[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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Paul_S said:
At least with cloned/stolen plates it will be easier to prove it was not your vehicle since you can see the driver's face or the type or colour of the vehicle does not match.
With a stolen e-tag you better hope that SANRAL can provide a photo otherwise you're going to have fun proving that it was not your vehicle.
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Good luck with that one.

I once got a fine for going through a red robot, in a part of town I NEVER went into on a day that I was at varsity. Took the time, went to the relevant police station, looked at the photo and saw that it wasn't my car, it was an OCR error. Instead of doing the right thing and squashing the fine, they made me go to the Prosecutor about 5kms away to get the fine squashed. I parked in the court parking lot, went up to the prosecutor, waited the hour to see him, was told he needed to see the current license disc from my car. I went down to my car, retrieved the license disc, went back up to the prosecutor and went back down to my car (I was about 25 minutes doing this), get back to my car to find a new fine plastered to my windscreen for not having/not displaying a current license.

They will find a way to make you pay your money...
 
ToxicBunny said:
... get back to my car to find a new fine plastered to my windscreen for not having/not displaying a current license.
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Hahaha! That is hilarious (only because it didn't happen to me). :D
 
Paul_S said:
Hahaha! That is hilarious (only because it didn't happen to me). :D
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For a naive little student it wasn't such a pleasant experience.

All worked out in the end with a bit of crapping on the Station Commander from a few people including a lawyer.
 
So I hear that OUTA are in court today, again.

Another dismissed case?
 
Tander said:
So I hear that OUTA are in court today, again.

Another dismissed case?
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Yep, weren't you here when the ANC carefully decided to announce on the court date that e-tolling was going ahead? Clearly a veiled threat to the courts.
 
Wyzak said:
Yep, weren't you here when the ANC carefully decided to announce on the court date that e-tolling was going ahead? Clearly a veiled threat to the courts.
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That's where I'm going with this. But let's wait and see. OUTA say they are optimistic. But why would they say anything else.
 
http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Outa-loses-Supreme-Court-appeal-20131009

The Supreme Court of Appeal on Wednesday dismissed an appeal by the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) in its e-toll challenge against the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral).

Judge Fritz Brand said the appeal was refused and no order for costs was made.

However, the judge said the order granted by the High Court in Pretoria directing the appellants to pay the respondents' costs was set aside and replaced by an order that there be no order for costs.

The high court granted Outa leave to appeal against a previous judgment it handed down.

Outa argued, on appeal in the lower court, it had misinterpreted a section of the Sanral Act on public consultation to reach its ruling that e-tolling could proceed.

Last year, the high court ruled that e-tolling could proceed because the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project had been lawfully instituted.

Outa is a civic action group of business associations and individuals formed in March 2012 to challenge Sanral's decision to implement e-tolling of the recently upgraded freeway network in Gauteng.

Outa believes e-tolling is illegal and unreasonable.
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The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

I'm still not buying an etag. Now all that is left is to test the etolling law in courts.

Wonder if there is an option to take it to the constitution court
 
No surprises here. :(

Even if OUTA come back and fight the Bill that was signed into law, I think they will loose that one too.

The only way to stop these tolls is not to buy eTags. I would say also, not to pay, but I'm sure most of us don't want criminal records now, too.
 
So now the case against the constitutionality of the transport bill goes ahead.
 
Sinbad said:
No, this was that appeal...
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OUTA launched two cases: An interim interdict (ultimately rejected by the CC) and a full blown review. This decision by the SCA was on the review application, and may still be appealed to the CC.
 
E-Toll Tarrifs Published for Comment

The proposed tariffs for e-tolling have been published in the Government Gazette and the public has 30 days to comment, the transport department said on Wednesday.

"We encourage the public to participate in this process to ensure that their views are taken on board," spokesman Tiyani Rikhotso said in a statement.

"The minister of transport will consider the input before making a final determination on the tariffs that motorists will pay on the tolled road network."

Earlier on Wednesday, the Supreme Court of Appeal in Bloemfontein dismissed the latest challenge by the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance to e-tolling of Gauteng's freeways.

The department published information in the gazette relating to the implementation of e-tolling. The four sets of regulations were on the conditions of tolling, exemption from tolling, e-toll road signage, and e-toll specifications.


Source : Sapa /mjs/hdw/th/ks
Date : 09 Oct 2013 17:42
 
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