New e-toll proposal expected soon: Mokonyane

Mokonyane was also hopeful that Gauteng residents would understand that an investment had been made and what was due had to be paid.
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An investment in what?
 
MartyMarts said:
An investment in what?
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The investment in the tolling system of course.

I want to see the the total Sanral has received from fuel levy's and taxes over the last 5 years and how they have spent that money.
I want to know exactly how much they have paid on the construction of the Gauteng highways and I want to see if those prices are market related.
I also want to know what the deadlines where/are for the construction to be completed and what penalties have/will be imposed.
I want to know who is taking responsibility for the poor roadmarking and lack of safety signage on all the highways that have caused no many accidents over the past few years.

WHEN (not if) it comes out that they have overpaid for everything because tenders where bought I want all relevant people to not only be prosecuted, but convicted.

Then I will pay e-toll.



Short version:

I will never pay e-toll.
 
Madman88 said:
The investment in the tolling system of course.

I want to see the the total Sanral has received from fuel levy's and taxes over the last 5 years and how they have spent that money.
I want to know exactly how much they have paid on the construction of the Gauteng highways and I want to see if those prices are market related.
I also want to know what the deadlines where/are for the construction to be completed and what penalties have/will be imposed.
I want to know who is taking responsibility for the poor roadmarking and lack of safety signage on all the highways that have caused no many accidents over the past few years.

WHEN (not if) it comes out that they have overpaid for everything because tenders where bought I want all relevant people to not only be prosecuted, but convicted.

Then I will pay e-toll.



Short version:

I will never pay e-toll.
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Well said.This tolling is b*llsh*t!

I mean really...they waste millions on non essential stuff and then they wanna charge us for this stuff.I know someone that does BIG HR restructuring and projects for government and the stuff he tells me is shocking,mismanagement is a huge issue and a large portion of the 200 municipalities are now bankrupt.
 
This e-toll was a disastrous idea from the start. Should have been made a fuel levy instead of building unnecessary gantries and wasting money on the e-toll system.

Mbuzi said:
We gonna burn those gantries
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Please do. I'll even pay you.
 
Just more money for the gravy train.
As it is the money that Sanral now gets and spends is unaccounted for, this will just add fuel to the corruption fire.

Without full transparency, and audited accounts for every cent, no way.
 
I have two words to say to our esteemed Premier, one starts with F and the other starts with O
 
...finding a solution that does not expose the integrity of the country.”
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Expose the integrity? Ha. We don't have integrity. There's none to be exposed!
I think the word she was looking for was "corrupt", or "undermine".

Ah, the funny things our politicians say.
 
Unless the proposal is to get rid of it, I'm not interested. You waste the money that should go to roads, on insane tenders, parties, German SUVs, and keeping crooks out of jail, and now want us to pay again? Get ****ed!
 
Raising the fuel levy is hurting the common man more than anyone else.
Public transport have their fuel subsidized. (Have you ever seen a taxi throwing in fuel at a garage next to you?)

A better method of raising fiscal income would be to add 1% to VAT. That way everyone gets to pay.
People that aren't paying income tax will still have to buy everyday items in shops, so they will be taxed in that regard as well, instead of riding on the gravy train that is income taxation.
 
Firstly, I refuse outright to pay for something I've already paid for. @#$% you.

Secondly, you would complain if you received substandard goods that you'd paid for, so why do I need to pay for substandard roads?

In addition to the faults listed above, the tar from at least as far back as Beyers Naude to Rivonia has shifted terribly and is dangerous, damaging and annoying. The section from Fourways to Rivonia, in the rain, is positively suicidal. I was caught up there in a BIG storm a few weeks ago and every car in every lane through the one section was aquaplaning. Scary stuff!

In conclusion, I'd like to sign off by, again, saying #%@$ you.
 
pezulu said:
Raising the fuel levy is hurting the common man more than anyone else.
Public transport have their fuel subsidized. (Have you ever seen a taxi throwing in fuel at a garage next to you?)

A better method of raising fiscal income would be to add 1% to VAT. That way everyone gets to pay.
People that aren't paying income tax will still have to buy everyday items in shops, so they will be taxed in that regard as well, instead of riding on the gravy train that is income taxation.
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Well, actually I have. That doesn't mean its not subsidized tho.
 
The improvement process was the problem child all along. We have been immensely overcharged; we upgraded roads that didn't need upgrading; we were subjected to a dictatorial decision-making process when the decision was made; the impact assessements were never completed properly; the forecasting was all wrong; the numbers were fudged when certain irregularities were highlighted; alternatives were snubbed because the decision was made by a dictator with a vested interest etc etc etc.

The tolling system really has become a necessary evil because of all of the poor (and possibly corrupt) decisions made back in 2007. It is the most fair system of the lot as it is the only way to broaden the tax base effectively without prejudicing other provinces. A fuel levy doesn't actually solve the problem to be honest and creates a pretty piss-poor precedent.

Even a boycott will result in higher taxes as the costs have already been incurred for the province. We either bankrupt the province or cough up. That's the ridiculous situation our useless bloody ANC-led government has placed us in. It is all a part of their Robin Hood strategy, which according to whispers in the hallway is an actual ANC policy that remains under wraps (for now)...
 
So, you guys want me here in Cape Town to pay extra tax for a fancy road in Joburg?
 
DJ... said:
It is all a part of their Robin Hood strategy, which according to whispers in the hallway is an actual ANC policy that remains under wraps (for now)...
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Steal from the rich (and the poor) and give to themselves?
 
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