New The PC Build Thread

Ever since Tech Yes City released its two videos, some motherboard vendors have stopped dancing around the issue (or non-issue). ASRock being the hardest hit with the issue, well, they have rushed AGESA 1.2.0.3d to their B850 and X870 motherboards.

For those who have AM5 (B850/X870) ASRock motherboards, it is downloadable here: https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS

Is it advisable to update? Dunno, my Gigabyte X870 haven't shown those issues, except it did when the new chipset drivers did not play along with AGESA 1.2.02b IIRC. Though I think it had more to do with how Gigabyte packaged the chipset, since AMD didn't make the driver available until the 9900/9950X3D launch. I am currently running AGESA 1.2.0.3b PatchC with no noticeable issues.

I think it won't be long until others roll out AGESA 1.2.0.3d.

Anyhow.
 
What do you guys think about this build? This will be used for gaming 80% of the time.


I see on Wootware they have some good 34" monitors, which one would you recommend between these ones?

Alienware - AW3425DWM

Dell - S3422DWG

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ASUS - VG34VQL3A

Samsung - LC34G55TWWPXEN
 
eddybsb4u said:
What do you guys think about this build? This will be used for gaming 80% of the time.


I see on Wootware they have some good 34" monitors, which one would you recommend between these ones?

Alienware - AW3425DWM

Dell - S3422DWG

Dell S3422DWG 34" UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz 2ms VA AMD FreeSync Premium Pro VESA Display HDR 400 1800R Curved Gaming Desktop Monitor - Wootware

Buy Dell S3422DWG 34" UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz 2ms VA AMD FreeSync Premium Pro VESA Display HDR 400 1800R Curved Gaming Desktop Monitor at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za

ASUS - VG34VQL3A

Samsung - LC34G55TWWPXEN
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Good overall (I haven't price compared so there might be better options).

You definitely don't need a 1300W PSU though, you could get away with a 750/850W comfortably.

You also don't need a B850 board. B650 will be fine unless there is some specific feature you're looking at.

EDIT: If you went for a B650 Gaming X AX and the 1000W variant of that PSU, you could add in a Seagate Barracuda 4TB 7200RPM HDD so you have somewhere to put your games.

 
Well if he wants PCIE 5 and be up to date with VGA and NVME speeds then you mean B650-E as B650 has no PCIE 5.

Btw do new games even run on HDD's anymore? Serious question. Who spends 50k on a PC to install games on a 20/30 year old tech?

Get a 2nd NVME. And 850w PSU.
 
Rayne said:
Well if he wants PCIE 5 and be up to date with VGA and NVME speeds then you mean B650-E as B650 has no PCIE 5.

Btw do new games even run on HDD's anymore? Serious question. Who spends 50k on a PC to install games on a 20/30 year old tech?

Get a 2nd NVME. And 850w PSU.
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PCI-E 5.0x is completely irrelevant to gamers. There is no benefit to getting PCI-E 5.0x right now. An RTX4090 doesn't even max out PCI-E 4.0 yet, so that's a glorious waste of time and money.
 
Rayne said:
Well if he wants PCIE 5 and be up to date with VGA and NVME speeds then you mean B650-E as B650 has no PCIE 5.

Btw do new games even run on HDD's anymore? Serious question. Who spends 50k on a PC to install games on a 20/30 year old tech?

Get a 2nd NVME. And 850w PSU.
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B650 does support gen 5 nvme, just not officially advertised.

I use to run msi b650 board and nvme ran at gen 5 speeds with 9950x. Benchmark also provided full speed, over 13000Mbs read speeds. Though not sure if like that on each b650
 
UrBaN963 said:
Good overall (I haven't price compared so there might be better options).

You definitely don't need a 1300W PSU though, you could get away with a 750/850W comfortably.

You also don't need a B850 board. B650 will be fine unless there is some specific feature you're looking at.

EDIT: If you went for a B650 Gaming X AX and the 1000W variant of that PSU, you could add in a Seagate Barracuda 4TB 7200RPM HDD so you have somewhere to put your games.

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Why would you put games on spinning disk? That would be slow to load and quite a few games now take advantage of ssd tech
 
eddybsb4u said:
What do you guys think about this build? This will be used for gaming 80% of the time.


I see on Wootware they have some good 34" monitors, which one would you recommend between these ones?

Alienware - AW3425DWM

Dell - S3422DWG

Dell S3422DWG 34" UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz 2ms VA AMD FreeSync Premium Pro VESA Display HDR 400 1800R Curved Gaming Desktop Monitor - Wootware

Buy Dell S3422DWG 34" UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz 2ms VA AMD FreeSync Premium Pro VESA Display HDR 400 1800R Curved Gaming Desktop Monitor at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za

ASUS - VG34VQL3A

Samsung - LC34G55TWWPXEN
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You certainly don't need that 1300w psu, 750w is more than fine, you don't need that cooler this one will do. https://www.wootware.co.za/id-cooli...ck-120mm-dual-tower-black-pwm-cpu-cooler.html
With the drop in psu price and cooler look at
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AMD 100-100001405WOF Ryzen 5 9600X 5.40GHz 6-Core Zen 5 Socket AM5 Desktop CPU - Cooler Not Included

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Instead of the 7600
 
Gtx Gaming said:
B650 does support gen 5 nvme, just not officially advertised.

I use to run msi b650 board and nvme ran at gen 5 speeds with 9950x. Benchmark also provided full speed, over 13000Mbs read speeds. Though not sure if like that on each b650
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Never knew that.
 
UrBaN963 said:
PCI-E 5.0x is completely irrelevant to gamers. There is no benefit to getting PCI-E 5.0x right now. An RTX4090 doesn't even max out PCI-E 4.0 yet, so that's a glorious waste of time and money.
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We build for years to come not years past and yes Nvme run on PCIE 5.
 
eddybsb4u said:
What do you guys think about this build? This will be used for gaming 80% of the time.


I see on Wootware they have some good 34" monitors, which one would you recommend between these ones?

Alienware - AW3425DWM

Dell - S3422DWG

Dell S3422DWG 34" UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz 2ms VA AMD FreeSync Premium Pro VESA Display HDR 400 1800R Curved Gaming Desktop Monitor - Wootware

Buy Dell S3422DWG 34" UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz 2ms VA AMD FreeSync Premium Pro VESA Display HDR 400 1800R Curved Gaming Desktop Monitor at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za

ASUS - VG34VQL3A

Samsung - LC34G55TWWPXEN
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I have been through 3x Asus motherboards.... I have that same Asus TUF (poofta tough) motherboard sitting right next to me in a box, effed... lights come on but no one is home, what a waste. I will never buy another Asus ever again, lasted just over 2 years absolute max. Yet I have an old Intel board from around 15 years ago and it was still going strong, only died last week (capacitor popped) because you guessed it an Asus board would not boot up, nothing...?!

PS I have the exact same case but in white, it's great
 
Lupus said:
Why would you put games on spinning disk? That would be slow to load and quite a few games now take advantage of ssd tech
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Yea it's not necessarily ideal, it was just an idea for additional storage. Could also go for an additional, smaller nvme.
 
Rayne said:
We build for years to come not years past and yes Nvme run on PCIE 5.
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Yes, but we are nowhere near requiring PCI-e 5 for gaming so it's a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Yea it's not necessarily ideal, it was just an idea for additional storage. Could also go for an additional, smaller nvme.
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What I do on my side is I put download and documents on the hdd, so saved games and such are on there. Could use the hdds for things like that.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Yes, but we are nowhere near requiring PCI-e 5 for gaming so it's a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere.
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Like I said earlier its about futureproofing. There is always rumors when generations change.

If you are not going to do that then there is no reason to go AM5 at all. You will notice absolutely no difference running a 5700X3D and staying on AM4 and in addition you will cut down R12-R15k while you're at it.

If you are spending R50k on a brand new PC then futureproof or else you are spending again.
 
Rayne said:
Like I said earlier its about futureproofing. There is always rumors when generations change.

If you are not going to do that then there is no reason to go AM5 at all. You will notice absolutely no difference running a 5700X3D and staying on AM4 and in addition you will cut down R12-R15k while you're at it.

If you are spending R50k on a brand new PC then futureproof or else you are spending again.
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Future-proof, yes. But there are avenues worth pursuing and others, not. If even a 4090 isn't saturating PCI-E 4.0 and PCI-E 5.0 is double the bandwidth, then we are absolutely nowhere near requiring PCI-E 5.0 for gaming. It's not that it's a bit of headroom, it's that it's more than double what is required for gaming scenarios. PCI-E 5.0 NVMEs for data applications, sure. For gaming, you're throwing money away on a feature you will never see the benefits of.

By the time PCI-E 5.0 is required, he will be upgrading the PC again.

I agree with your sentiment, but in this case it's misguided.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Future-proof, yes. But there are avenues worth pursuing and others, not. If even a 4090 isn't saturating PCI-E 4.0 and PCI-E 5.0 is double the bandwidth, then we are absolutely nowhere near requiring PCI-E 5.0 for gaming. It's not that it's a bit of headroom, it's that it's more than double what is required for gaming scenarios. PCI-E 5.0 NVMEs for data applications, sure. For gaming, you're throwing money away on a feature you will never see the benefits of.

By the time PCI-E 5.0 is required, he will be upgrading the PC again.

I agree with your sentiment, but in this case it's misguided.
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Sure, fair enough of course.

Personally I'll always be of the opinion that brand new builds should be futureproof though. If you upgrade you can do whatever matches your pocket as long as you are better off than you were.
 
eddybsb4u said:
What do you guys think about this build? This will be used for gaming 80% of the time.

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Btw you cant use that RAM with that cooler. There's no clearance. The RAM is 46mm and the cooler only clears 43mm.

Get low profile RAM instead. You are never going to see your RAM with this cooler so don't get ARGB's.

 
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