Mecer 2400VA Inverter (Community Support)

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Zenbaas said:
Who is a good suppliers in Kzn for a mercer inverter/hubble battery combo..? Want to get one for the folks but I believe where they stay shipping may become an issue.
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I would give Shumata.com a call. Legit, and maybe organise the combo rather than the online store options.
 
@Zenbaas

The Mecer 2400va 24V LBKS inverter was very well priced at the big "yellow & black warehouse" this past weekend. Priced cheaper than when we bought ours a couple of years back.

Just dont know where you will get the Hubble S210s at a good price, or a place that has stock.
 
Apologies if covered already.. battery issues

So i have a very basic setup for loadshedding purposes.
Mecer 1440W inverter connected to 2x 12V 100aH Deep Cycle Gel batteries (brand - Vision).
Inverter about 2 years old and new batteries bought 13 months ago.
I have a power meter also connected between the mecer and devices and my load never exceeds 280W (one TV, wifi/router, dstv, 2x laptops)
Lately with loadshedding lasts about 45 mins before the inverter shuts down and used to easily carry 2-3 hours in the past.
The Batteries are under a 2 year warranty and I have taken them in this morning to get tested.

could it also be the inverter potentially being faulty? just prepping if the distributor comes back and says the batteries are fine. what is my next step?

second question re the mecer - how good is the battery management system on it (suspect very minimal if any) just worried the mecer might be killing the batteries (DoD/SoC not calibrated properly?) as no option to 'set it up' as it is pretty much a plug and play device.

thanks in adv
 
scubasteve1 said:
Apologies if covered already.. battery issues

So i have a very basic setup for loadshedding purposes.
Mecer 1440W inverter connected to 2x 12V 100aH Deep Cycle Gel batteries (brand - Vision).
Inverter about 2 years old and new batteries bought 13 months ago.
I have a power meter also connected between the mecer and devices and my load never exceeds 280W (one TV, wifi/router, dstv, 2x laptops)
Lately with loadshedding lasts about 45 mins before the inverter shuts down and used to easily carry 2-3 hours in the past.
The Batteries are under a 2 year warranty and I have taken them in this morning to get tested.

could it also be the inverter potentially being faulty? just prepping if the distributor comes back and says the batteries are fine. what is my next step?

second question re the mecer - how good is the battery management system on it (suspect very minimal if any) just worried the mecer might be killing the batteries (DoD/SoC not calibrated properly?) as no option to 'set it up' as it is pretty much a plug and play device.

thanks in adv
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Pretty dumb device so just charges as normal with no pulse de-sulfation.

Nothing really to set. So if you battery's can handle charging 10/20A @ 28.8V (14.4 x 2) & Float @ 27.7V (13.8 x 2) you should be OK.

SA current LS schedule have kill a couple of Lead Acids out there so might be the same? (LA/AGM/GEL not made for daily charge/discharge.)
 
scubasteve1 said:
Apologies if covered already.. battery issues

So i have a very basic setup for loadshedding purposes.
Mecer 1440W inverter connected to 2x 12V 100aH Deep Cycle Gel batteries (brand - Vision).
Inverter about 2 years old and new batteries bought 13 months ago.
I have a power meter also connected between the mecer and devices and my load never exceeds 280W (one TV, wifi/router, dstv, 2x laptops)
Lately with loadshedding lasts about 45 mins before the inverter shuts down and used to easily carry 2-3 hours in the past.
The Batteries are under a 2 year warranty and I have taken them in this morning to get tested.

could it also be the inverter potentially being faulty? just prepping if the distributor comes back and says the batteries are fine. what is my next step?

second question re the mecer - how good is the battery management system on it (suspect very minimal if any) just worried the mecer might be killing the batteries (DoD/SoC not calibrated properly?) as no option to 'set it up' as it is pretty much a plug and play device.

thanks in adv
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Sadly that is due to the load shedding and also allowing it to run down to 10%.
 
Cumulus said:
I am quite new to this forum. Have a Mecer Pure Sine wave inverter plus two 100Ah AGM batteries (24V) 3000VA. Lately, this setup only lasts for about 01:30 of load-shedding, in the past, it lasted for up to 5 hours.

I bought it from Geewiz, batteries are still in the guarantee period. Geewiz said I should take the batteries to Mustek for testing and/or replacement.

Mustek told me 3 working days to get an answer after delivery of the batteries to them. Is this par for the course? Any suggestions or advice, please.
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Successful battery replacement. All working OK, supplier (Mustek) replaced both batteries under guarantee.

Good service by all concerned.
 
The following seems identical to the Synapse 600W pure sine wave inverter, which is sourced from Must Power, just rebranded and at a very good price of R1650:

https://www.takealot.com/rt-systems-600watt-inverter/PLID72018762

Only problem with this Must Power 600W pure sine wave inverter is the noisy frequently on fan apparently.

This is the cheapest I have seen this inverter priced at.

Probably a good buy for what it is.
 
Specs for the Synapse 600W inverter:

https://www.futurama.co.za/catalog/...7/s/synapse-ups-inverter-600w-12v-dc-230v-ac/

DESCRIPTION
The Synapse UPS Inverter - 600W 12V DC, 230V AC is designed to work and protect electronic appliances and serves as a backup device in extremely hostile power environments. It comes with an AC input that allows the battery bank to be charged through the grid (cable included). An extra wide input AVR conserves battery for added security. Includes a multi-stage surge suppressor which can protect from surges and spikes.

Please Note:

The UPS unit does not come with Solar capabilities.

Fan is very loud and comes on frequently, generally during charge



FEATURES
Pure sine wave output
Smart LCD setting (frequency, charge voltage, charge current, etc)
Overload and short circuit protection
Battery reverse polarity protection (Optional)
Deep discharge protection
Cold start function


SPECIFICATIONS
Inverter Output
Default Battery System Voltage 12V DC
Rated Power 600w
Surge Rating (20ms) 1800w
Waveform Pure Sine Wave
Rated Output Voltage Inverter 230V AC (+/- 2% RMS), AVR 195V AC - 245V AC
Inverter Efficiency (Peak) >75%
Bypass Efficiency >95%
Output Transfer Time Typical: 6ms 10ms (Max)
Battery
Minimum Start Voltage Low Battery Voltage Cutoff +0,5V
Low Battery Alarm Low Batter Voltage Cutoff +1V
Low Battery Cuttoff 10-12V DC
High Battery Cutoff Nominal Voltage +0,5V
AC Charge
Floating Voltage 13,5 / 13,6 / 13,7V DC
Nominal Voltage 13.8 -14,5V
Maximum Charge Current 600W
Bypass & Protection
Input Waveform Pure Sine Wave
Input Frequency 50Hz or 60Hz
Low Frequency Trip 45+ / -0.2Hz
Low Frequency Trip 65+ /0.2Hz
Overload Protection 110% 125% R Load fault after 30S 125% 150% R Load fault after 3s > 150% R Load fault after 500ms
Over Temperature Protection > 90C
Bypass Output Protection 10A 250V AC
Output Circuit Protection YES
Mechanical Specification
Dimensions 385 x 325 x 190mm
Weight 8kg
Shipping Dimensions 420 x 385 x 225mm

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Anything to be concerned of, other than the loud fan?
 
joshuatree said:
Specs for the Synapse 600W inverter:

https://www.futurama.co.za/catalog/...7/s/synapse-ups-inverter-600w-12v-dc-230v-ac/

DESCRIPTION
The Synapse UPS Inverter - 600W 12V DC, 230V AC is designed to work and protect electronic appliances and serves as a backup device in extremely hostile power environments. It comes with an AC input that allows the battery bank to be charged through the grid (cable included). An extra wide input AVR conserves battery for added security. Includes a multi-stage surge suppressor which can protect from surges and spikes.

Please Note:

The UPS unit does not come with Solar capabilities.

Fan is very loud and comes on frequently, generally during charge



FEATURES
Pure sine wave output
Smart LCD setting (frequency, charge voltage, charge current, etc)
Overload and short circuit protection
Battery reverse polarity protection (Optional)
Deep discharge protection
Cold start function


SPECIFICATIONS
Inverter Output
Default Battery System Voltage 12V DC
Rated Power 600w
Surge Rating (20ms) 1800w
Waveform Pure Sine Wave
Rated Output Voltage Inverter 230V AC (+/- 2% RMS), AVR 195V AC - 245V AC
Inverter Efficiency (Peak) >75%
Bypass Efficiency >95%
Output Transfer Time Typical: 6ms 10ms (Max)
Battery
Minimum Start Voltage Low Battery Voltage Cutoff +0,5V
Low Battery Alarm Low Batter Voltage Cutoff +1V
Low Battery Cuttoff 10-12V DC
High Battery Cutoff Nominal Voltage +0,5V
AC Charge
Floating Voltage 13,5 / 13,6 / 13,7V DC
Nominal Voltage 13.8 -14,5V
Maximum Charge Current 600W
Bypass & Protection
Input Waveform Pure Sine Wave
Input Frequency 50Hz or 60Hz
Low Frequency Trip 45+ / -0.2Hz
Low Frequency Trip 65+ /0.2Hz
Overload Protection 110% 125% R Load fault after 30S 125% 150% R Load fault after 3s > 150% R Load fault after 500ms
Over Temperature Protection > 90C
Bypass Output Protection 10A 250V AC
Output Circuit Protection YES
Mechanical Specification
Dimensions 385 x 325 x 190mm
Weight 8kg
Shipping Dimensions 420 x 385 x 225mm

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Anything to be concerned of, other than the loud fan?
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The fans only come on during battery charge on my Synapse 600w ,very good Inverter
 
What batteries are you guys using?
No need to go into the technical aspects. I am looking at batteries and stuff like this pops up:

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We also can't say without a doubt how the batteries were used and for how long.

What batteries are you guys using in your systems?
 
Hellhound105 said:
What batteries are you guys using?
No need to go into the technical aspects. I am looking at batteries and stuff like this pops up:

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We also can't say without a doubt how the batteries were used and for how long.

What batteries are you guys using in your systems?
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I was using 2 old industrial batteries up till the end of 2020, then I got some Royals just after April lockdown and those lasted well, they still seemed to be working when I sold the unit to a colleague last week.
Oh I can no longer comment here :-(, after 7 years I no longer have the old girl.
 
Lupus said:
I was using 2 old industrial batteries up till the end of 2020, then I got some Royals just after April lockdown and those lasted well, they still seemed to be working when I sold the unit to a colleague last week.
Oh I can no longer comment here :-(, after 7 years I no longer have the old girl.
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Thanks, what did you run from it and for how long?
 
Hellhound105 said:
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Thanks, what did you run from it and for how long?
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Those ones but damn didn't pay that price, was like R1500 or so back in 2020.
I ran my laptop, speakers, 32" LG monitor from them, it was a variety of speakers, the last lot of speakers gave me about 135 to 150w load on the system with, it would last easily past 6 hours, but past that I don't know.
In the past I ran my 50" TV and DSTV decoder on it for about 10 hours.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Those are ****

Had 2 for about a year. Same load that lasted 4 hours end up not keeping lights on for 2h30. Never dipped bellow 50%

Would not recommend.

Now On Sako 24V 100 AH LifePO4
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All LA is pretty &&&%$%$# and considering I've now had 4 different brands, surprisingly the Royal lasted the longest.
 
Lupus said:
All LA is pretty &&&%$%$# and considering I've now had 4 different brands, surprisingly the Royal lasted the longest.
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Only ever seen complaints about them, but the again could be cause of the chemistry (Lead acid)

Financially does not make sense to go LA.
R2500 for 200 cycles vs
R6000 for 2000. (2000/10 = 200)

Its a no brainer.

Edit: Added sales pitch, unlike my LA days I don't even reduce my consumption anymore with current LS...
I just go on as normal, not even watching the V meter anymore for dreaded 50%.
 
Lupus said:

Our Range | Chamberlain

Chamberlain Famous For Hardware since 1903
www.chamberlains.co.za www.chamberlains.co.za
Those ones but damn didn't pay that price, was like R1500 or so back in 2020.
I ran my laptop, speakers, 32" LG monitor from them, it was a variety of speakers, the last lot of speakers gave me about 135 to 150w load on the system with, it would last easily past 6 hours, but past that I don't know.
In the past I ran my 50" TV and DSTV decoder on it for about 10 hours.
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AlphaJohn said:
Those are ****

Had 2 for about a year. Same load that lasted 4 hours end up not keeping lights on for 2h30. Never dipped bellow 50%

Would not recommend.

Now On Sako 24V 100 AH LifePO4 Could not be happier.
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Lupus said:
All LA is pretty &&&%$%$# and considering I've now had 4 different brands, surprisingly the Royal lasted the longest.
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Thanks for all the inputs.

Busy prepping to build a system and trying to see best ones to get.

Not a big fan of humanities best effort way of storing energy but it is what we have.

Currently have a wide variety of UPS and Inverters laying around and each requiring new batteries.

At this stage I'm looking to power my whole internet system and looking at batteries that wont go "You discharged me 30% Senpai, I'm bugging out"
 
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