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wizardofid said:
What I find annoying is, everyone else is allowed to sell for whatever price they want, if you dare sell just above market price you get mobbed......

saw an AMD Ryzen 5 3600, system today with 1660super secondhand for 8.5K...WATF.
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Actually at current prices, that's not to bad. I sold a 4650g, with 32gb of ram for R6500, but I need to put another 256gb ssd in it.
 
Lupus said:
Actually at current prices, that's not to bad. I sold a 4650g, with 32gb of ram for R6500, but I need to put another 256gb ssd in it.
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It's bad. A new 3600 sell for 1.4k brand new, system has 1tb mechanical drive, 256gig ssd, 500watt PSU and old ass case and B450 that sold for 1.5k new. 16gig adata ram

New the system is about 10k. 3-4 year old system. Selling for 1.5k+- less than original new price.
 
wizardofid said:
It's bad. A new 3600 sell for 1.4k brand new, system has 1tb mechanical drive, 256gig ssd, 500watt PSU and old ass case and B450 that sold for 1.5k new. 16gig adata ram

New the system is about 10k. 3-4 year old system. Selling for 1.5k+- less than original new price.
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1660ti is R1500 to R2k alone nowadays. Also depends on the mobo
 
Lupus said:
1660ti is R1500 to R2k alone nowadays. Also depends on the mobo
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I checked the mobo sold for 1.5 k for entire lifetime.
At the bottom end it is closer to 6.5K, It is a ryzen 5 3600.

R1.3k more

Everything brand new

with 1.3k left you should be able to pick up a RX 570, will need to add a bit for a RX580

if it weren't for the ram prices you could have gotten a better GPU secondhand and still be under the asking price.. It is not the best system new, but just to give you some idea what the value is new versus secondhand.

Personally when buying secondhand, I also check what price it sold for last and age at 3 - 4 year, 50%- 60% last new price is more than fair.

It is a hard sell for me.
 
/sigh

2026 is being set up to be the saddest tech consumer year in decades. There are some good signs, but many more bad signs.

I guess I am pushing back my own gaming PC build... :crying:
 
Fulcrum29 said:
/sigh

2026 is being set up to be the saddest tech consumer year in decades. There are some good signs, but many more bad signs.

I guess I am pushing back my own gaming PC build... :crying:
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It is going to go well in 2027 maybe start of 2028. New DDR6 platforms form intel and AMD is going to have a high entry ceiling.
Not to be a doom gloom prophet, you can still get ram decently cheap you have to shop around.... You are better off getting a system ASAP. GPU's are next on the chopping block with a 10% increase now and an increase in jan.

Sad thing is people didn't listen and still aren't listen, the dram backorders is getting worse and worse, there is back orders up to 3-4 years. Nand is getting worse as enterprise is snapping up whatever they can because the back orders for mechanical drives is over a year now. Dram is now impacting GPU's and releases are getting major delays.

However bad you think things are now, it is going to get much much much worse, expect GPUs to rise by 50-60% and that would be a conservative estimate.

Additionally shops are severely limited on the amount of stock they can order, you will also have quantity limits soon lots of shops are already limiting to 1 stick of ram per day.

Trust me you going to end up waiting 3-4 years. But good luck with whatever you decide to do. FYI CPU's are next on the chopping block already seen a 10 increase, and another increase expected in jan.
 
wizardofid said:
It is going to go well in 2027 maybe start of 2028. New DDR6 platforms form intel and AMD is going to have a high entry ceiling.
Not to be a doom gloom prophet, you can still get ram decently cheap you have to shop around.... You are better off getting a system ASAP. GPU's are next on the chopping block with a 10% increase now and an increase in jan.

Sad thing is people didn't listen and still aren't listen, the dram backorders is getting worse and worse, there is back orders up to 3-4 years. Nand is getting worse as enterprise is snapping up whatever they can because the back orders for mechanical drives is over a year now. Dram is now impacting GPU's and releases are getting major delays.

However bad you think things are now, it is going to get much much much worse, expect GPUs to rise by 50-60% and that would be a conservative estimate.

Additionally shops are severely limited on the amount of stock they can order, you will also have quantity limits soon lots of shops are already limiting to 1 stick of ram per day.

Trust me you going to end up waiting 3-4 years. But good luck with whatever you decide to do. FYI CPU's are next on the chopping block already seen a 10 increase, and another increase expected in jan.
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I think conditions will calm down in Q2/Q3 2026, more so toward Q4. The problem is, though, say AI pays dividends and expansions are pursued, that the enterprises could put in 12-month contracts to secure their allocations. This could potentially be upped to 18-24 months, but that increases the risk. It is a gamble that enterprisers are taking because it is tough competition, though there is the odd cycle going on.

This all impacts the consumer. The brands we all perceived as being pro-consumer are pivoting. Almost weekly now, there is a development that is showing investments into cloud, data centres, and AI being prioritised. Moves like this could accelerate gaming into the cloud... To be honest, I don't like this. The consumer is being outpriced, and that limits access to goods.

Anyhow, some good news is that consumer product production has been pushed back to a more relaxed window in 2026. Demand will still be addressed, but I won't trust the supply. The premium tag will linger, even with rebates.

Wake me up in mid-2026.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I think conditions will calm down in Q2/Q3 2026, more so toward Q4. The problem is, though, say AI pays dividends and expansions are pursued, that the enterprises could put in 12-month contracts to secure their allocations. This could potentially be upped to 18-24 months, but that increases the risk. It is a gamble that enterprisers are taking because it is tough competition, though there is the odd cycle going on.

This all impacts the consumer. The brands we all perceived as being pro-consumer are pivoting. Almost weekly now, there is a development that is showing investments into cloud, data centres, and AI being prioritised. Moves like this could accelerate gaming into the cloud... To be honest, I don't like this. The consumer is being outpriced, and that limits access to goods.

Anyhow, some good news is that consumer product production has been pushed back to a more relaxed window in 2026. Demand will still be addressed, but I won't trust the supply. The premium tag will linger, even with rebates.

Wake me up in mid-2026.
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It won't, it isn't fear mongering, just cold hard facts., there is nothing to discount because there is nothing left in the supply chain.

Enterprise HDD supply is an absolute trainwreck right now — some SKUs are quoting nearly two-year lead times. CPUs aren’t far behind, with 4–6 month backorders becoming standard. NAND and DRAM are even worse: 2026 fab capacity is basically sold out, and parts of 2027 are already being pre-allocated to hyperscalers. If you’re not an enterprise throwing massive multi-year contracts around, you’re simply not on the priority list.


People keep acting like pricing will magically correct, but that’s not how this works. Even if the entire AI bubble burst tomorrow, it wouldn’t fix anything because there’s no inventory to drive prices down with. The supply chain is completely hollowed out. Whatever stock comes in is already spoken for long before it hits the channel.


And this is exactly why 2026 and well into 2027 aren’t going to improve. Foundry and fab expansions take 24–36 months, and the new capacity everyone keeps hyping won’t be online until late 2026 or 2027 — and even that capacity is already sold forward to enterprise clients. On top of that, manufacturers are shifting more lines to HBM, advanced DRAM, and AI-optimized NAND, which directly cannibalizes consumer-grade output. The AI demand curve isn’t flattening either; hyperscalers are locking in allocation through multi-year contracts, which shoves consumer supply even further down the ladder.


Add the ongoing trade war and tariffs into the mix, plus raw material bottlenecks — wafers, substrates, rare-earths — and you’ve got rising costs before chips even leave the fab. And let’s be blunt: you can’t lower prices without rebuilding inventory first. Right now we’re not low on stock; we’re past zero and deep into negative territory, with backorders exceeding production forecasts.


So no, prices aren’t going to drop. Not in 2026, and realistically not in 2027 either. The pipeline is dry, the future pipeline is oversold, and the manufacturing expansions needed to fix this aren’t coming online fast enough.


Bottom line: there are no discounts coming — there’s barely any product coming.

Ask @Progenix Oj101, he will tell you pretty much the same. Get now, there is no next year, it is almost already too late now
 
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What would you guys do here? From Wootware. Im not a fan of scalping, and dont need the kit anymore, but yeah:

Trust you are well.

I have tested your RAM, and after testing I can confirm that it is not functioning as intended.

Please confirm if you would like a credit or a direct replacement of the RAM.

We suggest you take the replacement as the RAM prices have skyrocketed, so even if you do not want the replacement, you would be able to sell it at a better price than receiving the credit.I hope to hear from you soon.
 
Jer1cho said:
What would you guys do here? From Wootware. Im not a fan of scalping, and dont need the kit anymore, but yeah:

Trust you are well.

I have tested your RAM, and after testing I can confirm that it is not functioning as intended.

Please confirm if you would like a credit or a direct replacement of the RAM.

We suggest you take the replacement as the RAM prices have skyrocketed, so even if you do not want the replacement, you would be able to sell it at a better price than receiving the credit.I hope to hear from you soon.
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Dude, sell it slightly above what you paid, 200 - 300 a stick, get something back for your trouble.

It isn't unreasonable price and still below what it sells for now..... Someone will be more than happy to pay for it at that price. Some times things go up in price such is life, it isn't scalping if you sell it below the asking price.

But if you really want to do good, take the the extra money over and above what is paid and donate it to an animal shelter in need.
 
wizardofid said:
Dude, sell it slightly above what you paid, 200 - 300 a stick, get something back for your trouble.

It isn't unreasonable price and still below what it sells for now..... Someone will be more than happy to pay for it at that price. Some times things go up in price such is life, it isn't scalping if you sell it below the asking price.

But if you really want to do good, take the the extra money over and above what is paid and donate it to an animal shelter in need.
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Good idea. I donate to a Staffy rescue monthly here in JHB. I reckon Im gonna do that. Pay it forward then. Thanks man!
 
Jer1cho said:
Good idea. I donate to a Staffy rescue monthly here in JHB. I reckon Im gonna do that. Pay it forward then. Thanks man!
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Lol seriously don't feel bad, the thing is you are most likely going to end up selling the ram to someone who doesn't need it who will in return resell the ram for profit. Even with the increase you still going to end up with someone buying the ram that will try and sell it for more.

There is always going to be someone trying to make a quick buck at your expense, don't give them a reason, and don't let them bully or guilt you into reducing the price stand your ground, if they keep at it, get someone else that is willing to pay without fuss, the one arguing about price is mostly the people that wants to resell for profit.
 
Nice guys finish last.

Wait until Feb. and then sell it for an even bigger profit.
 
Jer1cho said:
What would you guys do here? From Wootware. Im not a fan of scalping, and dont need the kit anymore, but yeah:

Trust you are well.

I have tested your RAM, and after testing I can confirm that it is not functioning as intended.

Please confirm if you would like a credit or a direct replacement of the RAM.

We suggest you take the replacement as the RAM prices have skyrocketed, so even if you do not want the replacement, you would be able to sell it at a better price than receiving the credit.I hope to hear from you soon.
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Not really scalping. You didn't buy the ram in bulk to resell.
 
Jer1cho said:
Good idea. I donate to a Staffy rescue monthly here in JHB. I reckon Im gonna do that. Pay it forward then. Thanks man!
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In 2020 I managed to sell GPUs for almost double the price I paid for them.
 
The 32GB DDR4-3600 kit I am eyeballing is R4200 on Wootware 😐

Guess I will manage with 16GB for the foreseeable future
 
PhireSide said:
The 32GB DDR4-3600 kit I am eyeballing is R4200 on Wootware 😐

Guess I will manage with 16GB for the foreseeable future
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