IEC opens up website

What the hell is that!? 3 Million for this? There has to be some dodgy BEE crap going on.
 
no i got a better idea :P

will place it here when its done...just rashing my designer to finish quickly :P
 
k so in reading the article again it says they budgeted R3million for this... actual cost is not listed... :-/
 
Now this... This is the outmost disgusting thing a single man in our ciuntry could do on a computer. Stealing R3Million (approximately) is just shocking. i think whoever budgeted for this needs to have his/her/their skills looked at again.
 
Check your facts before making uninformed criticism

To all the critics on this article, I appreciate you concerns, if that was a fact and true I would equally be horrified, unfortunately your concerns are based on incorrect information and I am disappointed that before expressing your anger and alleging corruption, you did not have the decency of establishing the correctness of the information you are responding to.

For your information the cross-browser compatible version of the IEC website that was published recently is a product of a sub-project whose deliverable was to make the current website cross-browser compatible, besides compatibility nothing more has changed, the look and content remains as it has been before. Most importantly it cost way below 10% of the figure that most of you are complaining about.

The figure of R3 million that has been bandied around relates to the total project of revamping the website, based on a complete redesign and redevelopment of the website, streamlining and standardising presentation and content management, though the use of modern content management tools and systems.

I am open would welcome open and honest criticism that is based correct facts, at time we learn and grow from factual and honest criticism. I can assure everybody that there is no corruption involved, the IEC is proud of its open, fair and transparent procurement processes.

The project has nothing to do with government and the IEC can proudly say we are amongst a few public sector institutions that implemented one of best systems and processes in order to minimize the risk of corruption by implementing the most open and transparent procurement processes ever seen in both the public and private sector.

Once more please take note that iec.org.za an intranet portal restricted to internal usage and it works very well.
 
Regardless of what was paid for the project the site definitely leaves a lot to be desired. Visually it just seems like something any high school kid would be able to throw together. I also can't see why cross-browser compatibility would have been an issue if the site adhered to web standards from the very start.

That being said, I don't know what goes on behind the scenes (Databases etc.) but the visual side appearance can definitely be improved.
 
I can't think of any software developed for a website that should cost R3 mil... you might reach that number with a lot of hardware...but for software alone...never ever...unless if you're being scammed
 
Libisi said:
To all the critics on this article, I appreciate you concerns, if that was a fact and true I would equally be horrified, unfortunately your concerns are based on incorrect information and I am disappointed that before expressing your anger and alleging corruption, you did not have the decency of establishing the correctness of the information you are responding to.

For your information the cross-browser compatible version of the IEC website that was published recently is a product of a sub-project whose deliverable was to make the current website cross-browser compatible, besides compatibility nothing more has changed, the look and content remains as it has been before. Most importantly it cost way below 10% of the figure that most of you are complaining about.

The figure of R3 million that has been bandied around relates to the total project of revamping the website, based on a complete redesign and redevelopment of the website, streamlining and standardising presentation and content management, though the use of modern content management tools and systems.

I am open would welcome open and honest criticism that is based correct facts, at time we learn and grow from factual and honest criticism. I can assure everybody that there is no corruption involved, the IEC is proud of its open, fair and transparent procurement processes.

The project has nothing to do with government and the IEC can proudly say we are amongst a few public sector institutions that implemented one of best systems and processes in order to minimize the risk of corruption by implementing the most open and transparent procurement processes ever seen in both the public and private sector.

Once more please take note that iec.org.za an intranet portal restricted to internal usage and it works very well.
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Whatever that means - it's still a crap site.
 
Is it too much to ask for non-Microsoft documents? Maybe... even pdf? Or am I pushing when I'm asking for ODF document :D Word documents open "fine" in OpenOffice, but wouldn't it be nice if that 3 million didn't go to M$ and out the country? ;)
 
Libisi said:
To all the critics on this article, I appreciate you concerns, if that was a fact and true I would equally be horrified, unfortunately your concerns are based on incorrect information and I am disappointed that before expressing your anger and alleging corruption, you did not have the decency of establishing the correctness of the information you are responding to.
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We were told, R3 million into the website. So, you are saying that IEC lied to us? well, that's even more comforting to know that our IEC releases false information.

For your information the cross-browser compatible version of the IEC website that was published recently is a product of a sub-project whose deliverable was to make the current website cross-browser compatible, besides compatibility nothing more has changed, the look and content remains as it has been before. Most importantly it cost way below 10% of the figure that most of you are complaining about.
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Considering that R3 million was budgeted, and only R300 000 was paid to the web... designers.... shows that R2.7 Million is "missing", even more re-assuring from our IEC

The figure of R3 million that has been bandied around relates to the total project of revamping the website, based on a complete redesign and redevelopment of the website, streamlining and standardising presentation and content management, though the use of modern content management tools and systems.
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Which was never done.

I am open would welcome open and honest criticism that is based correct facts, at time we learn and grow from factual and honest criticism. I can assure everybody that there is no corruption involved, the IEC is proud of its open, fair and transparent procurement processes.
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Criticism is this: to make the website FF compliant, you could get a fresh out of varsity guy to do it all, within a month, for R10K. Fact it took 10% [or R300K] is shocking.

The project has nothing to do with government and the IEC can proudly say we are amongst a few public sector institutions that implemented one of best systems and processes in order to minimize the risk of corruption by implementing the most open and transparent procurement processes ever seen in both the public and private sector.
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Website is still ugly, which shows the unprofessional attitude IEC has. IEC's outward appearance [via websites and other sources] has an influence on people's perceptions of IEC. The internet isn't new, IEC has had more than 4 years to create a website worth looking at.

Once more please take note that iec.org.za an intranet portal restricted to internal usage and it works very well.
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So what does this have to do with the external systems? The external systems are meant to give a good impression of a company... show the best you can be on the outside, if this external website is seriously lacking, perhaps the internal site is seriously lacking?

The fact of the matter is this, people are expecting a R3 million website, not a R30K one. Poor budgeting, poor press releases, poor website - what impression do you have of IEC? where else are these type mistakes being make?
 
Template

Sorry, but the first impression you get of the site, is I wonder which template was used to create this.

Quite pathetic design which is there to reflect the county.

This could have been done better by offering a prize of R100000 to a high school that created the best site. That way the money spent would have been far better utilized, and no-one would question the high price of the project.
 
eltherza said:
We were told, R3 million into the website. So, you are saying that IEC lied to us? well, that's even more comforting to know that our IEC releases false information.



Considering that R3 million was budgeted, and only R300 000 was paid to the web... designers.... shows that R2.7 Million is "missing", even more re-assuring from our IEC
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He said that this was a sub-project of the full website project. The full project cost R3 mil, this part of it cost 10% of that.

Somehow you leap from there to "false information", "lying to us" and R2.7 mil missing".

Criticism where it's due, but learn to read before lashing out.

(That doesn't necessarily mean that I think that it is a pretty site, or that R300K was well spent - but lets stay on track here.)
 
Another "proud" initiative of www.pdca.co.za is http://www.telephonedirectory.co.za/

EDIT: Results for www.elections.org.za:

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/Default.asp, line 125

Again, very nicely done! :D
 
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chiskop said:
He said that this was a sub-project of the full website project. The full project cost R3 mil, this part of it cost 10% of that.

Somehow you leap from there to "false information", "lying to us" and R2.7 mil missing".

Criticism where it's due, but learn to read before lashing out.

(That doesn't necessarily mean that I think that it is a pretty site, or that R300K was well spent - but lets stay on track here.)
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Agreed.
 
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