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I am thinking of paying a bit extra and get this AOC monitor:


instead of the Wootvison one:


Reasons being, it is in stock and has slightly lower response time (Fast IPS vs Normal IPS).

Any thoughts?
 
I am thinking of paying a bit extra and get this AOC monitor:


instead of the Wootvison one:


Reasons being, it is in stock and has slightly lower response time (Fast IPS vs Normal IPS).

Any thoughts?

I think Fast IPS is just marketing nonsense (MSI has their own Rapid IPS) - they're probably the same panel underneath. The peak brightness, contrast, response times all point to it being the same panel just packaged differently.

That's how it goes - the OEMs buy panels and package them up to hit different price-points. IMO, you'd be paying for the AOC brand name and their marketing budget without much in the way of return.

Still up to you and not wanting to wait is reasonable.
 
I think Fast IPS is just marketing nonsense (MSI has their own Rapid IPS) - they're probably the same panel underneath. The peak brightness, contrast, response times all point to it being the same panel just packaged differently.

That's how it goes - the OEMs buy panels and package them up to hit different price-points. IMO, you'd be paying for the AOC brand name and their marketing budget without much in the way of return.

Still up to you and not wanting to wait is reasonable.
Yeah, I think I am overthinking it.

Just gonna keep with the Wootvision for now, its arriving on the 11th, so not that far away.

As a side note, attended comicon the past weekend. There was a booth with OLED tvs/monitors with games on them.

Holy sheet! I can fully understand when people are raving about them, seeing them in the flesh makes it clear when people refer to the 'deep contrast' and 'rich/vibrant colours' in reviews.

Really tempting to save up for one to buy one day. This is one technology I really hope becomes mainstream.
 
Yeah, I think I am overthinking it.

Just gonna keep with the Wootvision for now, its arriving on the 11th, so not that far away.

As a side note, attended comicon the past weekend. There was a booth with OLED tvs/monitors with games on them.

Holy sheet! I can fully understand when people are raving about them, seeing them in the flesh makes it clear when people refer to the 'deep contrast' and 'rich/vibrant colours' in reviews.

Really tempting to save up for one to buy one day. This is one technology I really hope becomes mainstream.

I'd go for the AOC.

Besides being the Wootware brand which is not a monitor producer, it looks heavy and bulky.

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Compared to the AOC:

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Dont get a gaming card if you want to do animation. They honestly suck for that.

Here is why. Get a Quadro/RTX. Ive had to yank some gaming cards and basically bin it for friends' businesses who needed 3d rendering done but was sold a gaming card. Its just not the same. Gaming cards are great for gaming, but for rendering and animation you need a proper workstation level graphics card.


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This comment is in general and not only aimed at your post.

Now do it again and compare a Quadro RTX to its Geforce RTX alternative. In fact, chuck in an Geforce RTX for the same price as the Quadro.

Then do a price to performance ratio as well.

I'm all for Quadro, but the price does not justify the performance.

The APU's and NPU's also have become more powerful that there are times I just completely disable the Quadro for fun and it works surprisingly well. I mean, you only spin the car in 3D for so long before you get back to work.

The professional software industry is a cesspit of cash grabs and using software to limit that which they don't "certify"
 
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Yeah, I think I am overthinking it.

Just gonna keep with the Wootvision for now, its arriving on the 11th, so not that far away.

As a side note, attended comicon the past weekend. There was a booth with OLED tvs/monitors with games on them.

Holy sheet! I can fully understand when people are raving about them, seeing them in the flesh makes it clear when people refer to the 'deep contrast' and 'rich/vibrant colours' in reviews.

Really tempting to save up for one to buy one day. This is one technology I really hope becomes mainstream.

Found an identical looking monitor to the wootware one on Alibaba. This one is 360Hz though: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/SANC-27-inch-Fast-IPS-native_1601010171240.html

So yeah, definitely just a China store re-badge.
 
Thanks, interesting find!

But these days, aren't most companies selling monitors just re-badges, i.e. same OEM factory, just slap on different holding case, badge etc? But the core tech is the same (or from same factory)?

AOC is a US company based in Taiwan and actually manufactures their own monitors. And looking at rtings they make some very decent products...

With Alibaba goods you don't really know what you're getting in terms of quality/performance and you generally can't trust the specs. Also there's little info regarding color quality etc.

But just looking at the design you can see it's not as polished and sleek.

Personally I'd just spend the extra few hundred. Else you might as well buy a monitor from China directly.
 
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Yup.


Though I didn't see it in the article being mentioned, but the only thing extreme about these two pastes are the extreme pump-out that will occur over long-term use. Pump-out with Kryonaut can come early. The Extreme might last a little bit longer due its better grade silicone oil.

I always recommend Hydronaut over Kryonaut. According to the article, it seems that Thermal Grizzly might adapt their pastes to newer conditions. They did launch a new company, Polar Therm, which will be competing with Arctic. I like to use MX-6.

For people who want to build a system with not as much maintenance. Just use a 'non-silicone' paste, well, all pastes contains silicone, but some contains more than others. As with all these things, do your research and don't read into the marketing. The numbers and the promises are wrong.

Sometimes you can get Cooler Master's MasterGel Maker on special, like the odd R100-something. Not a bad paste, but not close to the best either though suitable.

A trusted paste is Corsair's XTM70, but it expensive. Just get MX-6/4, price pending. I see some people use Halnziye pastes, but there are also many clones which isn't Halnziye, and some Halnziye is high on silicone. I use HY510 on DIY things because it is cheap, but I won't use it on something pushing ~75° Celsius. There are better grade Halnziye pastes. I have never used HY880.

Read Igor's reviews, he is doing some thermal paste database. Not all pastes are available here.

Otherwise, use phase change thermal pads. I still need to test the ID-Cooling pads, but it not Honeywell's PTM7950 neither a clone. Will see.
 
Yup.


Though I didn't see it in the article being mentioned, but the only thing extreme about these two pastes are the extreme pump-out that will occur over long-term use. Pump-out with Kryonaut can come early. The Extreme might last a little bit longer due its better grade silicone oil.

I always recommend Hydronaut over Kryonaut. According to the article, it seems that Thermal Grizzly might adapt their pastes to newer conditions. They did launch a new company, Polar Therm, which will be competing with Arctic. I like to use MX-6.

For people who want to build a system with not as much maintenance. Just use a 'non-silicone' paste, well, all pastes contains silicone, but some contains more than others. As with all these things, do your research and don't read into the marketing. The numbers and the promises are wrong.

Sometimes you can get Cooler Master's MasterGel Maker on special, like the odd R100-something. Not a bad paste, but not close to the best either though suitable.

A trusted paste is Corsair's XTM70, but it expensive. Just get MX-6/4, price pending. I see some people use Halnziye pastes, but there are also many clones which isn't Halnziye, and some Halnziye is high on silicone. I use HY510 on DIY things because it is cheap, but I won't use it on something pushing ~75° Celsius. There are better grade Halnziye pastes. I have never used HY880.

Read Igor's reviews, he is doing some thermal paste database. Not all pastes are available here.

Otherwise, use phase change thermal pads. I still need to test the ID-Cooling pads, but it not Honeywell's PTM7950 neither a clone. Will see.

This is the kind of thing P Diddy was posting on baby oil sub-reddits.

I keep it real and use Vaseline.
 
This is the kind of thing P Diddy was posting on baby oil sub-reddits.

No wonder he is thermal throttling.

I keep it real and use Vaseline.

Just get an AM5 CPU retention bracket, when you want to overspend, or an AM5 thermal paste guard, no Vaseline needed :p

This said, now with the new Intel CPUs:


LGA 1700, center hot spot
AM5, hot spot shifted SOUTH
LGA1851, hot spot shifted NORTH
RIP cooler manufacturers...

I think most coolers will be OK... For those which are not, I am sure that they will do the Arctic thing and make a retention bracket to adapt the mount to the hotspot.

Regardless, the new Intel CPU's might very well now need a goo guard. Though not a requirement.
 
So I'm still potentially looking at getting a new pc for home. Sole purpose is gaming of which the kidlets do a lot and I jump in when I get a chance.

Things to consider:

- 4k gaming is not required, pc will be connected to a Dell S3222DGM QHD monitor which I'm not replacing
- I personally don't care for RGB, having it makes no difference to me
- Would like avenues open for upgrades in the future
- All components will be run stock standard with no overclocking etc. from my end

Wootware put this together:


I'm happy with the 7800x3d and 4070ti Super, 32gb of memory and 2tb of storage should also be fine.

I have not idea what motherboard to go for taking upgradability into account.

I'm sure a couple of Rk could be knocked of the price by taking different components so am open to advice.
 
So I'm still potentially looking at getting a new pc for home. Sole purpose is gaming of which the kidlets do a lot and I jump in when I get a chance.

Things to consider:

- 4k gaming is not required, pc will be connected to a Dell S3222DGM QHD monitor which I'm not replacing
- I personally don't care for RGB, having it makes no difference to me
- Would like avenues open for upgrades in the future
- All components will be run stock standard with no overclocking etc. from my end

Wootware put this together:


I'm happy with the 7800x3d and 4070ti Super, 32gb of memory and 2tb of storage should also be fine.

I have not idea what motherboard to go for taking upgradability into account.

I'm sure a couple of Rk could be knocked of the price by taking different components so am open to advice.


Some improvements that I feel are better suited.
 
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