Marikana Shootings Farlam Commission Thread

LazyLion

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Miner Breaks Down, Cries at Farlam Commission

Lonmin miner Mzoxolo Magidiwana broke down and cried on Wednesday when new footage of the August 16 shooting at Marikana, North West, was shown at a Farlam Commission of Inquiry hearing in Rustenburg.

Commission chairman, retired judge Ian Farlam, adjourned the hearing as Magidiwana sat with his head bowed and crying.

"It is terrible," said Farlam. "Even if he is prepared to carry on, I don't know if we should subject him to further interrogation," he said.

The new footage of the shooting was shown by advocate Dali Mpofu, for the injured and arrested miners.

"It is definitely new footage, although it shows old footage. It is definitely new footage," he said.

The eNews footage was a live crossing on the telephone to a reporter in Marikana, with a camera recording the actions of miners and the police.

The reporter said the police had told him they ran back after inhaling gas while trying to disperse the crowd, and said they saw about three guns in the miners' possession.

The video showed the police shoot the miners, and later showed men lying in pools of their own blood on the ground.

Mpofu said he discovered this clip and a shorter clip from the SABC while looking for the two journalists Magidiwana claimed had seen the police assaulting him.

Earlier, Farlam appealed to the media to make all the footage of the day available. Mpofu made a special appeal to the SABC.

"I am aware that there is an ethical implication," he said. "I would like to make a special appeal to the SABC... to release material."

The commission is probing the deaths of 44 people during an unprotected strike at Lonmin's platinum mine in Marikana.

On August 16, 34 striking mineworkers were shot dead and 78 were injured when the police opened fire while trying to disperse a group gathered on a hill near the mine.

Ten people, including two police officers and two security guards, were killed near the mine in the preceding week.

This was the second time the commission adjourned on Wednesday for Magidiwana, 23, to compose himself.

During his re-examination the miner started crying when he spoke about the advice and warnings he received from his father to not join the strike, but to return home to the Eastern Cape.

The commission again heard how the miners ran away from the water sprayed by the police on the day.

Magidiwana asked why, if they ran away from water, they would run towards guns.

He also told the commission that if the miners had wanted to attack the police, they would have started with two police officers standing on the side and not the group of officers.

Mpofu asked: "On August 16, did anyone address the group and ask [them] to put down weapons?"

Magidiwana, speaking through an interpreter, said no one had.

As the commission adjourned, people in the public gallery, dressed in National Union of Mineworkers attire, said Magidiwana was purposely crying. They said they had never seen a man cry so much.

National police commissioner Riah Phiyega is expected to testify before the commission after the re-examination.


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Date : 13 Mar 2013 13:52
 

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'I Did not Laugh': Phiyega

National police commissioner Riah Phiyega on Thursday denied she laughed and joked while footage of the August 16, 2012 Marikana shooting was being shown to the Farlam Commission of Inquiry.

"That was personally a very hurtful observation. It is not only inhuman, it is totally out of my personal character and not true," Phiyega told the commission.

"I reject that with every part and measure of my being... What happened that day [August 16] is regrettable."

Phiyega was responding to a report in the Times in October that she joked with a state law adviser while a prelude to the killings was being screened.

She said reading the reports was hurtful and that nobody's name should be "dragged" like that "for no reason".

Phiyega started giving evidence on Thursday morning on the role played by police in the events leading up to and on August 16, when 34 striking mineworkers were shot dead and 78 injured when police opened fire near Lonmin's platinum mine in Marikana.

Ten people, including two police officers and two security guards, were killed near the mine in the preceding week.

The commission heard that Phiyega called the minister of police on August 16 to inform him about the shooting and tell him she would "attend to the matter personally".

"The events at Marikana in August 2012 are of concern to me as well," she said.

Phiyega said the events of that day had no place in the country's history.

The hearing continues.


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Date : 14 Mar 2013 13:13
 

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If I was told that the miners thought they were bulletproof because they drank some juice before watching the video I'd laugh.
 

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If I was told that the miners thought they were bulletproof because they drank some juice before watching the video I'd laugh.

That's inhumane but not out of your personal character.
 

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I am sorry but wtf were the police suppose to have done? Outnumbered and after the mobs have already killed more than once.
 

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The sangoma believed to have performed rituals on protesting Lonmin mineworkers in Marikana, North West, has been gunned down, the Farlam Commission heard on Monday.

At the resumption of the public hearings in the Rustenburg Civic Centre, advocate Ishmael Semenya, for the police, told retired judge Ian Farlam that the man was shot on Sunday.

"It was with a deep sense of shock to learn about the assassination of the sangoma (implicated) in the Marikana muti rituals. He was gunned down in the early hours of yesterday morning," said Semenya.

He said police had been making efforts to bring the sangoma to testify as a witness before the commission.

No further details were given but Farlam said the murder was "obviously a serious matter".

Information on social networks indicated that the sangoma was killed at his home in Bizana, Eastern Cape.

The hearings on Monday started off with the testimony of national police chief Riah Phiyega.

Last week Phiyega was accused of having rushed to issue a news statement to absolve police from the shootings at Marikana.

Evidence leader Mbuyiseli Madlanga also suggested the statement was not well considered. Phiyega replied at the time: "I stand by my statement".

She was testifying at the commission of inquiry into the shooting that claimed the lives of 34 miners.

"The impression I get is that you rushed to issue a press statement that absolved the police service from any wrongdoing, without knowing other versions," Madlanga said.

"On a matter of such gravity -- unprecedented as you call it -- you should have taken time to consider what others that had knowledge of what had taken place had to say on the subject. Did you not consider that?"

Phiyega responded: "Our statement and the facts it had was well considered, and it was important to us as the SA Police Service to give an account as of the 17th of what we have observed had happened, and that is the statement we gave."

Madlanga said only two of the officers who helped compile the statement were "on the ground" when the shooting took place.

Phiyega said the statement was compiled by commanders from the joint operations centre.

"To the best of my knowledge and information what we presented on the 17th were the facts," Phiyega said.

She said if new facts were available it should first have been presented to her before she considered it.

On August 16 last year, 34 striking mineworkers were shot dead and 78 were injured when the police opened fire near Lonmin's platinum

mine in Marikana.

Ten people, including two police officers and two security guards, were killed near the mine in the preceding week.


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Date : 25 Mar 2013 10:51
 

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Sorry no sympathy from me what so ever!

Don't really think sympathy with this con-artist is the issue. The issue is the Commission of Inquiry should have heard from him. Who hired him? Who paid him? Who would benefit from his eternal silence? Who (possibly) offed him?
 

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So the white rabbit took revenge…


Artists impression of the killer....
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Hemi300c

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Don't really think sympathy with this con-artist is the issue. The issue is the Commission of Inquiry should have heard from him. Who hired him? Who paid him? Who would benefit from his eternal silence? Who (possibly) offed him?

And I would believe every word he said, even under "oath".........................................
 
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