iPhone versus Android

What would be really interesting a year or two from now is if you take out the really low-end effectively dumb-phone Androids and compare to all iPhones, including the "entry level" cheaper iPhone which will inevitably be released.
 
Only a fool will disregard the Chinese and Indian markets and make them out as inferior for statistical purposes. It is where all the action is. Those markets count big-time and the cheap Android devices are as valuable to Google as the expensive ones. The price of the device says f-all. It is about the number of users tied to a specific system. As these markets develop people will upgrade to more expensive devices ... and then they are already captured into the Google ecosystem.
 
2012 said:
Ok, if it pleases you, we can say

IOS shipped vs Andriod shipped. The graph is the same but it might make you just a little bit happier in life.
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So it includes all of the iPods, iPads, and iPad Minis as well as the iPhones?
 
BeVonk! said:
Only a fool will disregard the Chinese and Indian markets and make them out as inferior for statistical purposes. It is where all the action is. Those markets count big-time and the cheap Android devices are as valuable to Google as the expensive ones. The price of the device says f-all. It is about the number of users tied to a specific system. As these markets develop people will upgrade to more expensive devices ... [-]and then they are already captured into the Google ecosystem.[/-] like iPhones.
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FTFY
 
BeVonk! said:
No matter how anyone will try to make the graph seem wrong/irrelevant/blah blah blah ... the fact is that a heck of a large % of smartphone users worldwide are linked into Google's ecosystem and that has always been Google's mobile device strategy. And it is working out fantastically well for them. The little robots are linked to the mothership and Google has "eyes and ears" everywhere.

I often hear the argument about Apple's far superior ecosystem. Well, it depends on what definitions and scope is applied (what is in and what is out, and what the motives and goals are). That graph says Google is building a very very good ecosystem, but one that is not about nice high-end toys but rather one that is about interonnecting as many people and things as possible and linking them all to the Google mothership. Thát is a successful ecosystem of note right there in my books.
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The vast majority of the low-end Android phone users did not buy into any eco-system. They just bought the cheapest phone they could get.
 
Pathetic choice of headline: OS vs phone (yes, I know only Apple use IOS)
 
jannievanzyl said:
The vast majority of the low-end Android phone users did not buy into any eco-system. They just bought the cheapest phone they could get.
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The may not have bought into it but they are now part of it. The two ecosystems are not the same. And that is the idea. Google is building something different from Apple. Microsoft seems to want to copy the Apple one with a little bit of the Google one mixed-in. As an Android user (cheap or expensive devices) one opens a Google account and then get linked to the mothership. As part of this all account holders have access to Google's apps and free software. Add Google+ to the mix (which I much prefer over Facebook).When one signs up with Google you're inside.

BTW those cheap Android phones can do a lot. It may not do it as fast or as elegant, but it still runs those apps. My daughter got herself the Galaxy Y Pro at Cell C real cheap ... and it works great for her coming from BlackBerry. She's now inside the Google ecosystem ... and got in cheap. Working with this cheap phone convinced her of the power of Android and she took over my SGT10.1 tablet as a result. She was offered an iPad 2 but chose the Android tablet.

Get them in first (cheap) ... and then hold on to them and milk them later. Rumours are that Apple is now considering the same strategy = cheaper iPhone.
 
I wonder if these stats include the forks of Android and other non CDD compliant devices.
 
So does this mean South Africa is no longer considered a developing country :D
 
BeVonk! said:
The may not have bought into it but they are now part of it. The two ecosystems are not the same. And that is the idea. Google is building something different from Apple. Microsoft seems to want to copy the Apple one with a little bit of the Google one mixed-in. As an Android user (cheap or expensive devices) one opens a Google account and then get linked to the mothership. As part of this all account holders have access to Google's apps and free software. Add Google+ to the mix (which I much prefer over Facebook).When one signs up with Google you're inside.

BTW those cheap Android phones can do a lot. It may not do it as fast or as elegant, but it still runs those apps. My daughter got herself the Galaxy Y Pro at Cell C real cheap ... and it works great for her coming from BlackBerry. She's now inside the Google ecosystem ... and got in cheap. Working with this cheap phone convinced her of the power of Android and she took over my SGT10.1 tablet as a result. She was offered an iPad 2 but chose the Android tablet.

Get them in first (cheap) ... and then hold on to them and milk them later. Rumours are that Apple is now considering the same strategy = cheaper iPhone.
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I hear what you are saying but you're making an assumption that all those inexpensive Android handset users are creating Gmail accounts.

Agree on the lock-in strategy. Would've done the same if I were Google.
 
Android phones are the only ones that you never have to "activate".

So if you just want to phone and sms & never login to any google account, you're not part of any "eco system".
 
bwana said:
So it includes all of the iPods, iPads, and iPad Minis as well as the iPhones?
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No. People are just sucking this out of their thumbs. It is iPhone vs Android smartphone adoption rates over time since release. The original heading for that image is:

Android 'Phone' Adoption Has Ramped Even Faster - Nearly 6x iPhone

You can see the original slides from her talk here (it has a lot of interesting stuff). Whenever you read a MyBB news article for international tech news, you're almost certainly better off searching other news sites to figure out what the content actually is.
 
jannievanzyl said:
The vast majority of the low-end Android phone users did not buy into any eco-system. They just bought the cheapest phone they could get.
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Exactly. If my mom gets an Android she's still only going to phone, sms and set her alarm clock.
 
Interesting. Can now see why MS went into panic mode with the fugly Modern UI (and need to press current customer base where they may not want to go) ...

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kingrob said:
Android phones are the only ones that you never have to "activate".

So if you just want to phone and sms & never login to any google account, you're not part of any "eco system".
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Whats the point then? You might as well have a Nokia 3210.
 
Fudzy said:
Whats the point then? You might as well have a Nokia 3210.
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Yep. I cannot see why a person would get an Android smartphone and not get a gmail/Google account that is FREE to get full access to all that is on offer ... like free apps by the gazillions that will run happily on a cheap device too. And the deeper you get into the apps the more you are tied-in. And at some point all the other Google Play Store goodies will come too (with ads).
 
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