Is it worth it getting an N95?

[sand_man]

Calm down lads...

 

[adamr]

i had both phones ... N95 is like a Mercedes S600 V12 with all the options, the K800/810i is like a Mercedes E320 ... they both good phones, but the N95 is a superior phone ... my dad dropped his k800 down the loo and wants a replacement phone ... getting him a N95 simply cause i got one and he loves it too ...

on software problem side on the N95, cant say i have had anything annoying .... the phone works well, yes maybe once in three months it will reset or hang, just like the k800i would ... but thats about it ...

 

[Athlon64]

Someone drank too much last night or is unable to reread what they have said... I quote you and you ask where you said this! Maybe I need to make it simpler for you and include your text in my responses like you do! Quoting does not seem to work for you.

I know I used those words, but you took it out of context:

I buy the best phone... ...which fits into my budget.

This wasn't directed at Pooky. I just mentioned what I do when buying a phone.

Microsoft (as an example) is constantly releasing patches and fixes... it's what software companies do! No software is released as a final version immediately. There are always fixes, patches, upgrades... it's the way technology works. It does not stand still. It needs to move forward. If some companies release inferior software and never update it, then so be it... i prefer one that moves forward. And for your information Nokia have not released 20 versions... the previous release was V12. Obviously they made enhancements behind the scenes.

We're talking about a cellphone here. Not a computer. And technology doesn't move forward when a bug is fixed. It just gets to the place it should have been in the first place. 12 versions....20 versions.... whatever (there are probably 20 versions anyway - they just weren't all publicly released).... that's a lot for a phone which is 1 year old.

And I did not pay R7000, I inherited the phone so that blows your argument of justifying my investment out the water. Never draw conclusions in an argument without facts (as you tried to tell me, even though in my case I was quoting you!). My opinion is based on the use of a free phone so if i didn't like it i could easily say so and go back to using my old phone... no loss to me.

Note the general statement (not necessarily directed at you):

But often owners of a certain piece of hardware are so biased towards it that they'll look past any flaws just to reassure themselves that their latest R7000 investment was worth it.

Note the bit where I was speculating (because there's no way that I could have known how you obtained the phone):

As you seem to be doing...

It doesn't matter how you got the phone. You obviously don't want to go back to your old phone, eventhough you claim it would be no loss to you. But you clearly can't take it that someone says something "no-so-nice" about your phone.

Glad to see you have read all my posts... shows commitment (and thanks for posting it here, maybe i'll get some feedback now).

To be honest, I couldn't care what you said earlier. I just read the posts, gave my opinion and planned on never returning here...that is until I saw a bunch of N95 fanboys corrupting this thread with biased info.

As a result of having inherited it though I do not know what happened prior to me owning it hence me providing possibilities in my previous thread as to the screen issue and not jumping to conclusions. To advise someone to steer clear of the N95 based purely on the fact that I am having a screen issue as a result of unknown causes seems irrational. How would this help Pooky? My opinion was based on the knowns, not unknowns.

It would be a good idea to make better mention of the problem though (that would help Pooky):

Just a little screen issue now

I wouldn't call that problem "little".

By the way you do the whole "apparently" thing again in this last reponse... "they'll look past any flaws". We have still not established exactly what these flaws are but you keep referring to them.

For one, your phone's serious screen problem.

The odd java application doing "funky things" may well be down to a corrupt application or the actual programme itself being dodge. Is this a reason to steer clear of the phone?

No mate. Nothing wrong with the app. It works perfectly on other Nokia S60 3rd edition phones. There were a bunch of problems when installing java apps. Particularly with unsigned applications.

 

[LancelotSA]

You know what I am going to give up with you. Your arguments go in circles and lead no where.

You show your limited understanding with one comment - "We're talking about a cellphone here. Not a computer." You clearly still use your cellphone merely to make calls and send sms's. The future is an all encompassing device which does it all....

The cutting edge of technology is always going to have room for improvement. There is no final destination, but always rooms to improve. FYI, not only bugs are fixed with the updates....

You live with you dormant phone, I'll stick with my ever evolving device!

 

[Athlon64]

You know what I am going to give up with you. Your arguments go in circles and lead no where.

I disagree. Either you can't follow my arguments or you choose not to because of your biased view of things.

You show your limited understanding with one comment - "We're talking about a cellphone here. Not a computer."

When last have you heard of a phone which has had so many firmware releases? (maybe the N70 or 6600...but they fall into the disastrous category)

You clearly still use your cellphone merely to make calls and send sms's.

Please don't draw conclusions based on absolutely nothing.

The future is an all encompassing device which does it all....

That's really beside the point.

The cutting edge of technology is always going to have room for improvement. There is no final destination, but always rooms to improve. FYI, not only bugs are fixed with the updates....

Which improvements where included with the latest firmware update for your phone?

You live with you dormant phone, I'll stick with my ever evolving device!

As I have mentioned earlier in this thread, I am happy with my phone but I realise that it isn't as powerful than the N95 - after all, it costs half of what the N95 does! Apart from that, this thread was never about N95 vs K810i. I'm really happy for you that you like your phone. Just don't let that make you play down the problems which you have with your phone.

 

[LancelotSA]

OK Pooky, I think we have this settled then... even Athlon has said on a few occasions how powerful the N95 is

The HTC seems to not have any supporters!

And the K810i is not in the same class according to the resident expert...

 

[NoADSLyet]

Thanks Lancelot, very informative. The only reason I'm leaning toward the Touch is that it looks very nive and has a touch screen. Take those two facts out of the equation and I would go for the N95. The thing I'm concerned about mostly considering the N95, are the looks and size and weight. Apparently it is quite bulky.

My Daughter use the one N95 currently and she does not feel it's Bulky at all. She finds it effective as she types extremely fast on Mxit. But Yeah Everyone in his own den. Myself likes SE but they had nothing to compete at the time so instead of the P990 I chose a second N95. I do miss the SE touch screen but that is a small penalty to pay for better technology. I currently still use both the P900I and the N95 but more frequently the N95 now because of the GPS and advanced feature.

BTW If you load all kind of crappy downloaded Java Applications on any phone you are bound to pick up problems. Use the phone as supplied and you will have no issues. Only load software you need after some research.

 

[NoADSLyet]

I disagree. Either you can't follow my arguments or you choose not to because of your biased view of things

You fart with your mouth open.
I loaded three new releases not because of problems but I am a firmware Upgrade fanatic. The releases mostly were based around improving the GPS functions. I can load the original firmware and still will have no problems.

Go get a decent phone for some experience or ask dad. Maybe he knows better.

 

[Beri]

get the htc p3300. it is great

 

[Athlon64]

The HTC seems to not have any supporters!

Well...not the Touch anyway. It's apparently pretty slow because of its 200MHz CPU (compared with the TyTN II which has a 400MHz CPU).

You fart with your mouth open.
I loaded three new releases not because of problems but I am a firmware Upgrade fanatic. The releases mostly were based around improving the GPS functions. I can load the original firmware and still will have no problems.

I repeat:

lol...I always find it funny when people get upset when someone says something "nasty" about their latest expensive gadget. I'm really happy for you that you like your N95. I just thought Pooky might want to know some of the stuff which the average overly positive N95 user (such as yourself) won't mention.

Go get a decent phone for some experience or ask dad. Maybe he knows better.

My phone is decent, but again it seems you aren't following me at all. This was never a N95 vs K810i thing...

BTW If you load all kind of crappy downloaded Java Applications on any phone you are bound to pick up problems. Use the phone as supplied and you will have no issues. Only load software you need after some research.

Within the app itself...maybe (not if it works perfectly on other Nokia S60 3rd edition phones though). You shouldn't have problems when installing apps though - that's usually the result of firmware bugs.

I suppose it's pretty pointless to continue this argument. You guys can't provide an objective view of your phone because you couldn't imagine saying that there are problems with your R7000 investment. I hope I didn't make any of you guys cry when I said such horrible stuff about your phones..........

 

[Pooky]

Guys... Quit arguing, sort out your differences somewhere else. All I wanted was indeed peoples OPINIONS on which phone would be more suitable. The N95 or the Touch. I'm all for reccomending other phones as well, but please stop arguing about trivial matters.

Yes it would be preferable to have an objective view. Thank you both Athlon64 and LancelotSA for your initial info. Stop arguing please.

 

[NoADSLyet]

I suppose it's pretty pointless to continue this argument. You guys can't provide an objective view of your phone because you couldn't imagine saying that there are problems with your R7000 investment. I hope I didn't make any of you guys cry when I said such horrible stuff about your phones..........

Thats just the problem. You are assuming we have problems. Must have a crystal ball Head on top there. READ MY LIPS!

I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH TWO N'95's I NEVER REALLY HEARD OF ANY MAJOR PROBLEM TILL YESTERDAY ON MyADSL, about a screen failing, SO PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE IS THE PROBLEMS I AM HAVING BRIGHT BOY. LOL What a joker. He does not own the phone but act an expert! Geesh

I am running Route66, GArmin, Rotate me, The ball job and a few others. I installed one APP which would not work and deleted it. No problem. the phone does what I need it for. If you want to play games on it buy an PSP.

 

[Athlon64]

Sorry Pooky.

What do you plan on using the phone for? Business? E-Mail? You gonna take loads of pics? Do you need GPS?

 

[NoADSLyet]

Guys... Quit arguing, sort out your differences somewhere else. All I wanted was indeed peoples OPINIONS on which phone would be more suitable. The N95 or the Touch. I'm all for reccomending other phones as well, but please stop arguing about trivial matters.

Yes it would be preferable to have an objective view. Thank you both Athlon64 and LancelotSA for your initial info. Stop arguing please.

Don't be misled by an Anti Freak, Just do your own research on the net. I do not and did not experience anything worth mentioning with the N95. People know me I would be the first to mention it here and blast Nokia. He must have read something on a Athlon64 forum as I see no proof of his claims. Maybe he can post some links for you to do your own research on. You will soon realise by research if it is an isolated case or major issue.

Myself is waiting for SE reply on the N95, but my hopes is fading fast.

 

[Athlon64]

Thats just the problem. You are assuming we have problems. Must have a crystal ball Head on top there. READ MY LIPS!

I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH TWO N'95's I NEVER REALLY HEARD OF ANY MAJOR PROBLEM TILL YESTERDAY ON MyADSL, about a screen failing, SO PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE IS THE PROBLEMS I AM HAVING BRIGHT BOY. LOL What a joker. He does not own the phone but act an expert! Geesh

I am running Route66, GArmin, Rotate me, The ball job and a few others. I installed one APP which would not work and deleted it. No problem. the phone does what I need it for. If you want to play games on it buy an PSP.

Sorry. I should have worded that a bit differently. Essentially what I'm getting at is that you shouldn't attack someone who posted info which you can't verify yourself. Just because you haven't come across a problem (or chose to ignore it), doesn't mean that problems don't exist. I just provided my opinion. This is great because it indicates to Pooky that all might not be rosy in N95 land and that he/she should maybe do a bit more reading on the internet to see if the things he/she plans on using give problems.

Also, I don't play games. You get many Java apps which aren't games.

Now please stop this stupid argument. Let's help Pooky.

 

[NoADSLyet]

Sorry. I should have worded that a bit differently. Essentially what I'm getting at is that you shouldn't attack someone who posted info which you can't verify yourself. Just because you haven't come across a problem (or chose to ignore it), doesn't mean that problems don't exist. I just provided my opinion. This is great because it indicates to Pooky that all might not be rosy in N95 land and that he/she should maybe do a bit more reading on the internet to see if the things he/she plans on using give problems.

Also, I don't play games. You get many Java apps which aren't games.

Now please stop this stupid argument. Let's help Pooky.

Yeah I agree so start by posting links to all this problems you know so much about then Pooky can check and decide for himself. I only gave my opinion out of first hand experience on two n95's. Ditto

 

[Athlon64]

Yeah I agree so start by posting links to all this problems you know so much about then Pooky can check and decide for himself. I only gave my opinion out of first hand experience on two n95's. Ditto

Well...considering that I didn't find out about this on the internet, I have no links. Google is quite a useful tool though.....

 

[Athlon64]

Out of the goodness of my heart I did some research on N95 bugs on the internet. I came up with quite a few. Google and YouTube are good sources.

@LancelotSA: it seems that problem you're having is a common V20 problem: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUKswj13HZg&feature=related"]YouTube - Nokia Ν95 Screen Problem[/ame]

For more bugs, just follow the above link and check the related videos.

 

[Pooky]

Cool thanks. One thing I'm NOT going to be using the phone for is business. I don't need a good calendar or stuff like that. I want something that is relatively small, powerful as in playing many formats of sound/video etc.. camera is a nice bonus which would be used.
How good is the N95's camera? Does it even stand a chance against some of the normal digital cameras?

 

[sand_man]

Let me give you my 2cents worth pooky. I've had one or two issues with my N95. I had a problem with a vibrating earpiece and took it for repairs and since then it's been perfect. The phone tends to reboot on occasion for no apparent reason but it's not a major inconvenience! I haven't loaded any 3rd party apps as I'm primarily using the phone for making calls and sending and receiving sms's. In this capacity the phone is faultless. The camera is very effective but doesn't compare to a true digital camera.

I have a tytn too and it's very different to the Nokia, I'm not sure the 2 are comparable. They very different but I can tell you the HTC Touch with its 200mhtz processor has got to be a bit of a donkey and for that reason alone I wouldn't touch it. No pun intended. I would however jump at the tytnII which with its 400mhtz processor is a bit of a demon. There can't be much between the N95 and TytnII although they very different...