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Vis1/0N said:
The 6TB - I have copied 1TB from my 2.5" drive so far, 3.5 hours. Another 1TB to go. Up from 20MB/s to between 70-110MB/s after enabling disk write caching.
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If you're copying large files (e.g. 3 GB or bigger for instance) from an modern internal hard drive to a usb 3 ext drive you should be getting 110MB/s on average. I am getting round about this on my 6TB and 8TB seagate expansion drives without changing any write caching.

Did another test copying from one ext usb3 to another ext usb3 hd having both plugged into usb 3 ports and was averaging 70MB /s copying large files

Swa said:
Sounds about right for a 2TB drive. What I'm interested in seeing is how long it takes to copy 6TB from one drive to another.
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Not really about the size of the drive but which speed the usb ports and speed the ext drives are. Lots of small files will influence total time needed for copying over 6TB a lot.
If you theoretically only had HD movie files (which is around 3GB each) on a 6TB it would be around 6000GB / 100MB/s = 60000s = 1000 min = 16 hours
 
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enerdude said:
Not really about the size of the drive but which speed the usb ports and speed the ext drives are. Lots of small files will influence total time needed for copying over 6TB a lot.
If you theoretically only had HD movie files (which is around 3GB each) on a 6TB it would be around 6000GB / 100MB/s = 60000s = 1000 min = 16 hours
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My WD and Seagate 2TB is around 60MB/s and takes 6 hours to do a clone. Internal.

Was wondering how long a 6TB takes as more platters usually equals more speed.
 
Swa said:
My WD and Seagate 2TB is around 60MB/s and takes 6 hours to do a clone. Internal.

Was wondering how long a 6TB takes as more platters usually equals more speed.
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Yeah cloning is a different scenario though. I have found acronis to be very efficient.
With cloning you can do disk / partition cloning or for instance sector-sector cloning which would take much longer.
Seeing that its internal it also depends on the speed of your SATA controller which is usually not a bottleneck for hds but more for SSDs
 
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enerdude said:
Yeah cloning is a different scenario though. I have found acronis to be very efficient.
With cloning you can do disk / partition cloning or for instance sector-sector cloning which would take much longer.
Seeing that its internal it also depends on the speed of your SATA controller which is usually not a bottleneck for hds but more for SSDs
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I'm using Winhex. It does simultaneous transfer so is more or less equal to write caching. In some aspects it works better when copying an entire drive and I can't notice any difference in speed compared to copying large files with write caching. Only difference will come in when you don't need to copy an entire drive but for a bunch of small files that may even take longer.
 
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Swa said:
I'm using Winhex. It does simultaneous transfer so is more or less equal to write caching. In some aspects it works better when copying an entire drive and I can't notice any difference in speed compared to copying large files with write caching. Only difference will come in when you don't need to copy an entire drive but for a bunch of small files that may even take longer.
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Winhex does sector-sector cloning which is slower. If you use cloning software like acronis true image you can do disk / partition cloning which is much faster.
Sector-sector cloning is useful in scenarios where you need a 1:1 copy e.g. some software's copy protection methods write to a sector outside the filesystem which needs to be transferred as well.
These days disk / partition cloning is usually enough when upgrading to a larger hard drive and needing to clone the drive.
 
ld13 said:
Till you have to pay for the toner...
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Well, I'm considering grabbing one and holding it until generics become available. Only thing is, I currently have a CISS inkjet, so I'll miss being able to print in colour, even if the quality isn't the best.
 
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applesf2 said:
Or you can buy 6 printers and use the free toners. It's cheaper than buying the toner lol
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Good idea although if they are like the hp printers they give you a lower yield cartridge with the new printer. I see the new cartridges yields about 3000 pages. Might still be worth it if you just get half that though
 
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enerdude said:
Winhex does sector-sector cloning which is slower. If you use cloning software like acronis true image you can do disk / partition cloning which is much faster.
Sector-sector cloning is useful in scenarios where you need a 1:1 copy e.g. some software's copy protection methods write to a sector outside the filesystem which needs to be transferred as well.
These days disk / partition cloning is usually enough when upgrading to a larger hard drive and needing to clone the drive.
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I'm not sure how that works. I assume it only copies occupied sectors? Thing is the disk is encrypted and the software has no knowledge of what's on the disk. Unless I mount both disks and do a copy like that.
 
Swa said:
I'm not sure how that works. I assume it only copies occupied sectors? Thing is the disk is encrypted and the software has no knowledge of what's on the disk. Unless I mount both disks and do a copy like that.
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Not sure cause I think you get different kind of encryption software / methods. If there is no proper file / partition framework you are probably better off using sector-sector. One can obviously test it by trying the partition clone method and see if it works and if so, use it in future to speed up the process.
 
applesf2 said:
Or you can buy 6 printers and use the free toners. It's cheaper than buying the toner lol
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I highly doubt that it includes a full toner tank. Most likely 1/3 or 1/4 full. "Starter Tanks" have been a thing for many years now. Still maybe worth it if you were considering buying genuine tanks.
 
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Anyone know where i can get the acer aspire spin 311 Chromebook for a good price checked google but nothing nice popping up, price wise , not keen on paying R8000+- for Chromebook for niece for school
 
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