Next iOS version could drop support for iPhone SE

[Mystic Twilight]

Custom rom is a skewered answer, technically then apple and android phones have unlimited support as you just need to jailbreak/root the phone and load the appropriate rom, make your own if none is available. On the official side of things, apple definitively has the better long term OS software support, and is more consistent at releasing and making it available as opposed to android which is constrained by the various vendors. That's one advantage of being fully vertically integrated and in control on the product stack.

 

[Kola_CT]

again, a phone can go on forever, only limitation is the software/Hardware on it,
we've all been preconditioned to accept the fact, that the lifespan of a phone is 2 years, no ifs or maybes.

here maybe an analogy that might work
look back in History, at the Phoebus cartel, of a lightbulb being designed to break after X amount of hours.

yes, you can keep your old Iphone as long as you like in a sock drawer,
same too with Android, and you are forced to buy another just to be able to run the latest apps.

my point being, if you want a phone to last, you are forced to root, or find unique phones that dont subscribe to this cartel,
again, if your buy under contract, what do you care? just get another and throw the old one away.

but those they buy cash? you are forced to endure the slowdowns, and the battery limitations and lack of support.
that are all completely artificial, and designed to make you buy another, when its not necessary.

laugh all you like, I know what I want, and thats longevity and monthly updates.
crazy? maybe, but people who questioned the cartel often are.

Please only speak for your own delusional self.

And learn to read, for your own benefit.
OK for ours too.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Read comments made about Apple's 5 year support vs. Android's 2-year support. All phones have either a 1-year or 2-year hardware warranty anyways. At least with Apple you get an additional 3 years of support.
I suspect you need to readdress your bias here a bit and look at the facts.

I'm talking about the software in that case,
and before you bash me for not getting my facts straight,

let me remind you how your beloved Apple treats old devices.

Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

Apple agrees to pay a £21m fine in France for not making it clear that it slowed down old iPhones.

www.bbc.com

completely artificial and unnecessary, all to add to the bottom line, and its deliberate, not necessary in the slightest.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Custom rom is a skewered answer, technically then apple and android phones have unlimited support as you just need to jailbreak/root the phone and load the appropriate rom, make your own if none is available. On the official side of things, apple definitively has the better long term OS software support, and is more consistent at releasing and making it available as opposed to android which is constrained by the various vendors. That's one advantage of being fully vertically integrated and in control on the product stack.

again, we've been conditioned to accept this is how a phone works, deal with it.
otherwise your "weird"

again, look at all this glue used in phones nowadays, why? cant you make it come apart with screws?
no, because its designed that way. its designed to break, IF you try to keep it longer than the 2 years.

same with the software, again, as ive proven, they release updates that break the phone, to FORCE you to upgrade.
again, deliberate, not necessary.

so your Iphone SE wont work, well here's the trashcan, its waiting for it. get another

 

[Crowley]

Apple support is lightyears ahead of Android.

A Samsung from 2014/15 vs an Apple of that same time, you can't compare the two today, the Samsung one will be unusable.

A friend of mine still uses a Galaxy S5. The battery life is crap but the phone still works 100%

 

[genetic]

Samsung committed to 3 years now from the Galaxy S10 onwards... https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-3-years-android-os-updates-galaxy-note-20/ not to mention aftermarket roms. My Galaxy Note N7000 launched with Gingerbread and I installed Pie on it before passing the device on.

Uhmmm... you can jailbreak an iPhone if you really wanted to and do the same.

 

[JohnStarr]

again, we've been conditioned to accept this is how a phone works, deal with it.
otherwise your "weird"

again, look at all this glue used in phones nowadays, why? cant you make it come apart with screws?
no, because its designed that way. its designed to break, IF you try to keep it longer than the 2 years.

same with the software, again, as ive proven, they release updates that break the phone, to FORCE you to upgrade.
again, deliberate, not necessary.

so your Iphone SE wont work, well here's the trashcan, its waiting for it. get another

BS...you can fix an iPhone. I've done it twice. Screws involved!

 

[JohnStarr]

I'm talking about the software in that case,
and before you bash me for not getting my facts straight,

let me remind you how your beloved Apple treats old devices.

Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

Apple agrees to pay a £21m fine in France for not making it clear that it slowed down old iPhones.

www.bbc.com

completely artificial and unnecessary, all to add to the bottom line, and its deliberate, not necessary in the slightest.

Maybe, but it certainly never affected every owner. You're talking cr@p here, clearly don't like an Apple and will throw in whatever nonsense you can find or think of.
Apple paid for their mistake. They got caught out. They're still selling phones.

 

[JohnStarr]

I'm talking about the software in that case,
and before you bash me for not getting my facts straight,

let me remind you how your beloved Apple treats old devices.

Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

Apple agrees to pay a £21m fine in France for not making it clear that it slowed down old iPhones.

www.bbc.com

completely artificial and unnecessary, all to add to the bottom line, and its deliberate, not necessary in the slightest.

I was talking about software too...the OS and security updates after OS support expiration. Which you mentioned in 1 of your other posts.

 

[Unreal]

in case you were thinking of keeping your old Iphone going,
Apple makes sure you cant do that.

“Old” being the operative word

 

[backstreetboy]

Uhmmm... you can jailbreak an iPhone if you really wanted to and do the same.

Lol best you can do without trouble is install a third party app store. You can do that out of the box with Android...

 

[sand_man]

of course not, just wont get updates,
problem is with all the new threats becoming common, a phone without updates is vulnerable.

How many Android phones from 2015 and earlier will get Android 11 do you think?

 

[JohnStarr]

in case you were thinking of keeping your old Iphone going,
Apple makes sure you cant do that.

What farking BS are you talking about? My iPhone 6 is 7 years old and still going. And when I say still, I mean as fast as it was.
My wife's SE is 5 years old. The only reason she's using my SE that replaced my 6 is because mine has 32GB and her original has 16GB.

If you don't have the foggiest clue what you're talking about, rather go sit back in the corner. It's embarrassing!

 

[sand_man]

Genuine question since I do not know, Apple tends to drop support for new OS updates after 5-6 years, how long does the likes of Samsung/Sony etc. keep support by comparison?

Easy to check, head over to GSMArena and check the specs. It usually specifies what OS is supported for a particular model.

Samsung Galaxy S6 - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

Apple iPhone 6s - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

A Galaxy S6, released 6 months before the iPhone 6s, supports up to Android 8. The 6s, iOS 14.2...

 

[JohnStarr]

again, we've been conditioned to accept this is how a phone works, deal with it.
otherwise your "weird"

again, look at all this glue used in phones nowadays, why? cant you make it come apart with screws?
no, because its designed that way. its designed to break, IF you try to keep it longer than the 2 years.

same with the software, again, as ive proven, they release updates that break the phone, to FORCE you to upgrade.
again, deliberate, not necessary.

so your Iphone SE wont work, well here's the trashcan, its waiting for it. get another

Mindless and clueless thoughts there. SE from years ago still works. Apps will still work. And for the most part still be updated for a while. It's just iOS that doesn't get updated. WhatsApp has no power to push anyone to update their phone.

 

[Johnatan56]

Next iOS version could drop support for iPhone SE

The next version of Apple's mobile operating system, iOS 15, will not support older iPhone models - including the original iPhone SE.

This is according to a report by Softpedia News, which said iOS 15 will drop support for every iPhone older than the iPhone 7, meaning that if you have an iPhone 6s or earlier model you will be unable to update to the newest version of the operating system.

It would also mean they drop the iPad 5th gen since also A9:

So highly doubt it, would be one of their shortest support spans for a modern device, would get at least one more iOS version I think and then you could argue they might drop. They will give at least 3 years support after the last A9 devices is discontinued and at Sep 2018, earliest you could be looking at is Sep 2021, so the iOS version in 2022.

Do remember, Apple tries to get you to buy into the ecosystem now, it's not so much as how many phones they sell anymore, and the SE market is definitely one where there would be one of the largest impacts for forcing upgrades. Their reputation is very important to them.

Tables are from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_and_iPadOS_devices

Surely you cannot blame them for dropping support for phones that was launched more than 5 years ago?

Apple support is usually not from release of the device, but rather the SoC's last used date in a product, so usually 3 years after the last device is no longer produced.

 

[Johnatan56]

Apple support is lightyears ahead of Android.

A Samsung from 2014/15 vs an Apple of that same time, you can't compare the two today, the Samsung one will be unusable.

My S6 and Note 4 are unusable, slow beyond measure. Loaded custom from on note 4, still k@k

Friend's iphone 6 still works like a charm

Well no longer supported.
S6 did get security patches in Jan as well.

Friend's S6 generally still works as well though.

 

[thehuman]

There also many apps on apple store That need newer version of ios.

 

[3WA]

When the new iPhone price gets announced:

"No thanks, for that cost I'd rather buy a new R8k Android phone every year"

When an old iPhone model loses support:

"I've been running my 2011 Android with custom ROMs and it still works fine"

Why the fsck are you people buying new budget phones every year and still keeping your crappy old phones running on custom ROMs? Damn hoarders.

 

[Murmaider]

again, a phone can go on forever, only limitation is the software/Hardware on it,
we've all been preconditioned to accept the fact, that the lifespan of a phone is 2 years, no ifs or maybes.

I'm not understanding the questions? Personally, I'm rather happy with a new phone every 2 years.
I even like the fact that I can take my 2 year old iphone to the istore and get a pretty decent discount on my new iphone.

I couldn't possibly care any less about "rooting" an old phone or using custom roms.
My phone must just work and I don't want to have to think about it.