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isie
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added to Halaal friendly list
Get gourmet halaal food and price can be higher than average you will still have a good client base.
Places like signature, pigale & kream have a large Muslim client base but only eat seafood.
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Guys. What's your opinions on halaal "friendly" non-Muslim owned places that may or may not have a certificate versus strictly halaal.
I travel a lot and most non-South African Muslims in the world follow the concept that food from the yahood and nasara are permissible.
Maybe @wayfarer can reply and I'll link this post to his thread.
I travel a lot and most non-South African Muslims in the world follow the concept that food from the yahood and nasara are permissible.
Maybe @wayfarer can reply and I'll link this post to his thread.
falcon786
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Well I know that Kosher is well "kosher" and basically halaal.
Not sure about others mentioned but I have found non south african muslims even a Palestinian guy I knew to have that kind of attitude to meat where if its chicken some of them just claim its halaal,guy used to eat almost everywhere in SA if it was chicken.
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??wtf
He's obviously trolling.
Nah hes bored and too much time on his hands.
Mk786
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If its "halaal" and they sell alcohol. Rather stay away.
Mk786
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Halaal and Kosher
Q: Can you please advise me if a product is certified as kosher, whether it is Halaal.
Some people have said that the process of certifying a product is kosher is much more stringent than the halaal certification.
I have also been told that Allah (S.W.T.) states in the Quraan (Sura Al - Maida, verse 6) that one is allowed to eat the meat of the people of the book (Being Jews and Christians). Does this mean that if a product is kosher that they have taken the name of The Lord (Allah S.W.T.) whilst slaughtering.
Thus can one partake of kosher products and also eat at restaurants certified as kosher because it is my understanding that kosher certified restaurants also do not serve pork or alcohol.
Answer:
The question of reliance on a kosher stamp as a guarantee on the Halaal status is hazardous and a slippery slope to follow, a path that we cannot unconditionally recommend.
Whilst there are similarities in certain of the rituals, there are many differences that one may not be aware off, some of which we list below.
? Kosher meat cannot be regarded Halaal, since the present day Jewish method of slaughter in an abattoir environment does not include the recitation of the name of the Almighty upon each animal which is a requirement for Halaal slaughter.
? Islam prohibits all intoxicating alcohol whilst wines manufactured under rabbinic supervision and other intoxicating beverages such as beers and rum etc. are regarded as kosher. The kosher mark cannot make it Halaal.
? Islam considers the entire cattle as Halaal if it is slaughtered in accordance to the Shari'ah whilst according to Jews the hind quarter is forbidden.
? Gelatin is considered kosher by some Jewish authorities regardless of its source of origin. Muslims consider gelatin prepared from pork as Haraam and most Halaal authorities also do not accept gelatin from non-Halaal slaughtered animal origin as being Halaal either. Therefore food items that could contain gelatin with kosher symbols on products such as marshmallows, yoghurts etc are not automatically Halaal.
? Enzymes irrespective of their source are acceptable in cheese making and carry the kosher symbol whilst enzymes of pork origin are Haraam to Muslims.
? Jewish law permits use of pork bristle brush in food preparation whilst it is Haraam for Muslims.
Muslims accept and believe as an article of faith, the role of all the previous Prophets (Peace be upon them) and the scriptures revealed through them, it relies on the final verse of the final revelation revealed to the final Prophet (Peace be upon him) in his farewell pilgrimage to put matters into its proper perspective.
In the verse revealed it was stated "...this day have I perfected your religion for you and completed my favour upon you and chosen for you Islam as your religion." (Surah 5: Verse 3)
The final divine laws of Islam are indeed perfect and best for followers. Consumption of Halaal increases spirituality and benefits us both now and in the Hereafter. There is no need to be dependent on any other sets of laws for convenience.
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This is not a reliable source as it's biased by SANHA.
Also the arguments and examples used are weak and nonsensical esp the points I've extracted.
1. At the time of the verse the Jews were then not reciting the name of Allah in any case
2. We are not talking about alcohol in the kosher food just meat itself.
Alcohol can be added to halal meat but that is still impermissible.
3. Again. This has no bearing on the verse as this concept existed for the Jews in any case.
4. There is no quranic or Hadith reference to enzymes (pig or otherwise) used in food. One cannot make things haraam that are not explicitly mentioned as such.
5. No quranic or Hadith reference to this.
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But having seafood where alcohol is sold is ok??
wayfarer
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It is safest to stick to certified places.
However, it is permissible to eat meat that is traditionally permissible for Jews and Christians. Many modern-day Jews and Christians consume food that are not traditionally permissible to them. So that becomes a problem. For example, pork is prohibited by the Old Testament, and while many Christians honour this prohibition, others feel that it has been abrogated.
Food of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) that is permissible basically means halal animals that have been slaughtered in a sound manner (by Jews or Christians), and that have not been contaminated with meat not slaughtered soundly, or other non-permissible foods such as pork or alcohol.
Grant
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i want to jump in quickly.
surely a halaal restaurant cannot not stock alcohol.
it (to my mind) would be the entire restaurant that is considered a halaal environment, not just the food served within the restaurant.
a restaurant may serve halaal meals from certified products, but if non halaal items like alcohol for example, are on the premises, there is the risk of cross contamination.
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I was being sarcastic here.
I see many Muslims frequent places like ocean basket where there is no meat but alcohol served and they think it's acceptable.
Grant
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wooooosh
well, that went right over my head
i'm never the sharpest pencil in the box on a sunday !
Hamish McPanji
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I don't mind this so much. I see halaal as one of the first food hygiene standards of its time....and I think the lesson must be learnt from that.
There are a lot of halaal certified restaurants where although the meat might be halaal and no alcohol is served, the state of the kitchen, cutlery and crockery are such that as far as I am concerned they are not halaal.
On the other side of the coin, there are non halaal seafood only and veg restaurants where you could probably eat off the kitchen floor....but because of the fact that they serve alcohol they are somehow deemed to be unacceptable. This although their crockery and cutlery is cleaned thoroughly and spotless and their kitchen management is perfection.
Where would I likely takemy family for a meal?