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I'm sorry, but I have to agree with the others on some level here.
we do not need to know anything about what problems vodacom is having to release the iPhone. Just set a date, release it, and let me pay for it.
this date thing is rediculouse - is it supposed to create hype? because technology is moving on and they are losing interested every time they dissapoint.
I love the iPhone but even I am getting tired of this same old Lip Flapping.
According to this thread there are confidentiality agreements that say vodacom cant say when exactly they will release the phone. You cant expect them to screw themselves over and break that agreement. Who knows how much they would be sued!
Well then why are dates being throwed around all over the place - is it supposed to create Hype?
If someone told me they were gonna buy me some gift "in two weeks", and told me that week after week, month after month...well, you know - you would just get sick of all the BS and move on...
If someone told me they were gonna buy me some gift "in two weeks", and told me that week after week, month after month...well, you know - you would just get sick of all the BS and move on...
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
All dates "thrown around" did NOT come from Vodacom. Nor did Vodacom ever made a statement such as "in two weeks" or whatever.
All the dates you ever heard or saw published came from the web including forums such as this one where forumites speculated on dates (and pricing!).
Read through all the threads on th the subject and you'll quickly pick it up; one forumite posts his or her personal views on dates or pricing and the next minute it's gospel and triggers a massive debate.
And while you're reading through all those threads, notice how often I posted this, i.e. there is no date yet published for the release of the 3G iPhone.
vincent_nami
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I am currently in Canada (for an othe r2 months) and I got my self an iphone3G.
Well .. it's by far the best phone there is on the market. Sure the battery life is not great and you def feel Apple is trying to lock you in, but man it's easy to use, things just work and you dont need to read though thoudands of forum post if you have a question as things juts make sense.
Anyways, I hope the phone will be in SA this month ...
I'll give the iphone a 9/10
Well .. it's by far the best phone there is on the market. Sure the battery life is not great and you def feel Apple is trying to lock you in, but man it's easy to use, things just work and you dont need to read though thoudands of forum post if you have a question as things juts make sense.
Anyways, I hope the phone will be in SA this month ...
I'll give the iphone a 9/10
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
Yes, but surely Vodacom could have been more communicative about the fact that they could not give a date due to non-disclosure agreements[1]?
Forgive me if you were shouting this from the roof-tops and I missed it. Many of us certainly got the impression that the release date was imminent now for the last 2 months, even if we paid no attention to the speculation by individual forumites with their release dates guesstimates and iPhone pricing.
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[1] Unless there was an NDA on the NDA?
Vodacom seemed quite happy to let the hype build about imminent arrival of the iPhone and adding fuel to the fire with that stupid pre-registration page on the Vodacom site.
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Because man, there are of course a lot of fighting amongst top management and BEE shareholders for a piece of the pie, and they could not come to an agreement yet on just how much to charge us for it?
Or even worse, knowing that they are going to get flooded with technical queries when it gets released, they are still looking for competent help desk agents?
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vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Yes, but surely Vodacom could have been more communicative about the fact that they could not give a date due to non-disclosure agreements[1]?
Forgive me if you were shouting this from the roof-tops and I missed it. Many of us certainly got the impression that the release date was imminent now for the last 2 months, even if we paid no attention to the speculation by individual forumites with their release dates guesstimates and iPhone pricing.
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[1] Unless there was an NDA on the NDA?
Vodacom seemed quite happy to let the hype build about imminent arrival of the iPhone and adding fuel to the fire with that stupid pre-registration page on the Vodacom site.
Something you'll notice about press releases from Vodacom (compared to other mobile operators), is that Vodacom typically launch a product and then put out a press release to the fact, where others love to put out a press release and then start figuring out how to actually get the product out. (Think 3G, HSDPA, UPA, etc.)
While I don't always agree with it, this is the way Vodacom has been doing product releases since day 1.
So, as already stated, the impression that the phone was 'imminent' was due to overzealous journos, bloggers, posters, etc. But not from Vodacom.
You're not far off on the NDA comment.
kilps
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But still no idea on the price or did I miss it?
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Pricing will be announced at launch time.
Maybe I can also come in to maybe clarify these dates etc. Vodacom never said anything about dates: In fact, they tried their best to NOT say anything about it. All the articles were based on speculation regarding the launch in other regions based on Vodafone or Apple announcements.
Vodacom was called numerous times, and they never gave any dates, until now of course Again Vodacom did not want to say anything because of a NDA – which they can obviously not break because of Vodafone & Apple – but Steven pushed very hard (as he did multiple times before). All that Dot mentioned is that it is likely to be in September (listen to the podcast).
In my opinion Vodacom certainly did not mess anyone around, but may in fact have been messed around themselves. The hype that surrounded the iPhone coming to SA placed them in a difficult position, especially if they really don’t know when it will be launched or maybe even if they don’t know when they will receive stock.
What else could they have done differently considering their position?
Vodacom was called numerous times, and they never gave any dates, until now of course
Again Vodacom did not want to say anything because of a NDA – which they can obviously not break because of Vodafone & Apple – but Steven pushed very hard (as he did multiple times before). All that Dot mentioned is that it is likely to be in September (listen to the podcast). In my opinion Vodacom certainly did not mess anyone around, but may in fact have been messed around themselves. The hype that surrounded the iPhone coming to SA placed them in a difficult position, especially if they really don’t know when it will be launched or maybe even if they don’t know when they will receive stock.
What else could they have done differently considering their position?
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It's junk!! The GEN 1 phone was good, the GEN 2 phone is a absolute disaster.
The two main things for me is that you cannot use the GPS with anything other than apple proprietary software and it cannot be used as a modem for your laptop or desktop!
HTC Diamond Touch or XPERIA is the way to go now!
The two main things for me is that you cannot use the GPS with anything other than apple proprietary software and it cannot be used as a modem for your laptop or desktop!
HTC Diamond Touch or XPERIA is the way to go now!
I must say that I am also not even considering getting the iPhone. Vodacom mentioned that there may be some test units for reviews – luckily we have a few guys dead keen to write about it (I think Steven is one of them
) otherwise I would not have even accepted a trial phone… I have heard many guys raving about the iPhone, and when I see them a few weeks later they use their Blackberry, Nokia Smartphone or HTC. But is certainly the ‘coolest’ phone out there: “It can do basically everything, except make calls” as the Vodacom CEO said
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marine1
Honorary Master
Busy trying to get the hype up to the max? Who the hell knows. Only Vodacom top execs know and it looks like we are going to get screwed once again.
marine1
Honorary Master
No they just take orders first to see how well they may do and then release the phone months later.Something you'll notice about press releases from Vodacom (compared to other mobile operators), is that Vodacom typically launch a product and then put out a press release to the fact, where others love to put out a press release and then start figuring out how to actually get the product out. (Think 3G, HSDPA, UPA, etc.)
While I don't always agree with it, this is the way Vodacom has been doing product releases since day 1.
So, as already stated, the impression that the phone was 'imminent' was due to overzealous journos, bloggers, posters, etc. But not from Vodacom.
You're not far off on the NDA comment.
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
I must say that I am also not even considering getting the iPhone. Vodacom mentioned that there may be some test units for reviews – luckily we have a few guys dead keen to write about it (I think Steven is one of them
But is certainly the ‘coolest’ phone out there: “It can do basically everything, except make calls” as the Vodacom CEO said
I also switched back to my TyTN from the iPhone. And nowadays switch between the TyTN and a BB. iPhone somewhere in a drawer.
MY personal take on the iPhone is that it's got the best user-interface available today but technically is very much an average phone, lacking some basic features.
boerbok
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My opinion on why it took Vodacom so long to release the Iphone (This is only speculation on my part)
I think they wanted to come out at too high a price with contract. This defeated Apple's whole objective to put the iphone in all peoples hand
But then again only time will tell , let's see the price
I think they wanted to come out at too high a price with contract. This defeated Apple's whole objective to put the iphone in all peoples hand
But then again only time will tell , let's see the price
Fantastic1
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I would rather get something like the HTC Touch Pro;
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-pictures-2413.php
Complete Review
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-review-278.php
HTC Suppliers Locally "LEAF" have indicated that it should be available from Vodacom during the month of October 2008.
I am waiting for it to be released and I would do my upgrade with Vodacom
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-pictures-2413.php
Complete Review
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-review-278.php
HTC Suppliers Locally "LEAF" have indicated that it should be available from Vodacom during the month of October 2008.
I am waiting for it to be released and I would do my upgrade with Vodacom
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