iPhone 6

[DA-LION-619]

Why you say that?

I'm in that exact predicament right now. Been on Android for 4years now, but this is the first decent phone Apple has made.

The bigger iPhone 6+ is bending and it's not because people are putting it in their back pocket.
You'll need to move into the Apple ecosystem for everything to 'just work'.
The specs aren't that grand although the OS is optimized for it but the phone will be obsolete in 2 years.

 

[AstroTurf]

Why you say that?

I'm in that exact predicament right now. Been on Android for 4years now, but this is the first decent phone Apple has made.

Yea I agree with you. I really like the new 6+ but the bending effect has me extremely weary.
I am hard on my devices.

 

[Jola]

Why you say that?

I'm in that exact predicament right now. Been on Android for 4years now, but this is the first decent phone Apple has made.

Would not buy any gadget for that price.

What was that, R18000 for the S6+ ? Of course, not having a card slot you need the 128GB model

 

[AstroTurf]

Would not buy any gadget for that price.

What was that, R18000 for the S6+ ? Of course, not having a card slot you need the 128GB model

Yea that is also a big issue.
I do find it interesting though (worthy of my time, as it were).

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Would not buy any gadget for that price.

What was that, R18000 for the S6+ ? Of course, not having a card slot you need the 128GB model

I won't buy one at that price. I will wait until it is released here and get it as an upgrade.

 

[Chevron]

Would not buy any gadget for that price.

What was that, R18000 for the S6+ ? Of course, not having a card slot you need the 128GB model

Why do you keep things locally? Ever heard of the cloud? There's no need for the 128GB version at all.

And who buys phones cash? Ever heard of a contract?

First decent? If you think this one is decent, how exactly does it differ from the previous one, except for screen size?

That new camera tech looks awesome and yes. It's now a decent size

 

[Zenbaas]

Would not buy any gadget for that price.

What was that, R18000 for the S6+ ? Of course, not having a card slot you need the 128GB model

Yeah never at that price.

 

[Jola]

I won't buy one at that price. I will wait until it is released here and get it as an upgrade.

I don't buy technology on credit / contract, the stuff is worth nothing after a few months.

And the cash price for this is just outrageous. So, no thanks !

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

I don't buy technology on credit / contract, the stuff is worth nothing after a few months.

And the cash price for this is just outrageous. So, no thanks !

Fair enough. Nobody is forcing you. The cash price will of course come down when it is released here.

 

[Maverick Jester]

I doubt it. I don't know how many people went and bought an iPhone 5s because of iOS7 even though it was a huge graphical update. It would take something very special for Android L's software alone to move units en masse. Not to mention that the only people who really get to notice a new Android update are techheads and Nexus owners, who are already converts.

That we know of. We don't know what OEM integration and updates will be like, because they usually have the excuse that the latest version is sprung on them only when it is launched. Now, they have had some time to make inroads into deploying it sooner and across a greater spread of devices, and it will be difficult for them to abandon devices now. KitKat already lowered the hardware benchmark, and it's no coincidence that it is the version of Android that has made the most progress in terms of install base.

I do see this trend (Android to iOS switching) being most prevalent in the US, where the cost of owning an iPhone is comparable to the cost of an equivalent Android device. Outside of the US, I don't think so.

There are a lot of iPhone users that have purchased the device because it works, and a lot that use it because of the fluidity and responsiveness of the OS. Some of those may find Android L to be good enough on those fronts to migrate over to.

I also think that we are perhaps overstating the amount of users on Android that are simply there because of Apple's previous screen sizes. So I think that in the end, it will be a pretty even split, with the spread being different per market.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Why do you keep things locally? Ever heard of the cloud? There's no need for the 128GB version at all.

And who buys phones cash? Ever heard of a contract?

:wtf:

You do know that Apple's biggest market is the US because the iPhone is massively subsidised on contract?

And if there was no need for the 128GB version, Apple would certainly have not made it.

 

[Jola]

Why do you keep things locally? Ever heard of the cloud? There's no need for the 128GB version at all.

Disagree, mobile data costs a fortune and is often very slow. Also doesn't work on a plane. Or overseas.

Only real memory will do, and has to be 128GB.

 

[cerebus]

:wtf:

You do know that Apple's biggest market is the US because the iPhone is massively subsidised on contract?

And if there was no need for the 128GB version, Apple would certainly have not made it.

Where do you get that idea from? iPhone in the US is subsidized but it costs the same on subsidy as any equivalent phone, eg the lowest iphone 6 is $200 an so is the lowest S5. Apple don't get some special treatment in carrier prices over there. iPhone is simply more popular there than elsewhere.

 

[Chevron]

Where do you get that idea from? iPhone in the US is subsidized but it costs the same on subsidy as any equivalent phone, eg the lowest iphone 6 is $200 an so is the lowest S5. Apple don't get some special treatment in carrier prices over there. iPhone is simply more popular there than elsewhere.

Correct. $200 is the pay in on contract.

 

[Chevron]

:wtf:

You do know that Apple's biggest market is the US because the iPhone is massively subsidised on contract?

And if there was no need for the 128GB version, Apple would certainly have not made it.

1. The make more margin(profit) on the higher capacity phones.
2. Learn the difference between want and need. Apple will make whatever people are willing to pay for. Whether they need it or not.
3. Unlike here you have a pay in when buying an iphone on contract in the states.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Where do you get that idea from? iPhone in the US is subsidized but it costs the same on subsidy as any equivalent phone, eg the lowest iphone 6 is $200 an so is the lowest S5. Apple don't get some special treatment in carrier prices over there. iPhone is simply more popular there than elsewhere.

That's my point. Because there is no advantage on a price level due to subsidization via a contract, more users within that market can afford to own them as opposed to the rest of the world, hence why they are more popular within the US than any other market (and why the US is the iPhone's biggest market).

Outside of the US, Android dominates largely because of cost (particularly in the third world), and because iPhones are not subsidized to the same extent (examples would be Europe and our market). His statement only makes sense if he were in the US

The iPhone contracts here have generally been priced above the equivalent Android device contracts, which themselves are not entirely affordable.

 

[Jola]

3. Unlike here you have a pay in when buying an iphone on contract in the states.

This used to happen here, I paid in R3000 on a 4s Vodacom contract two years ago.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Correct. $200 is the pay in on contract.

You missed the point, which I have explained to cerebrus.

1. The make more margin(profit) on the higher capacity phones.
2. Learn the difference between want and need. Apple will make whatever people are willing to pay for. Whether they need it or not.
3. Unlike here you have a pay in when buying an iphone on contract in the states.

1. Higher capacity phones also cost more to produce. But actually, the higher margin is part of why Apple needs to manufacture them.
2. If you're going to go down that slippery slope, then you need to remember that not everyone needs the cloud. Many also don't want it, yet a considerable enough figure actually want the 128GB iPhone, which is why Apple produces it. So yeah, Apple do need to produce it to satiate that want.
3. Actually, you do for most contracts except high end ones, if you want a subscription fee that is not ridiculous. The cheapest iPhone 5S package available with Vodacom is R499. That's not very affordable to most people.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

iPhone 6/6 Plus vs Galaxy S5 - Speed Test: http://youtu.be/SI2nuFkl-S8

The iphone 6 is whipping the S5 all over the internet for performance. Shows what a lot of crud the "paper spec war" is getting away with.

 

[ijacobs3]

I can count 10 people I know that I converted from apple crap to Samsung and they have not looked back.
I won't even start with iTunes

I started with android crap and changed to Apple,

I found android too "fiddly". I want something the just works, don't have to first change this, or modify that. What I also found with,3 actions on andoid to do the same task on Apple in 1

iTunes , awesome , best music shop, no hunting online through some dodgy sites to down load poor quality dub step remixes of a song I actually want