Dave
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The photo is that bad, if you can't see all it's faults it's probably worth discounting your opinion...
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Nikon vs Canon: Which do you prefer?
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The photo is that bad, if you can't see all it's faults it's probably worth discounting your opinion...
prod
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:crylaugh:
Faults according to who?
Also quite rich to talk about discounting opinions when your own is laughable at the very least.
Dom1n8tr1x
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Two years down the line and I'm still very happy with my NX1, but if I had to choose between Canon and Nikon I would probably get a Nikon.
Foxhound5366
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"Aah yes, Dave is a fine upstanding man, with respect for others' opinions and an appreciation that personal tastes differ. He is a role model to us all, stating his opinion with tact and defending others' even when they differ with this own..."
... said nobody, ever.
Dave
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Show the photo to anyone with even a modicum of ability in using a camera...
It's basically one of those photos you see in photography magazines for what not to do.
Luckily I don't go through life trying to get approval from everyone...
But have you considered enrolling in a basic photography course?
Dave
Honorary Master
Oh, and by the way, I'm hardly alone in thinking it's a poor picture.
It's flaring, plane and simple - and I'm not just talking about the 6 spot flares. Nothing specific to Nikon there I'm afraid. Good news is a couple quick adjustments in PS will [mostly] fix it right up.
prod
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Ah yes, the same magazines that tell you to only shoot rule of thirds, golden ration and not directly into the sun. Definitely the go-to for the professionals.
This is not a photo critique thread though and not why OP posted the picture (afaik) but why don't you start one? Lets all see how great your photos are.
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Foxhound5366
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Oh Dave, go on, hurt me. Bravo, well done.
Dave
Honorary Master
Foxhound5366
Honorary Master
I put myself on the line, Dave, which is more than you've done here. I didn't ask you to critique the photo, I asked Canon shooters if they felt that the photo I'd presented wasn't specific to Nikon, and that that same look could be duplicated by Canons (something nobody has yet taken a photograph to prove). I explained that I'd observed that Nikons tend to have warmer, softer colours straight off the camera, whereas Canons tend to have starker, colder colours. You don't seem to have responded to any of that, just attacking me.
prod
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Seems you prefer magazines with pictures in them since you can't read well...
I agree. My comments however have been based on the assertion that there was something unique to Nikon about that overall "look" when there isn't.
Foxhound5366
Honorary Master
Ok then, so for you, there is no difference between the way that Nikon and Canon handle photograph colour palettes directly off the sensor (and saved as jpg -> not RAW)?
prod
Executive Member
I agree bwana.
You're the only one who actually gave an answer, not bash OP for his posted photo.
Foxhound5366
Honorary Master
Says the man who just said "lol"? If you've got a real answer, do let us know. So far just more ad hominems.
I didn't say that, what I did say is that there's nothing Nikonesque about the photo you posted because all it demonstrated is flaring and that you can get from canon glass just as easily.
Canon has a whole slew of colour setting that many people just don't really delve into. I'm sure I mentioned before that you can take any raw file, fiddle with the sharpness, contrast, saturation, tone, etc in their Picture Style Editor app on you computer and save it as a custom picture style profile on your camera to use for jpgs. Canon and Nikon might ship their cameras with different style profiles built in but that's why you have the ability to create custom ones.
Foxhound5366
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Is that really all you can see in that photo? All you see is everyday flaring, you can't see anything there that you think is different to Canon photographs in similar situations?
Nope. I'm not just talking about the ghosting flare [spots] but the veiling flare that covers the entire image. If you have an image without that flaring that you want to put forward as being demonstrative of the nikon look then by all means.
Foxhound5366
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But it IS the veiling flare that's the difference, for me. Canons would never output that specific shade of yellow. I say this having taken countless thousands of photos on Canon DSLRs under all lighting conditions.
And sure, I'll be more than happy to continue posting photos I think are representative of the "Nikon look" as I continue exploring the camera. In fact, I'd like to get my hands on a Canon DSLR and do some side-by-sides (there are actually side-by-side photos in that video I shared in my very first post on this thread -> very convincing differences there too). Of course, Dave, Randhir et al do kinda take the joy out of it, but hey ... whatever keeps them warm at night.
PS: For the record the yellow looks a lot nicer on my Dell Ultrasharp monitor at home than my crappy regular LG LCD at work, so maybe that's part of what's sticking for some people?
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