Neotel NeoConnect put to the test

Theres no chance of using the available amount of local bandwidth without using any media-rich activities, like p2p or a local version of youtube or something. I think that could be the next step for SA before international bandwidth becomes more affordable: local companies providing media-rich content to South African internet users; like a south african version of youtube.

We do, sort of, have a South African version of YouTube - Zoopy.
 
Theres no chance of using the available amount of local bandwidth without using any media-rich activities, like p2p or a local version of youtube or something. I think that could be the next step for SA before international bandwidth becomes more affordable: local companies providing media-rich content to South African internet users; like a south african version of youtube.

Personally I find the focus on local bandwidth/traffic frustrating, this is essentially the only SA site I visit, I want to be able to access proper international sites like Youtube, not bastardised SA versions.
 
Personally I find the focus on local bandwidth/traffic frustrating, this is essentially the only SA site I visit, I want to be able to access proper international sites like Youtube, not bastardised SA versions.

Agreed :D It's the outside world people generally want to reach out to. I don't exactly see myself playing a South African-based MMORPG.
 
USB to Ethernet converters are available for +- R400 and they seem to work really well.

Why should we have to?
Just because we're 3rd world, doesn't mean that they have to dump some outdated handsets from the back of a forgotten Chinese warehouse.
Its only an ethernet port for Flip's sake!

They probably got the Russell Peter's treatment from the little Chinese salesman when buying those handsets: "Hey! Be a man! Do the right thing!" :rolleyes:

I will wait until I see what the commercial released product looks like with caps before I get excited... and if the caps are not acceptable I will be letting Neotel know that they have not done enough to entice me to use them as a service provider, and I would urge everyone else to do the same instead of just not taking the product we need to let them know they've fscked up and how many clients they haven't been able to attract by not being "innovative" enough.

I agree - that's why I've maintained I'll be waiting on JHB and PTA to be the Guinea Pigs on this one! Hehe.

I thought Neotel was supposed to be a FIXED LINE service provider.:confused: According to this they are wireless thus still not competing on a level playing field with Telkom. If the internet is slow now imagine how slow its gonna be when more users come on board. ping = 500ms+

Where have you been for the last year or two? :p All of the press releases and articles leading up to this point have spelled out how they were rolling out. CDMA 1st with fixed line connnectivity to come in 2009. Though the dates have been shuffled around for the last 2 years - you know, just a 100 days here and there. ;)

Dude...get a life. World of ****ers isn't the beginning and end of everything. You guys make me sick.

Anyways..back on topic...I'm also angry with Neotel because of this crap offering...hope they improve it before the launch.

Amen!

Shoo - its taken alot of time getting through this thread :D

But I'm in agreement with the general sentiment here.
I admit I got all excited when rph 1st came about with info regarding to the launch of the R499 offering. Guess I'm back to my pessimistic attitude concerning the SNO :(
Though it must be said, that the experience I had with their call centre and their agents when I called in on Friday was excpetional.
The agent promised to call me back at 15h30 with info regarding the size of caps and the prospective dates when they would be implemented.
I got the call, but no concrete info. Only the likelyhood that it would be 2months down the road when they started implementing their capping strategy.

The fact that its uncapped on trial - smells like a means to get people hooked up and then a month or two later, to cap their asses and leave them (us all) in the same boat we are now with Telscum.
Not being able to be on the net while making a call at the same time is ludicrous - laughable, disgusting! Outside investors will be looking at this with great concern I imagine.
Customer satisfaction is already down the tubes because of this oversight!
And this without them even having any residential clients!

Then the matter of local vs international? There's no word on that.
Why that distinction even needs to come into play, is our worst nightmare!
I don't mind the latency issues, for now - its a wireless based technology and I think we were all of expectant of the results.
As an online gamer, yes it affects me, but I don't really play that much these days anyway.

At this point in time, I'm dissapointed.
Telscum will be having a field day with this one.
Already they're implementing (or have implemented) upgrades for 4mb ADSL users. At this rate all they need to do is drop the rental, push me up from 384k to 512k speeds and I'll be happy - in 3rd World SA anyway. :rolleyes:

Having to pay for extra bandwidth on top of R499 is not going down well with me! Unless they stipulate how much bandwidth I'll be getting with the initial price.

At this rate it looks dismal for Neotel.
At R499 for the premium service, which offers a rather entry level package... they're chasing people off.
I think Telscums doNoband offerings are more competitive than this, with all the free mins, etc.

To Ajay Pandey, Angus Hey and all the rest of Neotel:
Catch a bleddy wakeup!!!!
You're up against a monopoly that already are in people's homes with offerings as cheap as R120 rental for the year.
To get people rushing over in droves, you're going about it the wrong way. :o
You're meant to come in here and shake things up a bit.
It seems you're more along the lines of showing some seriously inept initiatives.
 
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I just cannot believe that it will be a service where you either are connected to the internet OR you can make a phone call/ fax.

I cannot see who on earth this would benefit?

That is even before we get into pricing, capping, international vs local bandwidth or ping times...
 
Why should we have to?
Just because we're 3rd world, doesn't mean that they have to dump some outdated handsets from the back of a forgotten Chinese warehouse.
Its only an ethernet port for Flip's sake!

Exactly, even if I was only going to use this on one computer why would I switch from having Wifi coverage everywhere that allows me to access 4MB ADSL to having to carry around a stupid USB phone along with my laptop.
 
I just cannot believe that it will be a service where you either are connected to the internet OR you can make a phone call/ fax.

I cannot see who on earth this would benefit?

That is even before we get into pricing, capping, international vs local bandwidth or ping times...

QFT!

Seriously man - Ajay Pandey's claim to "Telecomms Fame" was overhauling India right?
Whatever errors were encountered in that arena should surely not be repeated here?
Seriously!!!!
What the hell are they on about?

Just found this:

http://www.neotel.co.za/neotel/view/neotel/en/page514

Ajay is a Mechanical Engineer from REC Kurukshetra, an alumnus of London Business School and a Fellow of the Telecommunications Executive Management Institute of Canada. He has published a book titled "Are You Fishing In the Right Ocean" - a self-help book for young and upcoming professionals. He is pursuing his PhD in Leadership styles from BITS Pilani.

Note to self - don't ever attend Telecommunications Executive Management Institute of Canada! One too many days spent in the Canadian blizzards has you forgetting the basics. Ethernet! Ethernet! Ethernet!

As for "Are You Fishing In the Right Ocean" - that is something the MD needs to review! And vinnig nogal! :sick:
 
QFT!

Seriously man - Ajay Pandey's claim to "Telecomms Fame" was overhauling India right?
Whatever errors were encountered in that arena should surely not be repeated here?
Seriously!!!!
What the hell are they on about?

Just found this:

http://www.neotel.co.za/neotel/view/neotel/en/page514



Note to self - don't ever attend Telecommunications Executive Management Institute of Canada! One too many days spent in the Canadian blizzards has you forgetting the basics. Ethernet! Ethernet! Ethernet!

As for "Are You Fishing In the Right Ocean" - that is something the MD needs to review! And vinnig nogal! :sick:

Exactly. They are failing at the very first hurdle. heck, it's not even a hurdle!
 
One has to wonder if Neotel even peruses this site the commentary we're giving?
Will they make the changes in alignment with our outcries here?
I doubt it.
We're a realtively small community in comparison to the rest of the nation that they'll be targeting.
But with these kind of offerings, they're really up for a battle to get a slice of the pie.
Their "knives" are rather blunt at the moment.
 
One has to wonder if Neotel even peruses this site the commentary we're giving?
Will they make the changes in alignment with our outcries here?
I doubt it.
We're a realtively small community in comparison to the rest of the nation that they'll be targeting.
But with these kind of offerings, they're really up for a battle to get a slice of the pie.
Their "knives" are rather blunt at the moment.

Even the average unknowledgable person on the street will know that this isn't even better than the Telkom garbage we have at the moment.:o
 
Even the average unknowledgable person on the street will know that this isn't even better than the Telkom garbage we have at the moment.:o

Tis true.
This kind of (mis)innovation allows Telscum to yet again have some breathing room. Allowing them to bask in their profit margin without concern. :mad: :o
 
Tis true.
This kind of (mis)innovation allows Telscum to yet again have some breathing room. Allowing them to bask in their profit margin without concern. :mad: :o

I'll still be interested to see what Telkom do in terms of price reductions in August.
 
I'll still be interested to see what Telkom do in terms of price reductions in August.

I suppose that they're in good position now to wait and see what Neotel can come up with till then.

We would only have an understanding of what difference there may be (if at all) with regards to Neotel's price per Gig in comparison with Telscum, by that time.

By the look of things Neotel would have implemented their capping strategy by then and there would be more insight into what the next year or two may hold.

Will Neotel be on par, under, or even over what the monopoly is currently selling at?

All the talk firstly from Neotel about wanting access to SAT3 to pass on savings to clients and then backtracking on that statement to say that they're not in position to make any inroads with the access they've received, because of the "cartel" running the cable...bleh bleh.

The Beast will be sitting back and watching carefully to see what may happen.
They find themselves in position to either push back with cheaper offerings, but with a longer contractual obligaion I'd imagine or to simply bombard the media with Neotel's (failing?) strategy.
They've always pushed the point that the current DSL strucutre is under pressure - no one's fault but their own! :mad:
So they're looking at Wimax to compensate.
They're under "pressure" :rolleyes: wrt to SLA's and admittedly they've picked up their feet in some regards with actaully installing lines in under 30 days.
But then we cannot forget that so many are still infuriated and battling to get the simplest things out of the monopoly.

Agh - I'm so tired - I can't even try to make sense of where I'm going with this :p Nearly time to go home...
 
some good news....i emailed that address and got a reply in under half an hour, at 9 30PM :eek:

but they not trialing services in durban yet according to that guy
 
One has to wonder if Neotel even peruses this site the commentary we're giving?
Will they make the changes in alignment with our outcries here?
I doubt it.
We're a realtively small community in comparison to the rest of the nation that they'll be targeting.
But with these kind of offerings, they're really up for a battle to get a slice of the pie.
Their "knives" are rather blunt at the moment.

We may be small but we're relatively influential, I'm sure a lot of people on here have a lot of influence over the purchasing decisions of people around them.
 
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