Is this what un-capped feels like?

The way you guys are bickering 0-0 lol

Do you think Telkom doesn't know about this ... paleez!
Their employees use the service don't they.
 
marine1 said:
Once again I am asking, do you or have you never pirated software or do you watch pirated movies or music? Sort of a rhetorical question ;)
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You see you have probably hit on the reason I battle to use my 30Gb per month. Perhaps we should be forwarding the details of those who claim 60Gb+ per months details to the "pirate catchers" as I am not sure what they are doing with 60Gb per month.
 
LancelotSA said:
You see you have probably hit on the reason I battle to use my 30Gb per month. Perhaps we should be forwarding the details of those who claim 60Gb+ per months details to the "pirate catchers" as I am not sure what they are doing with 60Gb per month.
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What you do with bandwidth is your business. (/privacy issue)
 
Lycanthrope said:
And have you noticed what kinds of caps are being "considered" internationally? A few hundred gigs. And you're comparing those of us who are chomping down on 20GBs to those overseas who download terabytes worth of data? Wow, wake up.
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As an apparent self professed "expert" in all things internet I am sure you are totally aware of the amount of bandwidth available in the US, for example, compared to good old SA? Of course you do.... stupid me to point it out :rolleyes:

hj2k_x said:
Exactly. It is not putting a strain on anything. Why have they not fixed it, if it is causing so much trouble/strain?
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Well, not "exactly" as what I said differed to what you were agreeing to ever so slightly! It is not being put under strain as not every man and his dog is aware of it and milking the cr@p out of it!

EchoZA said:
@LancelotSA your outlook on things always makes a good read, I try not to comment on your posts (for fear of looking like a blithering id10t) Good to see DBN people have such a lovely outlook on things ;) We need chat one day over a good bottle of wine!
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Thanks. However, I am hoping you are being genuine and not sarcastic. As you do tend to get a fair bit of the latter on here! ;)
 
Sackboy said:
What you do with bandwidth is your business. (/privacy issue)
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Agreed. And the idea that 60GBs "can only be used by pirating software" is pretty narrow-minded. Hi-res trailers, Ubuntu/Linux repos, online game downloads, online movie rental, patches, music downloads (legal), web2.0, streaming, you name it.

As I said in the other thread, Telkom's "usage" makes money off of the intellectual property (and the success thereof) of companies, advertising, software, data, movies, music, etc. since they charge you by how often you "access" another company's IP. It's sort of ironic, in a way, I think.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Agreed. And the idea that 60GBs "can only be used by pirating software" is pretty narrow-minded. Hi-res trailers, Ubuntu/Linux repos, online game downloads, online movie rental, patches, music downloads (legal), web2.0, streaming, you name it.

As I said in the other thread, Telkom's "usage" makes money off of the intellectual property (and the success thereof) of companies, advertising, software, data, movies, music, etc. since they charge you by how often you "access" another company's IP. It's sort of ironic, in a way, I think.
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True story. We have no idea what actually using the internet means. It certainly does not mean downloading illegal material. There is so much more out there, as you say.
 
LancelotSA said:
Well, not "exactly" as what I said differed to what you were agreeing to ever so slightly! It is not being put under strain as not every man and his dog is aware of it and milking the cr@p out of it!
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Well there must be a significantly larger amount of traffic than normal, and they seem to be coping just fine. And they have not fixed it yet, despite the fact that it is apparently costing them so much...
 
hj2k_x said:
I can see that we again differ in regard to this topic. However, surely if Telkom can do this, both logistically and apparently financially, then it goes to show that both the prices and caps to which we have been subjected up to now are inordinately disproportionate to those which we should be enjoying?
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Exactly my point. Telkom always talk about how they can't offer us bigger caps or uncapped as their infrastructure can't handle it. Will during this "uncapped" period my connection has never been better.
 
LancelotSA, please just get it out of your head that any usage in GBs that goes into double digit territory automatically means piracy, because it sure as hell doesn't.

What you fail to realise is that the rest of the world uses a single internet pipe into their homes that services all their connectivity needs i.e. multiple PCs in the house all sharing the same connection, Bluray players all pulling BD-Live contents, games consoles all downloading content from the same internet pipe.

I'm not saying piracy doesn't happen, just saying that 50GB+ is perfectly normal on a proper broadband connection and for you to cry 'pirate' just shows how out of touch you are with how the rest of the planet stays connected...seems Telkom have you pretty well brainwashed there.
 
LancelotSA said:
As an apparent self professed "expert" in all things internet I am sure you are totally aware of the amount of bandwidth available in the US, for example, compared to good old SA? Of course you do.... stupid me to point it out :rolleyes:
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Again - Telkom buys bandwidth. We buy bandwidth from Telkom. Then Telkom still places usage restrictions on the bandwidth we've bought. Make sense yet? Oh wait, why would it to someone as self-righteous as you? :rolleyes:

Telkom extorts its customers. That is a fact. If it couldn't afford "higher international bandwidth" then it should've sold less. But wait, if you can afford the usage, it's fine, right? Gee... Money-making much?

And you're proof of how easily the gullible, average Joe, believes the bull**** spewed. However, when we (eventually) have uncapped access at affordable costs, please be so kind as to stay on a 3GB cap in case your usage impacts the rest of us ;)
 
hj2k_x said:
Well there must be a significantly larger amount of traffic than normal, and they seem to be coping just fine. And they have not fixed it yet, despite the fact that it is apparently costing them so much...
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Well according to usual consensus on here no one in South Africa works on the weekend so that explains it! ;)
 
Lycanthrope said:
Again - Telkom buys bandwidth. We buy bandwidth from Telkom. Then Telkom still places usage restrictions on the bandwidth we've bought. Make sense yet? Oh wait, why would it to someone as self-righteous as you? :rolleyes:
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Two words... Economics 101. Well, to be fair, that might be tough for you to interpret (and yes, after the precedent set by you in your post I have no hesitation in being slightly insulting) so let me make it simpler - supply and demand. I'm not here to educate you. You do it yourself.
 
LancelotSA said:
Two words... Economics 101. Well, to be fair, that might be tough for you to interpret (and yes, after the precedent set by you in your post I have no hesitation in being slightly insulting) so let me make it simpler - supply and demand. I'm not here to educate you. You do it yourself.
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Supply and demand?

You're joking right? For the past 5 years, Telkom have been supplying a substandard product at ludicrously inflated prices with huge profits so obviously, not many people are chomping at the bit to sign up.
 
LancelotSA said:
Two words... Economics 101. Well, to be fair, that might be tough for you to interpret (and yes, after the precedent set by you in your post I have no hesitation in being slightly insulting) so let me make it simpler - supply and demand. I'm not here to educate you. You do it yourself.
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Brilliant. So you understand economics. Then you would understand the concept of a monopoly. Which would in turn mean you understand that their dominance equates to us being royally ripped. Which would leave you with the final conclusions of 1) it's not "right" or "fair" and 2) an eye for an eye is currently in effect in much the same way that a tiger having unfairly been fed on scraps for a decade while the tigers around him have been feasting, might jump at the chance to sink his teeth into that thick, juicy, tender rump much like a crazed, wild animal.

And as I've said in the other thread - the blame for that mentality lies squarely in Telkom's domain. I'll even take this opportunity to use your liberal reasoning - if you're given the freedom to download, you calm down in your usage. Why? Because there's not that, "need" to get "more" out of it because you know that should you ever "need" it, it's there. We don't have that, now we do, for a short, short time, and we would very much like to experience it while we can.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Agreed. And the idea that 60GBs "can only be used by pirating software" is pretty narrow-minded. Hi-res trailers, Ubuntu/Linux repos, online game downloads, online movie rental, patches, music downloads (legal), web2.0, streaming, you name it.

As I said in the other thread, Telkom's "usage" makes money off of the intellectual property (and the success thereof) of companies, advertising, software, data, movies, music, etc. since they charge you by how often you "access" another company's IP. It's sort of ironic, in a way, I think.
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This, I agree on wholeheartedly.

F**K telkom for making people feel the anger we have in us, for being made to pay again...and in many cases, even more in bandwidth costs, than the products...

Let's not even mention large "free download" products...

Or merely trying to play in a MMOG...
 
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Being accuse of theft or rape when you do the exact same thing....:rolleyes:
You watch movies that are downloaded, you listen to music that is downloaded, you use pirated software, you are just as guilty.
 
Lightscribe said:
If people hacked the bandwidth, it's theft.

Technical problems on Telkom's side, creating widespread "leakage" of bandwidth, is not theft of bandwidth by the client.
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So then looting an overturned truck is acceptable?
 
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