Nelson Mandela

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He built bombs that was used to KILL people. I just want 1 single person to explain to me why to this day this man is glorified? He didn't even end Apartheid, De Klerk did.
 
Last year my headmaster asked me to organize something. I told him I thought it was a load of crap ("pot kak" was my exact words) ... he agreed and we did nothing. This year the regional office are checking up on all to schools to do it.
 
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Apache said:
But did he actually commit any terrorist acts or was it more foot soldiers?
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How convenient.

I give the order for your family to be killed, you would be cool with me, but you'd need to only angry with those who carried it out. Awesome.


Garyvdh said:
That was what the whole truth and reconciliation commission was about, it gave these people a way to get amnesty without actually having to make any actual personal apologies. :mad:
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I guess we will never truly knew whether nor not the ANC really saved the day or if they were just a tool... like for example to save the stock exchange and keep up the self enrichment machine already set in motion.
 
honestly dont even think Madiba is in his senses anymore. Last time i seen him on the news, guy looked totally out of it.
 
naeem said:
honestly dont even think Madiba is in his senses anymore. Last time i seen him on the news, guy looked totally out of it.
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I'd agree on that, ANC seems to be just pulling the strings for the madiba in a box :mad:
 
naeem said:
honestly dont even think Madiba is in his senses anymore. Last time i seen him on the news, guy looked totally out of it.
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I have a friend that was recently in touch with his family, old Madiba is old, pretty much completely senile. Some people think he is going to live forever, yes he has lasted but time is getting shorter. I'm afraid for when that day comes.
 
BLIXEMPIE said:
He built bombs that was used to KILL people. I just want 1 single person to explain to me why to this day this man is glorified? He didn't even end Apartheid, De Klerk did.
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De Klerk only made the announcement. Do you know that PW offered to release Mandela in 1985, but he refused to accept the conditions of that release? I think those who never suffered will ever understand why he is revered. You're probably too young to get it.
 
ChocolateBadger said:
I have a friend that was recently in touch with his family, old Madiba is old, pretty much completely senile. Some people think he is going to live forever, yes he has lasted but time is getting shorter. I'm afraid for when that day comes.
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Be afraid... very afraid....
 
R13... said:
De Klerk only made the announcement. Do you know that PW offered to release Mandela in 1985, but he refused to accept the conditions of that release? I think those who never suffered will ever understand why he is revered. You're probably too young to get it.
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There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.
 
killadoob said:
There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.
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...And then ol Zuma came along
 
killadoob said:
There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.
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I was afraid to say you either never suffered or you're an obtuse idiot :D.
 
killadoob said:
People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.
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Me too, the TRC proved the MK weren't the only ones committing terrorist activities. De Klerk okay'd a few bombings himself.
 
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