iPhone 6

[sand_man]

if you reread my paragraph, you'll see that autofocus is one of the critical features, not a gimmick.

Yes you did, my bad....

 

[cerebus]

Yea actually I agree with everything you say there. Except I'd love to try out some 240fps slo-mo

 

[faniebraai]

Yea actually I agree with everything you say there. Except I'd love to try out some 240fps slo-mo

Sure, and so would I. But would I actually use it often? Not me. But I'm sure there are people who will, just not most.

 

[cerebus]

Sure, and so would I. But would I actually use it often? Not me. But I'm sure there are people who will, just not most.

Meh I'd actually be happy with a camera that could take a half decent food shot right now :/

 

[faniebraai]

Meh I'd actually be happy with a camera that could take a half decent food shot right now :/

Hehe, did you see my nice pork ribs photo from Morty's thread? Good thing about my 'food' shots, 99% of the time it's on a braai, so it's outside

 

[faniebraai]

Also, did we just found an acceptable middle ground for both us?

O jeez, I forgot my coat today, it's gonna snow!

 

[sand_man]

Quite fascinated with the new time lapse feature....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OriMNgGaU3w

 

[Zenbaas]

Quite fascinated with the new time lapse feature....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OriMNgGaU3w

How is this different to the time lapse apps that have always been available.?

 

[PostmanPot]

You make a statement saying "focusing alone wins it for me", yet when provided with empirical evidence that the S5 camera is better than the iPhone 5S camera, assume anecdotal evidence to be of equal value? I'm sorry, but that does not fly.

The fact that you are basing it on "photographers' eyes" is possibly the least scientific approach possible.

It may be a better camera to you, that doesn't make it better. Having a slight advantage in one aspect does not make the entire camera experience better. Be careful of putting too much weight into a slight improvement in low light conditions. If you're going to go by that metric, then the HTC One M8 may as well be declared the best camera in a smartphone.

:wtf:

I was merely emphasising how far ahead the 5s is in terms of autofocus and tap to focus. Exactly as the test results show. Exactly as my YouTube video showed. Exactly the same experience everyone has on all laggy Android phones which we are all familiar with. Because Android.

I have already explained to you that slight advantages in one aspect does make the entire camera experience better. You are the one reading into a two point advantage which seems based on factors contributing the least to overall picture quality. Exposure and contrast are perhaps the most important, hence my mentioning of it, as it is one area in your review where the 5s is rated higher, and I'm unsure you know exactly how important these factors are.

Unless you've fallen behind, it's not sensible using the same line on me. You are the one deliberating over two points, I am the one backing up my opinion with facts which prove that the iPhone 5s camera and experience is overall better. I have already conceded that under the right conditions they are on par, which again, reflects in the test results. I have touched on the resolutions too, where the S5 is superior, making for more detailed zooming for those who crop a lot, or who count pixels...

 

[PostmanPot]

(Galaxy S5's autofocus is better than iPhone 5s's).

I find their opinion difficult to believe, never in my experience has it been faster on a S5.

And the key, for me, is tap to focus. I think just about everyone who is a phoneographer uses tap to focus to get the right exposure/light, focus, and contrast.

It's a fact. Don't get me wrong, the S5 takes beautiful pictures and panoramas - but it's not quite as consistent as the 5s. Nor does the S5 autofocus/tap to focus as fast as the 5s.

Evidenced in the below video (which funnily enough also shows some of the usual Android lag).

[video=youtube;9vL6mSPJytM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vL6mSPJytM[/video]

1. 0:29 - there is lag opening the camera
2. 0:56 - slower tap to focus than the 5s
3. 1:00 - unresponsiveness and lag.

etc.

This all within the first minute of the video.

Same as every S5 I've played with.

 

[PostmanPot]

How is this different to the time lapse apps that have always been available.?

The iOS 8 Camera app has been totally overhauled. And it includes time-lapse. No need for another app. Works damn well too.

Just loving iOS 8. The Camera and Photos apps really have been overhauled, I'm sure all the iPhoneographers are enjoying it.

http://www.macworld.com/article/268...ra-tricks-and-a-major-overhaul-of-photos.html
http://mashable.com/2014/09/24/ios-8-photo-collections/

Looking forward to OS X Yosemite integration.

Those who like editing photos (I'm more of a no edit/shop/crop person) are now able to do so in intricate detail. All the sub settings of Light, Colour, and B&W can be tweaked. In such a beautiful way too.

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[PostmanPot]

What tweaking the settings looks like (the upper dot indicates where the original setting was on the scale):



Tap to focus, and then drag up or down to increase/decrease exposure:

 

[cerebus]

Anandtech's iPhone 6 / 6+ reviews are up:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review

Overall, the iPhone 6 has been a surprise for me. While not all that much changed on the surface, this is the first phone that I’ve reviewed all year where I’ve found more to like the deeper I dug. The iPhone 6 is a great phone in its own right and needs no qualifications in that recommendation. While as a current Android user I’m still reluctant to use the iPhone 6 as my only phone, the iPhone 6 is good enough that I’m willing to consider doing so.

 

[Maverick Jester]

:wtf:

I was merely emphasising how far ahead the 5s is in terms of autofocus and tap to focus. Exactly as the test results show. Exactly as my YouTube video showed. Exactly the same experience everyone has on all laggy Android phones which we are all familiar with. Because Android.

No, you're the one that stated that the 5S is better than the S5 (weird palindromes there). You've also used videos referencing beta software as part of your confirmation bias into this opinion.

I have already explained to you that slight advantages in one aspect does make the entire camera experience better. You are the one reading into a two point advantage which seems based on factors contributing the least to overall picture quality. Exposure and contrast are perhaps the most important, hence my mentioning of it, as it is one area in your review where the 5s is rated higher, and I'm unsure you know exactly how important these factors are.

I didn't read anything into the scores. I merely evidenced that in an empirical, standardised test suite, the S5 is ranked as the better camera, regardless of your opinion otherwise.

It's odd that you mention "slight advantages in one aspect does not make the entire camera experience better". Because that is exactly your argument, and why (in your opinion) the 5S is better than the S5.

Unless you've fallen behind, it's not sensible using the same line on me. You are the one deliberating over two points, I am the one backing up my opinion with facts which prove that the iPhone 5s camera and experience is overall better. I have already conceded that under the right conditions they are on par, which again, reflects in the test results. I have touched on the resolutions too, where the S5 is superior, making for more detailed zooming for those who crop a lot, or who count pixels...

The thing is, you've not presented facts, you've presented anecdotes. If your opinion that beta software from a (then) unreleased device equates to you backing up your opinion of hur-dur Android lag and the iPhone 5S having a better camera, then so be it. Just don't expect others to view it as a fact, either.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Anandtech's iPhone 6 / 6+ reviews are up:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review

That's pretty much everyone's conclusion so far. Going to see a lot of android to iphone migration now that the screen size is adequate.

 

[Maverick Jester]

That's pretty much everyone's conclusion so far. Going to see a lot of android to iphone migration now that the screen size is adequate.

The reverse will most likely happen once Android L is launched.

 

[cerebus]

The reverse will most likely happen once Android L is launched.

I doubt it. I don't know how many people went and bought an iPhone 5s because of iOS7 even though it was a huge graphical update. It would take something very special for Android L's software alone to move units en masse. Not to mention that the only people who really get to notice a new Android update are techheads and Nexus owners, who are already converts.

 

[DA-LION-619]

That's pretty much everyone's conclusion so far. Going to see a lot of android to iphone migration now that the screen size is adequate.

Yeah right

 

[Chevron]

Yeah right

Why you say that?

I'm in that exact predicament right now. Been on Android for 4years now, but this is the first decent phone Apple has made.

 

[faniebraai]

Why you say that?

I'm in that exact predicament right now. Been on Android for 4years now, but this is the first decent phone Apple has made.

First decent? If you think this one is decent, how exactly does it differ from the previous one, except for screen size?