey, Yussuf...
Yussuf: Yebo, waz up Musttafah?
Musttafah: I feel a bit miffed, dont you?
Yussuf: You feel miffed, how come?
Musttafah: Its these Infidel Americans Yussuf. Teaching our woman that they are equal, and this nonsense about human rights, I tell you, I am just so miffed!
Yussuf: Hey I agree, I feel miffed to now, lets do something!
Musttafah: Hey I know, lets go plant a car bomb and kill some innocent civillians, that will teach these Americans a lesson

6/4/2008 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Twenty-five Iraqis are killed in two explosions, one caused by a truck carrying weapons for Shia militia in a residential area.

Yussuf: I sure hope the Americans have learnt their lesson now!!

Are you really this dumb?

So the americans that bombed the cities back to the stone age only hit "the bad guys" ?

LMFAO you are a real intellectual find my friend

 

[CyraxHB]

That camp is not even necessary, those terrorist should get a bullet between the eyes as soon as they are captured.

 

[Ou grote]

in case you didnt read:

You know what prisoners call Guantanamo among themselves? Al muntazah al-dini lilmujaheden al Moslemin, The Religious Resort for Islamic Militants.

and

They are given three halal (Moslem kosher) meals a day in accordance to their religious dictates.

and

They have radio, television, soccer games, air-conditioning, clean clothes

No bacon?
Ok, I'll talk...

 

[Ou grote]

in case you didnt read:

You know what prisoners call Guantanamo among themselves? Al muntazah al-dini lilmujaheden al Moslemin, The Religious Resort for Islamic Militants.

and

They are given three halal (Moslem kosher) meals a day in accordance to their religious dictates.

and

They have radio, television, soccer games, air-conditioning, clean clothes

No bacon?
WTF is this "macon" stuff?
Ok dammit, I'll talk...

 

[lived666]

Are you really this dumb?

So the americans that bombed the cities back to the stone age only hit "the bad guys" ?

LMFAO you are a real intellectual find my friend

Dude, no need to get rude and personal.
The daily killings of Muslims by other Muslims is a fact. You can try and ignore it, or divert attention by saying but gosh the Americans do this or that, the fact is that not a day goes by where a Muslim is not killed by another Muslim.

 

[Alan]

then why did they let them go if the "proof" was so convincing.

lol um they are all still being held.

Lol, and why are they fighting two wars again?

Ps IF like lived666 said the SA army can invade Zim and clean it up why cant the americans do it....with 1% of their giant, highly trained army?

Honestly stupidity knows no bounds. Why are the hypocrites not requesting French, German, Swedish.... intervention.

Are you really this dumb?

So the americans that bombed the cities back to the stone age only hit "the bad guys" ?

LMFAO you are a real intellectual find my friend

And which city might that be?

LOL @Xarog back from an al quds training camp with severe eye spams

 

[Devill]

"And how are you supposed to prove that they did any of these things without a trial? Actually, nevermind, I like this game. Pixie, I find you guilty of being an utter idiot. No trial is neccessary, the punishment is a ritual bogwashing. I trust you'll carry out the sentence, since I just used your logic to come to an irrefutable judgement."

Never said it was right lol But they are fighting fire with fire, and people are whining that its unfair lol


"But no one claims to be doing that crap to protect freedoms, either. Last I saw, Egypt/Syria/Saudi Arabia weren't mouthing off how they're protecting the free world by torturing these guys. But who knows, I could be wrong. Feel free to find sources to prove otherwise"

Bwahaahahahahahahaha! If you actually believe any bs the USA says about doing things for the "good of humanity" then you are a complete idiot anyway. anyway, the terrorists are saying the same thing. They are fighting a holy war against the devils and they are protecting their people against slaughter right? Infact they are only prolonging the suffering of the people, and making sht worse and they know it.

Lol i dont want to protect the actual religious fanatics or the "jihad that western gofless piece off shlt" types but what the US is doing is also wrong and they are just terrorists calling themselves "World saviors"

 

[Xarog]

Yeah you are right, they are different cases, but what can you do against the US of A? They ownage this Earth at current

as for your suggestion about staying out of the middle east.. I don't agree with that at all. BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH are hit down in that part of the world. and if the ME is so stubborn as to let things escalate to war over not implementing basic rights then so be it. They will lose and they will bring the loss on themselves and their innocent civilians willingly. Thats always been their problem.. They are so foolish.

Im all for a one world government btw

If the US is so pro-freedom, why do they prop up the House of Saud? If they're so pro freedom, why do they support bastards like Saddam Hussein and the Shah of Iran and Pinochet?

Musttafah: Hey, Yussuf...
Yussuf: Yebo, waz up Musttafah?
Musttafah: I feel a bit miffed, dont you?
Yussuf: You feel miffed, how come?
Musttafah: Its these Infidel Americans Yussuf. [-]Teaching our woman that they are equal, and this nonsense about human rights,[/-] Installing murderous "royal" lines, propping up psychopaths, I tell you, I am just so miffed![/-]

Fixed it for you.

"And how are you supposed to prove that they did any of these things without a trial? Actually, nevermind, I like this game. Pixie, I find you guilty of being an utter idiot. No trial is neccessary, the punishment is a ritual bogwashing. I trust you'll carry out the sentence, since I just used your logic to come to an irrefutable judgement."

Never said it was right lol But they are fighting fire with fire, and people are whining that its unfair lol

So your argument is that because they do it, it's also ok for us to do it? So the problem, according to you, is not what they did, just that they did it first?

"But no one claims to be doing that crap to protect freedoms, either. Last I saw, Egypt/Syria/Saudi Arabia weren't mouthing off how they're protecting the free world by torturing these guys. But who knows, I could be wrong. Feel free to find sources to prove otherwise"

Bwahaahahahahahahaha! If you actually believe any bs the USA says about doing things for the "good of humanity" then you are a complete idiot anyway.

I agree completely. Sadly though, religious zealots like AlanF actually believe the propaganda.

anyway, the terrorists are saying the same thing. They are fighting a holy war against the devils and they are protecting their people against slaughter right? Infact they are only prolonging the suffering of the people, and making sht worse and they know it.

Strawman.

 

[Pixie22]

lol, yeah you see the problem is that some people dont want the american way of life forced on them

Yeah, well those people are the problem. They don't want human rights, cause they are the ones contributing from a lack of them atm

Noone is suggesting arabs playing baseball lol Nothing to do with American way of life really, its equal standing for all human beings, races, genders etc.

Some would suggest they were already in the stone age, looking at their treatment of woman, their intolerance of opinion, their distribution of wealth, their lack of human rights... eish..

 

[Devill]

lol um they are all still being held.


And which city might that be?
LOL @Xarog back from an al quds training camp with severe eye spams

AGAIN YOU DONT READ...there was 3 people held for no apparent reason and then let go after being held for a time.....but no alan doesnt want to debate he wants to preach....lol....wake the fock up and read before you make statements like this because now you are no better then the "jihad that western infidel" types....

Maybe here are some towns and cities in the mix = http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=e...t=result&cd=1&q=air+strike+on+baghdad&spell=1

 

[Devill]

Yeah, well those people are the problem. They don't want human rights, cause they are the ones contributing from a lack of them atm

Noone is suggesting arabs playing baseball lol Nothing to do with American way of life really, its equal standing for all human beings, races, genders etc.

Some would suggest they were already in the stone age, looking at their treatment of woman, their intolerance of opinion, their distribution of wealth, their lack of human rights... eish..

Again if this was the USA's real intent then why have they done nothing for Zim?

 

[Alan]

If the US is so pro-freedom, why do they prop up the House of Saud? If they're so pro freedom, why do they support bastards like Saddam Hussein and the Shah of Iran and Pinochet?

Same reason why they helped Stalin.

AGAIN YOU DONT READ...there was 3 people held for no apparent reason and then let go after being held for a time.....but no alan doesnt want to debate he wants to preach....lol....wake the fock up and read before you make statements like this because now you are no better then the "jihad that western infidel" types....

Getting twitchy are we.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Rahim_al-Nashiri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Zubaydah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Al-Quds_brigades

There read for yourself if you don't believe me

 

[Pixie22]

"So your argument is that because they do it, it's also ok for us to do it? So the problem, according to you, is not what they did, just that they did it first?"

My point is, we should be complaining about both sides.

 

[Pixie22]

Again if this was the USA's real intent then why have they done nothing for Zim?

Its not the USA's real intent.

 

[Xarog]

"So your argument is that because they do it, it's also ok for us to do it? So the problem, according to you, is not what they did, just that they did it first?"

My point is, we should be complaining about both sides.

My point is, the complaints are proportional to the chest thumping that the particular side gets. If everyone was going on about how virtuous the muslims all were, then we'd see them catch way more flak on these forums than they currently do.

 

[lived666]

Again if this was the USA's real intent then why have they done nothing for Zim?

Very simple - USA can't assist with its military in Zim without the co-operation of the region. SA does not see an issue in Zim, so we would probably not let them dock here, use our rail system and offer any assistance with what ever logistics they would require.
If the leaders in the region see no problem, then what do you really expect the USA to do?

 

[Devill]

Lol, wow you are a smart one?

Would love to see your face if they dragged off your mother, father, brother........It has been proven that torture confessions are useless yet the USA still prosecute people based on it.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/28/60minutes/main3976928.shtml

http://www.amnestyusa.org/Spring_2008/Five_Years_of_My_Life/page.do?id=1551002&n1=2&n2=19&n3=1552

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2169795.ece

http://www.guantanamo.org.uk/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=98

Just go have a look at these four sites of peoples lives that the USA focked up by detaining them without due cause .......

Here alan READ these please before making dumb statements again.......

See 3 people the usa wantsto/have let go

So no im not getting twitchy i just dont like idiots like you who dont read the other peoples posts but still expect them to take you seriously

 

[Devill]

Very simple - USA can't assist with its military in Zim without the co-operation of the region. SA does not see an issue in Zim, so we would probably not let them dock here, use our rail system and offer any assistance with what ever logistics they would require.
If the leaders in the region see no problem, then what do you really expect the USA to do?

mmmmmm, didnt really seem to stop them when they did not have the UN's OK to go bomb the shlt out of iraq did it?