Israel's war on the Arabic language

lived666 said:
there are probably lots but I heard they too scared to speak Arabic.
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Reminds me of a story Gad Saad repeated as true on his podcast. I may have some small details wrong. A Israeli (don't know if J or A), social studies, princess decides to do a study on the rape of Palestinian women in occupied territories by Israeli soldiers. Results: there are no rapes of Palestinian women in occupied territories by Israeli soldiers. Conclusion: Palestinians are so dehumanized in the minds of Israelis that they can't bring themselves to rape Palestinian women.

And here you probably thought it was because the Israeli army maintains strict protocol and discipline and isn't comprised of a bunch of evil, hateful, dirty, Jews, you sick fcck. See how our defective, conservative brains just interpret the facts all wrong?
 
Pitbull said:
And then the people wonder why the world doesn't take it seriously?

They have cried wolf so many times now, the real issues are being ignored because of it.

Palestine's worse enemy? Anti-Israel people like this
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So the facts listed in the article are bogus? :rolleyes:

I think the world does take it seriously. That's why Israel's status around the world is shifting so dramatically to pariah status.

Denials that there is a problem only works against people who don't see a problem. Once you see a problem, all the denials in the world won't make it go away.
 
Xarog said:
So the facts listed in the article are bogus? :rolleyes:

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Maybe if articles like this stuck to just the facts without trying to conflate said facts with Israel waging a war on Arabic, then just maybe more people would more critically consider the situation in the region
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Xarog said:
How many drops of water do you have to count before you admit its raining?

Is the city ignoring the court order evidence of rule of law or not? Should it ignore the ruling or not? Should the people who want the ruling enforced protest or not? How should those that are protesting mobilise politically to get the change they want? Should they refrain from accusing the municpality of discrimination when you yourself claim that Sephardic Jews are overlooked because of racial differences?


If the Arab parties are "temporarily" banned from Parliament, does that look like the Israeli Arabs are getting to participate in the country's democracy or not?

At which point do they start to be able to conclude that the state of Israel is being racist? Can you please lay out what your expectations in this regard are?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israeli-palestinians-bill-idUSKCN0WU1PG <- should Arabs be worried? Yes/no. Should white people be worried if the ANC does the same here? Should Jews be worried if they pull this stunt in Germany? etc. (Just FYI, this article was linked to in the news24 article...)


Would you want people to have to pay for translators in South Africa? I know I wouldn't.

Can you offer one piece of criticism of Israel, Nick, or are you by extension admitting that it's beyond reproach? Cuz clearly according to you, no one should be upset at any of these things.
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Blat, blat, blat. You're neglecting to acknowledge that the support of your countries enemies would be viewed as treasonous by most civilised states and that they are not trying to ban all Arab MKs but those who are basically traitors of the state of Israel.

Ja, despite talking about objective criticisim I actually just think that Israel is beyond reproach.
 
Xarog said:
So the facts listed in the article are bogus? :rolleyes:

I think the world does take it seriously. That's why Israel's status around the world is shifting so dramatically to pariah status.

Denials that there is a problem only works against people who don't see a problem. Once you see a problem, all the denials in the world won't make it go away.
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It is?
 
Nick333 said:
Blat, blat, blat. You're neglecting to acknowledge that the support of your countries enemies would be viewed as treasonous by most civilised states and that they are not trying to ban all Arab MKs but those who are basically traitors of the state of Israel.

Ja, despite talking about objective criticisim I actually just think that Israel is beyond reproach.
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Right, I'm sure the ANC would say the same thing about the DA. Owait, they already do... :rolleyes:

Why's it any different, Nick?

Also, why did you dodge the other questions? Is it because you can't provide a reasonable standard as to what constitutes behaviour Israel can be criticised for?
 
Xarog said:
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Last week Palestinian members of Knesset switched from Hebrew to Arabic as they gave speeches protesting at the first reading of a bill widely seen as paving the way to banning Zahalka's Balad party from the legislature. Zahalka and two other Balad MPs are currently suspended from the parliament.
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If the Arab parties are "temporarily" banned from Parliament, does that look like the Israeli Arabs are getting to participate in the country's democracy or not?
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You seem to infer here that Arab parties have been banned from parliament for switching to arabic from hebrew
This is not the case
Firstly they were suspended for supporting families of assailants the Knesset sees as terrorists ....
Three Arab-Israeli lawmakers were suspended on Monday from speaking in parliament as punishment for supporting families of Palestinian assailants killed by security forces after they attacked Israelis.
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Secondly they have been barred from plenum and committee business ... not banned .. and they can still participate in voting
The Knesset Ethics Committee ruled that Balad party members Hanin Zoabi and Basel Ghattas would be barred from plenum and committee business for four months and Jamal Zahalka for two months, but they will be able to vote.
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Thirdly ... only 3 members of the Balad party have been suspended. The political party itself continues to operate unharrassed
 
McSack said:
You seem to infer here that Arab parties have been banned from parliament for switching to arabic from hebrew
This is not the case
Firstly they were suspended for supporting families of assailants the Knesset sees as terrorists ....

Secondly they have been barred from plenum and committee business ... not banned .. and they can still participate in voting

Thirdly ... only 3 members of the Balad party have been suspended. The political party itself continues to operate unharrassed
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stop posting truths and logic in these threads
 
McSack said:
You seem to infer here that Arab parties have been banned from parliament for switching to arabic from hebrew
This is not the case
Firstly they were suspended for supporting families of assailants the Knesset sees as terrorists ....
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That's not what I asserted. What I asserted is that such moves and the hostility towards Israeli Arabs will be seen by Israeli Arabs as an attack on their ability to participate in their democracy.

Are you claiming the accusations against the Arab parties are reasonably well-founded?

Secondly they have been barred from plenum and committee business ... not banned .. and they can still participate in voting
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What's that got to do with the new law that passed the first hurdle?

Thirdly ... only 3 members of the Balad party have been suspended. The political party itself continues to operate unharrassed
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See above. Points 2 and 3 address an argument I did not make.
 
Xarog said:
That's not what I asserted. What I asserted is that such moves and the hostility towards Israeli Arabs will be seen by Israeli Arabs as an attack on their ability to participate in their democracy.

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You're the one whacking on about people abiding by the rules ... they were found guilty of breaking the rules of parliament ... they were suspended ...
Are you now saying that people should be allowed to break rules when they feel like it?
 
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