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Linux desktop growing - Shuttleworth
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AirWolf
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I read:
"Linux software is so crap by comparison to MS that we are relying on the entire computing perception to change before Linux is adopted. And I hope to god MS write an online office suite, cause so far the open source muppets have missed the mark."
ROFL!
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Shame poor troll, you read that cos it was in your imagination and not the article
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to rule them all
its one thing MS got right
still use netbeans but that is for java dev only.
I dont know how true that it. From my perspective, the company I work through sells perhaps. 100 desktops, 30 laptops a week. Of those, at least 90% of those are downgraded to XP. Those are just the new sales.
We also have many many many laptops/pc`s being brought in by customers who have bought them elsewhere to get downgraded to Xp.
Vista is bad for business.. and its not even all that great for gaming. According to PC Format/ Steam only 2% of the gamers out there are running DX10+.
Its orsm :>
I read:
"Linux software is so crap by comparison to MS that we are relying on the entire computing perception to change before Linux is adopted. And I hope to god MS write an online office suite, cause so far the open source muppets have missed the mark."
ROFL!
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I think our windows astroturfer's above comments are a good argument to how MS makes people think less
Ag.. you cant even get upset.. because thats all they know.
The_Unbeliever
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Funnily enough, the biggest challenge to Window's dominance on the desktop in the future won't be from advances in Linux but from increased Microsoft bending to the will of organizations like the RIAA and MPAA. The more MS hobble Windows with DRM and the like, the more people will look for alternatives and land up at Linux.
I think our windows astroturfer's above comments are a good argument to how MS makes people think less
Ag.. you cant even get upset.. because thats all they know.
I don't get upset anymore when people who have become accustomed to using the virus-infested company's OS <apparently called Windows>. I just feel really sorry for them because they haven't gotten a chance to know any better.
@Slappy- PM me. That I may help you find the truth.....
+1. I am really not impressed by M$'s attempt at DRM. If I own something I want to be able to use it without any restrictions or otherwise....
Are you sure? - IMO M$ has put more effort into M$DOS and keeping M$DOS alive and kicking as the foundation on which all Windoze versions appear to be built.
Eclipse.org, and it's multi-platform as well, i.e. you can run it in Windoze as well as Linux, etc.
I don't know what VS2008 is like, but I absolutely hate VS2003 which I'm forced to use for work, I prefer VS6 to VS2003 - honestly.
To be fair, Visual Studio is better than Windoze, but M$ really should do something about MFC - something about babies & bathwater comes to mind.I reckon Visual Studio might be the only thing Microsoft ever got right.
I think its important to point out that Mark Shuttleworth realised a looooooong time ago the stigma that linux had about being hardcore and difficult for 'normal' users. One of the primary goals of the Ubuntu project has been user friendliness.
Each new Ubuntu release (which comes out every 6 months mind you) has a noticeable improvement in its usability. In my opinion the learning curve from XP -> Vista is now the same as XP -> Ubuntu.
Many of the Linux distro's are still only good for the 'enthusiasts' but there are a few that are quite solid in the hands of basic computer users. The *buntu family takes the top spot on that list.
I now have a number of friends of mediocre computer ability that are running pure Ubuntu (not even dual stacked) systems. Once I installed the OS for them and got the drivers working they have been quite comfortable with their machines for over a year. I also haven't needed to do as many 'support' calls as the friends still running Windows
Each new Ubuntu release (which comes out every 6 months mind you) has a noticeable improvement in its usability. In my opinion the learning curve from XP -> Vista is now the same as XP -> Ubuntu.
Many of the Linux distro's are still only good for the 'enthusiasts' but there are a few that are quite solid in the hands of basic computer users. The *buntu family takes the top spot on that list.
I now have a number of friends of mediocre computer ability that are running pure Ubuntu (not even dual stacked) systems. Once I installed the OS for them and got the drivers working they have been quite comfortable with their machines for over a year. I also haven't needed to do as many 'support' calls as the friends still running Windows
I think its important to point out that Mark Shuttleworth realised a looooooong time ago the stigma that linux had about being hardcore and difficult for 'normal' users. One of the primary goals of the Ubuntu project has been user friendliness.
Each new Ubuntu release (which comes out every 6 months mind you) has a noticeable improvement in its usability. In my opinion the learning curve from XP -> Vista is now the same as XP -> Ubuntu.
Many of the Linux distro's are still only good for the 'enthusiasts' but there are a few that are quite solid in the hands of basic computer users. The *buntu family takes the top spot on that list.
I now have a number of friends of mediocre computer ability that are running pure Ubuntu (not even dual stacked) systems. Once I installed the OS for them and got the drivers working they have been quite comfortable with their machines for over a year. I also haven't needed to do as many 'support' calls as the friends still running Windows
I agree with you there. Some people might complain that a 6-month release cycle is annoying and they should rather stretch it to one year, I disagree however. A 6-month cycle might not produce a <perfect> product, but don't tell me M$ has done better with their 3-year cycle. Ubuntu has hit the nail on the head with everything they have done and with the community input they are producing a distribution that is better and better with every release. Also, not to forget the user-friendliness that Ubuntu has, much above some of the other distro's I've used and seen, not they aren't user-friendly.