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iPhone 6/6 Plus vs Galaxy S5 - Speed Test: http://youtu.be/SI2nuFkl-S8

The iphone 6 is whipping the S5 all over the internet for performance. Shows what a lot of crud the "paper spec war" is getting away with.

Well, the S5 is really nothing remarkable in specs. It's just an off-the-shelf Snapdragon 801, the same as a handful of similar flagship phones with a slightly higher clock speed for bragging rights and less ram than the OnePlus One.
 

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Well, the S5 is really nothing remarkable in specs. It's just an off-the-shelf Snapdragon 801, the same as a handful of similar flagship phones with a slightly higher clock speed for bragging rights and less ram than the OnePlus One.

And heavily held back by Android and TouchWiz, but I guess that's a known given.
 

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Well, the S5 is really nothing remarkable in specs. It's just an off-the-shelf Snapdragon 801, the same as a handful of similar flagship phones with a slightly higher clock speed for bragging rights and less ram than the OnePlus One.
But on paper it's far "superior" to the iphone 6. Yet its sluggush comparatively in peformance. That just shows they hurry specs into these decives without spending nearly enough time doing to clever stuff to optimise them. It's all smoke and mirrors.

The same with the camera and the mp's. All reports saying the iphone 6 is the best camera out there despite having close to have the mp's of the samdung S5.
 
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That's my point. Because there is no advantage on a price level due to subsidization via a contract, more users within that market can afford to own them as opposed to the rest of the world, hence why they are more popular within the US than any other market (and why the US is the iPhone's biggest market).

Right, but the fact that the US effectively doesn't have a low-cost phone market means that it shows what happens when the market saturation of cheaper Android phones is removed, and the market in which Apple plays is (more or less) the entire smartphone market. That's where you'll see the real attrition between Android and iOS either way - except that I think Americans tend to be more pro-Apple than other areas. When people switch between Android or iOS it's usually because they're upgrading (I would assume), which means they've moved from a lower bracket to a higher, or just on preference have changed systems.

At the high end of the phone market the real obvious distinction between Android/iOS was screen sizes. I mean, I know there are other factors and entrenchments and ecosystem buy-in etc, but that's the real elephant. Now that's removed, I would think someone who firstly is already in the high-end phone market, and secondly was on the fence previously or would have preferred an iPhone but saw how dwarfed it was by Android handsets, has a greater likelihood of buying an iPhone 6. And I'm just guessing, but I think those numbers could be quite meaningful to Apple in total sell-through.
 

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Right, but the fact that the US effectively doesn't have a low-cost phone market means that it shows what happens when the market saturation of cheaper Android phones is removed, and the market in which Apple plays is (more or less) the entire smartphone market. That's where you'll see the real attrition between Android and iOS either way - except that I think Americans tend to be more pro-Apple than other areas. When people switch between Android or iOS it's usually because they're upgrading (I would assume), which means they've moved from a lower bracket to a higher, or just on preference have changed systems.

At the high end of the phone market the real obvious distinction between Android/iOS was screen sizes. I mean, I know there are other factors and entrenchments and ecosystem buy-in etc, but that's the real elephant. Now that's removed, I would think someone who firstly is already in the high-end phone market, and secondly was on the fence previously or would have preferred an iPhone but saw how dwarfed it was by Android handsets, has a greater likelihood of buying an iPhone 6. And I'm just guessing, but I think those numbers could be quite meaningful to Apple in total sell-through.

Yep, agreed with you. And why I foresee the market shift to be greater in Apple's favour in the US as a result.
 

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And lets not forget. Apple is an American company who have a massive presence in the USA (shops, billboards and ads everywhere)and rely heavily on the patriotic support from the yanks who fears ze evil germans, the copycat Koreans and look down on the cheap chinese.

I have been to the States a few times and you just get a feeling that over there they place all things Apple on a moerse pedestal and workship everything with the Apple logo.
 

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iPhone 6/6 Plus vs Galaxy S5 - Speed Test: http://youtu.be/SI2nuFkl-S8

The iphone 6 is whipping the S5 all over the internet for performance. Shows what a lot of crud the "paper spec war" is getting away with.
I noticed that the S5 had a lot going on it the notification panel.

This one seems to be better with both phones rebooted before a test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE8jHskLNfQ

Can we assume that the higher ppi on the S5 is working against it in these tests?
 

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I noticed that the S5 had a lot going on it the notification panel.
I noticed you squirming to defend the S5 there. It's not really necessary; the iPhone6 is definitively faster but also 6 months newer. I think it's simply good enough to say that the iPhone6 isn't as underspecced as it's being painted. It stands up to anything else out there speed-wise.

This one seems to be better with both phones rebooted before a test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE8jHskLNfQ
iPhone 6 is still faster there.
Can we assume that the higher ppi on the S5 is working against it in these tests?
No that wouldn't affect startup times. 3d game tests need to do off and onscreen to regulate against the higher PPI impact.
 

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I noticed that the S5 had a lot going on it the notification panel.

This one seems to be better with both phones rebooted before a test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE8jHskLNfQ

Can we assume that the higher ppi on the S5 is working against it in these tests?

What stood out for me is the battery life of the phones - S5 goes from 75% to 60% while the iPhone goes from 50% to 20% in the same time.
 

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I noticed you squirming to defend the S5 there.

:rolleyes: yeah that's why i posted a link where the iphone 6 still comes out faster... I looked at the first vid and noticed a lot of background applications (aka apps that sits in ram) in the notification panel. Wanted to see a less subjective test.
I asked about ppi because some suggested that the high ppi on the LG3 causes a lot of UI lag...
 
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Lot of stuff happening in the notification panel of that android. The default Samsung camera is used and not the new Google one in the play store for devices running 4.4+. It starts up way faster as can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhkPXVxISY. In the end even the Moto E alost beats the S5.

All of these tests and benchmarks is pointless because android L will only come out 1 November. It will bring ART and ART features such as Ahead-of-time (making apps native just like iOS) and improved garbage collection.
 

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Lot of stuff happening in the notification panel of that android. The default Samsung camera is used and not the new Google one in the play store for devices running 4.4+. It starts up way faster as can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhkPXVxISY. In the end even the Moto E alost beats the S5.

All of these tests and benchmarks is pointless because android L will only come out 1 November. It will bring ART and ART features such as Ahead-of-time (making apps native just like iOS) and improved garbage collection.
Pfffft. Don't be jel.
 

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Lot of stuff happening in the notification panel of that android. The default Samsung camera is used and not the new Google one in the play store for devices running 4.4+. It starts up way faster as can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhkPXVxISY. In the end even the Moto E alost beats the S5.
Well none of that is actually relevant. iPhone6 would also have had background services running. The only real measure is benchmarks. You just can't compare startup times of 2 totally separate apps with their own codebases and probably different development levels. So it's not a very good test, I agree. There are plenty of very reliable tests though and they don't show much different picture.

All of these tests and benchmarks is pointless because android L will only come out 1 November. It will bring ART and ART features such as Ahead-of-time (making apps native just like iOS) and improved garbage collection.
Lol. Should we also wait till Metal releases and all iOS apps get ported to Swift? You test with what's there now.
 

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I must say the GSM Arena review has effectively put me off the phone.
 
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