iPhone appeal slipping

I use Dropbox like anyone else. I also use Google's version. But sneakernet is still a reality in my life. I always have four USB drives on me each containing different stuff. The way I work. I can transfer documents/drawings/photos to anyone anywhere (to their laptops/PC's), and receive the same from them also. The other parties need not be connected to any cloud/network. I think by far the majority of people still work this way.
 
BeVonk! said:
With Android I have a central file depository where I can place stuff (and move stuff around) and play any file from a range of app options it will present when I tap on the file. Like Windows.
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With iPhone/iPad this has effectively become the cloud and I can honestly say that I have never found the lack of access to the file system a problem - you realise quite quickly that with well designed apps, you should never have to do anything directly in the file system of a mobile device anyway. I don't see how navigating through folders to find a file, then clicking on it and then selecting from a selection of apps to open it with is in any way elegant or desirable for mobile users.
 
BeVonk! said:
I use Dropbox like anyone else. I also use Google's version. But sneakernet is still a reality in my life. I always have four USB drives on me each containing different stuff. The way I work. I can transfer documents/drawings/photos to anyone anywhere (to their laptops/PC's), and receive the same from them also. The other parties need not be connected to any cloud/network. I think by far the majority of people still work this way.
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ALL my clients have a link to their shared Dropbox folder and they all love it when they realise they can install it into their file system on their PCs and all they have to do to send me stuff is copy to the folder, and when I send them updated software, etc I just dump it into their shared folder on my pc and voila, they get a little alert that there's new material available, etc. Our whole company works like this. It saves so much time and works perfectly.
 
garp said:
With iPhone/iPad this has effectively become the cloud and I can honestly say that I have never found the lack of access to the file system a problem - you realise quite quickly that with well designed apps, you should never have to do anything directly in the file system of a mobile device anyway. I don't see how navigating through folders to find a file, then clicking on it and then selecting from a selection of apps to open it with is in any way elegant or desirable for mobile users.
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You have a 1.2GB movie file sitting in movie player App A. You see a new movie player App B in the AppStore and install it. How do you get the movie to the new app without a laptop/PC with iTunes?
 
BeVonk! said:
You have a 1.2GB movie file sitting in movie player App A. You see a new movie player App B in the AppStore and install it. How do you get the movie to the new app without a laptop/PC with iTunes?
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You jailbreak that mofo.
 
garp said:
ALL my clients have a link to their shared Dropbox folder and they all love it when they realise they can install it into their file system on their PCs and all they have to do to send me stuff is copy to the folder, and when I send them updated software, etc I just dump it into their shared folder on my pc and voila, they get a little alert that there's new material available, etc. Our whole company works like this. It saves so much time and works perfectly.
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Many companies don't work like that, especially not large ones with strict security. Our machines are all "locked down" with very specific access/user rights. No dropbox or similar. Over the corporate network or sneakernet. That's it. No tablets or phones allowed onto corporate network. Many are in this situation.
 
BeVonk! said:
You have a 1.2GB movie file sitting in movie player App A. You see a new movie player App B in the AppStore and install it. How do you get the movie to the new app without a laptop/PC with iTunes?
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I must admit, I never had this issue, I use iTunes on my homeserver, it downloads all my shows and movies, i then stream to my apple tv or my ipad or my macbook or my iphone.

lucky i don't watch too many shows on the iphone, so maybe the S3 would be ok, if used as an island
 
cerebus said:
You jailbreak that mofo.
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On ICS and JB one doesn't even need to root to get full access rights to external drives any more. Full access to all external drives out of the box. Beautiful. No warrantee issues, etc. No risks. No geek friends needed LOL!
 
garp said:
USB memory sticks are so 2006. I thought everyone used Dropbox, Google Drive etc?? I have the same files available to me on any device and any platform everywhere, and they can easily be shared.
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Wow you must have a massive data bundle with your phone. Real world people like me only have 500mb a month :erm:
 
bwana said:
Or just get a decent video player from the get-go.
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I've had situations where a video just wouldn't play in one but do so in another or where the sound is out of sync in one but perfect in another. One app doesn't always work so well, even the best ones.
 
BeVonk! said:
Many companies don't work like that, especially not large ones with strict security. Our machines are all "locked down" with very specific access/user rights. No dropbox or similar. Over the corporate network or sneakernet. That's it. No tablets or phones allowed onto corporate network. Many are in this situation.
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You understand that USB drives are a huge threat to corporate security, right? http://www.networkworld.com/research/2012/061312-flame-elevates-security-threat-of-260129.html
BeVonk! said:
I've had situations where a video just wouldn't play in one but do so in another or where the sound is out of sync in one but perfect in another. One app doesn't always work so well, even the best ones.
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Never had those issues on iOS.
 
BeVonk! said:
On ICS and JB one doesn't even need to root to get full access rights to external drives any more. Full access to all external drives out of the box. Beautiful. No warrantee issues, etc. No risks. No geek friends needed LOL!
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Only requirement is that you be a bit of a geek from the beginning.

However ye... the movie issue... you kind of just use a decent movie player from the beginning, otherwise you're a noob. Most iOS movie players are good enough. Why would you even want to move a movie from one app to another?
 
garp said:
ALL my clients have a link to their shared Dropbox folder and they all love it when they realise they can install it into their file system on their PCs and all they have to do to send me stuff is copy to the folder, and when I send them updated software, etc I just dump it into their shared folder on my pc and voila, they get a little alert that there's new material available, etc. Our whole company works like this. It saves so much time and works perfectly.
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What if a nasty trojan/virus get dumped in the shared dropbox folder? :erm:
 
undesign said:
What do you need to transfer that you need a USB drive for? (genuine question)
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Verey few of us live in that world of yours where we can afford to use the cloud for everything. In the cloud you pay for every move you make over and over and over. Every time you update a file (a design for example) you have to send it to the cloud. Money ... money ... money ....
 
BeVonk! said:
You have a 1.2GB movie file sitting in movie player App A. You see a new movie player App B in the AppStore and install it. How do you get the movie to the new app without a laptop/PC with iTunes?
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Not easily (although I think it might be possible with iCloud).

I've never had a reason to do this, though, as the iOS movie player is excellent and I've never really needed to copy movies without having a PC around. I guess the only glitch would be unsupported formats, but in the past I've converted them quite easily (on a PC, though). What I do use quite a lot is StreamToMe which streams movies from my HTPC over wifi perfectly.

I'll concede that large movie files in a context where you don't have a PC would present a challenge, but I've never really encountered that scenario so I've never been frustrated by this.
 
BeVonk! said:
Many companies don't work like that, especially not large ones with strict security. Our machines are all "locked down" with very specific access/user rights. No dropbox or similar. Over the corporate network or sneakernet. That's it. No tablets or phones allowed onto corporate network. Many are in this situation.
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Yes, but then they shouldn't be allowing you to stick a USB drive into their PC's either and probably have a policy against it if they haven't locked it down.
 
BeVonk! said:
Verey few of us live in that world of yours where we can afford to use the cloud for everything. In the cloud you pay for every move you make over and over and over. Every time you update a file (a design for example) you have to send it to the cloud. Money ... money ... money ....
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Well let's just concede that iOS is more restrictive than Android. I don't think anybody really disputes it anyway. You need to jailbreak to do any kind of under-the-hood tweaking of iOS. What's your point though? It hasn't hurt Apple at all in the past 5-6 years since the iPhone was released, and I can't imagine why it will hurt them going forwards; unless you have that deluded 'People are beginning to wake up and smell the roses' mindset of certain fanboys on the forum.
 
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