MWEB Uncapped Subscribers Feedback

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No - Wilgers ;) No such area in Pretoria as Willows

Anyways , I switched to my Telkom account for tonight , Even browsing takes forever on Mweb today
 
calvincoetzee said:
could be certain areas, im sure not all the mweb customers connect to one point, so i think we connect to regional access points.. im not 100% sure, completely basing this on my own understaning.
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It is likely that Gauteng has more than one access point, but every CT user on this forum seems to be complaining! Tracert indicates that all routes from CT first go to Jhb, before branching off elsewhere (even back to CT if the destination site is in the same city!)

All CT users seem to have minimum ping times of 30ms (at best), and much worse (50-150ms) when the CT/Jhb line is congested.

TonyA said:
May have to take the same route and get a separate capped account with someother than MWEB:(
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The MWeb representative has assured us that things will improve once more capacity is added. They did not specify that CT/Jhb was the 'bottleneck', but it seems most likely given all the extra traffic on this route.
 
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Gordon_R said:
It is likely that Gauteng has more than one access point, but every CT user on this forum seems to be complaining! Tracert indicates that all routes from CT first go to Jhb, before branching off elsewhere (even back to CT if the destination site is in the same city!)

All CT users seem to have minimum ping times of 30ms (at best), and much worse (50-150ms) when the CT/Jhb line is congested.
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MWEB can you comment on this please !
 
TonyA said:
MWEB can you comment on this please !
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The MWeb representative has not commented in any detail on my questions about routing. Others have suggested this is 'propriatary' information, and unlikely to be disclosed, so I stopped asking.

I don't have any inside knowledge as to what MWeb's routing and ISP-peering arrangements are, and they could change over time.

IMO the ping times speak for themsleves, and these recent thread topics are self-explanatory:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?223147-Tracert-on-Mweb-uncapped
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?223508-Latency
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?223531-Mweb-local-pings!!!!!!!
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned before but I've been monitoring my MWEB account and it seems they throttle ALL P2P, even download sites like Rapidshare (quickshare even) from 07:00 - 23:00, so you basically only get full speed @ night. Not to bad though, I can pull about 10GB's during the night and I get about 3-4 GB's during the day ( speeds go down to about 200KB's on Astraweb). I'm OK with that, but it's the latencies that put me off, I had a latency of 700ms to games.saix.net tonight, while the downloads were OFF. I know these accounts are not for gaming but this is very bad, can't really do much gaming @ all with this, maybe turned based games or something that you don't need low latency to play on.

EDIT: Some results, just did a speedtest.net

 
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I'm in the armpit of ZA, the Eastern Cape (despite Axxess being in PE) and I can officially say that as of 00:25, my web has been freed! Hopefully the situation with poor pings is resolved soon, but otherwise I reckon I am getting what i'm paying for.
 
Ok, so they (MWEB) are flexible on the times they 'open the pipes' however, they are very strict on 8am when they close the pipes.
Over the last week, they have been opening the pipes at random times, but anything from 10pm onwards - however, every single day, 8am sharp, they close it.
 
gdiza said:
Ok, so they (MWEB) are flexible on the times they 'open the pipes' however, they are very strict on 8am when they close the pipes.
Over the last week, they have been opening the pipes at random times, but anything from 10pm onwards - however, every single day, 8am sharp, they close it.
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Makes sense, they never "open the pipes". P2P is shaped all the time, and will only run fast when the network is not congested (i.e. when people go to bed). This will vary from day to day, as people leave downloads running. However, 8am is normally the time businesses start, so there will be an immediate load on the network, and the shaper pushes everything down in response, other than the prioritised protocols.



 
I don't mind P2P getting shaped at all during the night , but when I have difficulty Reading my E-mails and browsing the internet 9:00pm at night and have to switch to my telkom account - Not cool:confused:

What i mainly do after 8 pm at night is Stream music at 128kbps and browse the internet , and I've never really experienced buffering . But Mweb was so bad last night that It even buffered on the 32kbps AAC+ Channel -.-. and thats bits not bytes.
 
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TonyA said:
Any improvent on speeds and latency?
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Ping times are up and down, from minute to minute, depending on traffic load, bandwidth, shaping, etc. You can easily run a tracert or ping from the command prompt (won't harm your computer).

I'm using iol.co.za (CT based) and telkomsa.net (Jhb based). As at 08h20 these give tround-trip times of 52ms and 33ms. When heavily congested last night these were 150ms and 100ms respectivly.

If the line was 100% clear the theoretical minimums would be about 30ms and 20ms respectively (CT/Jhb one or two round-trips).

I used to get ping times of 8-9ms on the SAIX backbone to sites based in the same city. Those days seem to be over...
 
gdiza said:
Ok, so they (MWEB) are flexible on the times they 'open the pipes' however, they are very strict on 8am when they close the pipes.
Over the last week, they have been opening the pipes at random times, but anything from 10pm onwards - however, every single day, 8am sharp, they close it.
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my astraweb download is still running at 300kB/s+ so not to sure about the closing the pipes part.
 
KaMoS said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned before but I've been monitoring my MWEB account and it seems they throttle ALL P2P, even download sites like Rapidshare (quickshare even) from 07:00 - 23:00, so you basically only get full speed @ night. Not to bad though, I can pull about 10GB's during the night and I get about 3-4 GB's during the day ( speeds go down to about 200KB's on Astraweb). I'm OK with that, but it's the latencies that put me off, I had a latency of 700ms to games.saix.net tonight, while the downloads were OFF. I know these accounts are not for gaming but this is very bad, can't really do much gaming @ all with this, maybe turned based games or something that you don't need low latency to play on.

EDIT: Some results, just did a speedtest.net

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it amazes me that up till today a lot of folks openly and with absolutely no shame admit that they download every frikking movie, cd they can get there hands on. it is really amazing, especially in sa where theft is part of daily life. has it ever crossed their minds that they create a number of problems? one of the 'fears' isp's have is that all that downloading via torrents creates bottle necks for the rest of us. reality or not, that is their biggest fear.
 
ten bottles of heineken said:
it amazes me that up till today a lot of folks openly and with absolutely no shame admit that they download every frikking movie, cd they can get there hands on. it is really amazing, especially in sa where theft is part of daily life. has it ever crossed their minds that they create a number of problems? one of the 'fears' isp's have is that all that downloading via torrents creates bottle necks for the rest of us. reality or not, that is their biggest fear.
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And? So? But? Therefore?
 
milomak said:
my astraweb download is still running at 300kB/s+ so not to sure about the closing the pipes part.
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What region are you in?

Maybe they 'throttle, shape' users differently according to region?!?

(fishing here, but there has to be some sort of way of trying to figure how they do it because I doubt they will be honest)
 
MWeb uncap SUCKs badly and i have waisted a good 500R. Its so unstable that al my connections (VPN, IM's, Outlook) lose connectivity 3-4 times a day. Even after i have connected MWeb they still didnt resolve this problem.

I get 20kb/s P2P download during the day and about 100kb/s spiking after office hours. USENET servers dont. They use the argument that they shape P2P download to prevent Ilegal downloads. OMW... WoW and LoL (games) uses it to update. Anime and Linux (ISO and Apps) are totaly legal and uses P2P downloads. And afrihost uses the same argument.

you cant play games without lag. during the day or after office hours. (warcarft 3 its local, and battelfield)

So if you enjoy a game during the day or just play WoW or LoL or uses P2P downloads for anime and Linux stuff. Or just want a stable connection that doest drops 3-4 times a day. THIS AINT FOR YOU
 
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