Hawks nab terrorist suspects

yebocan said:
Well, looks like a bloody suicide vest to me....

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http://www.enca.com/south-africa/shocking-evidence-of-thulsie-twins-terror-plans-revealed-in-court
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The documents including photographs of the twins wearing a suicide vest were presented by the state on Friday morning at the Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court.

This is after prosecutors were asked to prove that they had enough evidence to justify the arrest of the so-called ‘terror twins’ on Thursday.
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This is interesting, reading through the photographed documents,

Prosecutor Chris MacAdam has indicated that the state will apply for some of this documentation not to be made public.
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ellyally said:
True... just wondering why the dude on left is holding that wire/tube/cable thing like he's detonating it
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Probably just messing around. That's the tube that connects the gun to the gas canister.

The only damage they could do with this set up is blow up the CO2/Air canister with something.
 
FoXtroT said:
Probably just messing around. That's the tube that connects the gun to the gas canister.

The only damage they could do with this set up is blow up the CO2/Air canister with something.
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Thanks(not a paintballer so didn't know what it was)
 
Honestly if these pictures are the lynchpin in the states case, they are complete and utter morons.
 
FoXtroT said:
Honestly if these pictures are the lynchpin in the states case, they are complete and utter morons.
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Basically the state is going with a propaganda campaign. Whether the equipment posed with are used with recreational purposes or not, the appearance demonstrates a terrorist activity.

The state in summary accused the two in advancing terrorist activities,

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going back to this,

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Thulsie Twins: State reveals details of planned suicide, payment from IS

Olivier says evidence already obtained shows that the pair communicated with people outside of South Africa who have strong links to the Islamic State.

He says one of the brothers allegedly opened up a bank account into which an Islamic State member deposited funds.

The twins made two attempts to leave South Africa for Syria within a three-month period.
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More at: http://ewn.co.za/2016/07/29/Thulsie...from-IS?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
Thulsie twins investigator never saw ISIS posts

Johannesburg - The defence in case of the Johannesburg twins accused of planning terrorist attacks has claimed that leading investigator Wynand Olivier was misleading the court.

Advocate Anneline Van den Heever, for Brandon-Lee and Tony-Lee Thulsie, on Monday asked the State to produce documents which support claims against the twins. The matter is being heard in the Johannesburg Magistrate’s court.

The twins, who were arrested last month, are accused of plotting a terror attack in which they allegedly planned to detonate explosions at a US Mission in South Africa and at Jewish institutions in the country.

Earlier, Van den Heever insisted that the siblings had wanted to visit Turkey for an interview in order to emigrate there, and not to join ISIS.
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More at: http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/thulsie-twins-investigator-never-saw-isis-posts-2052061
 
Thulsie twins’ pal spilt beans on 'terror plot'

Johannesburg - Information supplied to the police by a confidant of the twins who have been accused of terrorism, as well as items found inside their Joburg homes, led to their arrests.

State witness Ronaldo Smith also allegedly attempted to travel to Turkey and ultimately Syria to join Islamic State with Brandon-Lee and Tony-Lee Thulsie.

But when Smith’s home was raided on the same day as the twins, he turned State witness and confessed several details to police about the twins’ alleged terrorism plot.

This included that one of them was building an explosive device and looking for a trigger mechanism to set it off.

The revelations were made by Hawks Detective Warrant Officer Wynand Olivier, who testified in the Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court on Monday about the legality of the twins’ arrests and detention.
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More at : http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/thulsie-twins-pal-spilt-beans-on-terror-plot-2052355
 
Police were exercising their right by arresting Thulsie twins – prosecutor

Johannesburg – Police were merely exercising their right when they arrested the Thulsie twins, the Johannesburg Magistrate's Court heard on Thursday.

Prosecutor Chris MacAdam told Magistrate Pieter du Plessis that the three officers who arrested Brandon-Lee and Tony-Lee Thulsie did so based on the suspicion that they had committed a serious offence.

Late on Thursday afternoon, Colonel Andre Neethling, a provincial investigator of crimes against the state, took the stand to testify against the 23-year-old twins.

They were in court in an attempt to have their arrests declared unlawful.

Neethling said he went to the house of Tony-Lee, where he met the investigating officer, Warrant Officer Wynand Olivier. Olivier told him that a witness, Renaldo Smith, acknowledged that he and the brothers were part of a group who wanted to leave South Africa to join terror group, the Islamic State (ISIS).

The twins were allegedly plotting attacks on a US embassy and Jewish cultural sites in South Africa. They were arrested during raids in Newclare and Azaadville on Saturday, July 9. They face three counts of contravening the Protection of Constitutional Democracy Against Terrorist and Related Activities Act.

On Monday, the court heard that Tony-Lee, using the alias Simba, allegedly communicated via social media with an Isis member planning an attack in South Africa.

Neethling told the court on Thursday that he believed this was valuable information and enough to execute an arrest without a warrant.

According to him, the officers decided to give Smith, who turned State witness, a warning.

Earlier on Thursday, Olivier told the court that no explosives were found at any of the houses searched.

The matter was postponed to Friday, where final arguments would be represented.

News24
Link: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...y-arresting-thulsie-twins-prosecutor-20160804
 
Terror-accused Thulsie twins remain behind bars

Johannesburg - The terror-accused Thulsie brothers will have to wait until August 15 to hear if their arrests were lawfully executed.

Their lawyer presented closing arguments in the Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court, in their application to have their arrests declared unlawful.

“You cannot arrest people on far-fetched allegations,” Anneline van den Heever told the court.

Brandon-Lee and Tony-Lee Thulsi, 23, sat quietly in the dock, only waving to family members as they were taken to the cells. If their application succeeded, they would avoid a bail application in which they had to prove exceptional circumstances existed to justify their release.

Van den Heever said the twins’ right to be presumed innocent had been violated. She said investigating officer, Warrant Officer Wynand Olivier, could not explain what offence the brothers allegedly committed by trying to cross the border into Mozambique, in an apparent bid to get to Turkey.

They were allegedly on their way to Syria to meet members of terror group Isil.

Van den Heever said investigators gave multiple accounts of why the decision was made to arrest them.

“It is abundantly clear they had nothing more than third- and fourth-hand information. I submit there was not one iota of factual information.”

Magistrate Pieter du Plessis said he would hand down his ruling on August 15. The court was not sitting next week and he said he did not want to make a hasty decision.

The twins were allegedly plotting attacks on a US embassy and Jewish cultural sites in South Africa. They were arrested during raids in Newclare and Azaadville on Saturday July 9.

They face three counts of contravening the Protection of Constitutional Democracy Against Terrorist and Related Activities Act.

News24
Link: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/terror-accused-thulsie-twins-remain-behind-bars-20160805
 
Thulsie twins’ arrest was lawful, court rules

Johannesburg - The lawyer of the terror-accused Thulsie twins is not taking Monday's loss lying down and is going all the way to the high court for her clients.

As soon as magistrate Pieter du Plessis pronounced that the arrest of the twins had in fact been executed lawfully, Annelene van den Heever immediately stood up and said they were to approach the high court.

Van den Heever believes that her clients were arrested unlawfully and wants the high court to rule on that despite Du Plessis's ruling.

However, Du Plessis said Van den Heever could approach the high court only after the twins' bail application had been heard.
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More at: http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/thulsie-twins-arrest-was-lawful-court-rules-2057085
 
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