Official Afrihost Q&A Thread

gregmcc said:
Just imagine all the if...then...else statements they have just to determine what throttling package you are on! :eek:



They should change this to 3/7 as downloading for 3 hours a day for a week will take you into the throttling bracket.
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Lol :D
Their programmers must be editing the throttling program every day. I bet since Gian is quiet, he is taking notes so that he sends his programmers an email regarding "change of plans to the throttling" application. LOL :D
 
Lostee said:
Lol :D
Their programmers must be editing the throttling program every day. I bet since Gian is quiet, he is taking notes so that he sends his programmers an email regarding "change of plans to the throttling" application. LOL :D
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Well he is showing online but not commenting on anything
 
Gatecrasher said:
Gian,

Not that I support throttling, but if you are going to introduce it, you should have put more thought into it. Rather have a rolling daily or weekly threshold. As things stand April on Afrihost Uncapped is going to look like this:

In Week 1, Light and regular users will suffer because heavy downloaders will not be throttled and the pipe will heavily congested.
In Week 2, Light and regular users will be suffering less. Heavy users will be getting throttled. The pipe will moderately congested.
In Week 3, Light users will be fine. Regular users will be getting throttled. Heavy users will be heavily throttled. The pipe will be underutilized.
In Week 4, Light users will be fine. Regular users will be heavily throttled. Heavy users will strangled. The pipe will be hugely underutilized.

Does this make sense to you? To me it seems like a formula for ticking off the maximum number of users for the maximum amount of time. And not very bright at all.
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The man talks sense. Too bad I'm still moving to mweb even if this is sorted.
 
warchylde said:
Well you can squeeze a lot of space into a vmdk if you set it to expand. When you import it into ESXi you make it flat at import. So it's base operating system with configuration. Configured with the disk sizes you need set to expand, so only the space you actually use is added to them for now. Then when you tar.gz the files you can get some of those OS's down to between 2 and 4GB. Works nice but it KILLS your cap. That's why I went for the uncapped option. Simplifies my life and I don't place any currently running systems at risk.

radio?
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thanks for info , ratio i meant if your vm is 4 gb and u compress to 2 gb its 50% less, ok, my wording was bad. Anyhow not to derail the tread, but yes some of us really need more BW for work purposes, not necessary running a business
 
VertigoZA said:
Yes okay? I'm not sure what you're getting at?
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Everyone keeps going on about people and 100's of GB's going up to 1TB..... There hasn't been usage like that that ANYONE has mentioned in any forums that I read. Except for idiots like frag that say it's for pr0n and some others saying illegal content. People have been throttled for less than 30GB...........
 
If this new AUP does not change for the worse then I'm very happy. It will suite my needs well. I'll probably move around 90Gb of data once I settle in, and even then the account is throttled to an acceptable speed. Nice one on coming clean Gian.
 
Dan C said:
thanks for info , ratio i meant if your vm is 4 gb and u compress to 2 gb its 50% less, ok, my wording was bad. Anyhow not to derail the tread, but yes some of us really need more BW for work purposes, not necessary running a business
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that last VM uncompressed 4.5GB - compressed 450MB (first tar.gz then rar with best compression solid archive.....
 
warchylde said:
Are you slow or just deliberately trying to flame people?
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Well I'm definitely flaming some crybabies...

Look at it this way:

Afrihost has been the trend-setter over the past couple of months. - I dare you to contradict me?
Axxess=s Express accounts were also ground-breaking to a certain extent - for the super-high-end user...

Now:

1 - Either MWEB has been able to buy a part of Seacom/whatever for an amount cheaper than Afrihost (IS) can. OR
2 - MWEB is more efficient than Afrihost (meaning a smaller amount of staff per customer, better admin-skills etc etc) OR
3 - Afrihost wants to make abnormal profit, more than MWEB is making. (The R29/GB deal contradicts that IMO)
4 - Afrihost has a more demanding user-base than the current MWEB base, thus deeming them to throttle accounts earlier than MWEB has to.
5 - MWEB is really awesome, more efficient, and can under-cut all other ISP's in SA, and they are simply the foshizzle... (The past 10 years suggest the opposite. taking nothing away from their awesome offerings of last week...)

If it's #5, I'll eat my words and apologize to the moaners.

BUT: I think it's #4, and the hibernating "normal" users are yet to awaken... Once they do, MWEB will HAVE to instill limits like Afrihost... So the hogs should capitalize as long as they can.

I see Afrihost and to a certain extent WA's viewpoint of the SA situation, and think that while the current move is definitely ground-breaking in SA,it will need to be phased in gradually, and solutions should be developed for the super-high-end users...

For 95% of ADSL users in SA, 30GB is theoretically uncapped... And the current step forward is for them, not (and I flame again), the either- addicted pr0n-aholics or -downloaders of illegal content... (You can only download so much Linux-distro's...)

I rest my case, plz cry further, as a lot of us are rather liking the comic relief...
 
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People, you're all missing the point here. None of us are average users... this account is designed for average users. Your average household in South Africa would seldom hit 10GB in a month.. this offer from Afrihost allows these house holds not to have to worry about things like "caps" anymore. They can Skype their aunty in the US and Youtube till their hearts content. For them, this is an uncapped account. 95% of ADSL users would be more than happy with this account... 95% of ADSL users don't understand what shaped or unshaped accounts are.. or throttling, or torrents. My parents, for example, are thrilled with this offer. However, I'm not using it in my home. I read the terms.. I heard what Gian had to say.. and I realised it is not suited to my needs.

You should've done the same.
 
cancel your
account now and make sure you are refunded the pro-rata
amount that you paid for March regardless of how many
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omg, I do not think anyone expects you to do that? I am happy for my account to just be canceled so that I do not pay for something I will not use during April, but please keep the pro-rata amount.
So we don't have to PM you about this and just do the cancelation through the client zone on the 1st?
 
VertigoZA said:
People, you're all missing the point here. None of us are average users... this account is designed for average users. Your average household in South Africa would seldom hit 10GB in a month.. this offer from Afrihost allows these house holds not to have to worry about things like "caps" anymore. They can Skype their aunty in the US and Youtube till their hearts content. For them, this is an uncapped account. 95% of ADSL users would be more than happy with this account... 95% of ADSL users don't understand what shaped or unshaped accounts are.. or throttling, or torrents. My parents, for example, are thrilled with this offer. However, I'm not using it in my home. I read the terms.. I heard what Gian had to say.. and I realised it is not suited to my needs.

You should've done the same.
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Talking so much sense there. :D
 
Frag said:
Well I'm definitely flaming some crybabies...

Look at it this way:

Afrihost has been the trend-setter over the past couple of months. - I dare you to contradict me?
Axxess=s Express accounts were also ground-breaking to a certain extent - for the super-high-end user...

Now:

1 - Either MWEB has been able to buy a part of Seacom/whatever for an amount cheaper than Afrihost (IS) can. OR
2 - MWEB is more efficient than Afrihost (meaning a smaller amount of staff per customer, better admin-skills etc etc) OR
3 - Afrihost wants to make abnormal profit, more than MWEB is making. (The R29/GB deal contradicts that IMO)
4 - Afrihost has a more demanding user-base than the current MWEB base, thus deeming them to throttle accounts earlier than MWEB has to.
5 - MWEB is really awesome, more efficient, and can under-cut all other ISP's in SA, and they are simply the foshizzle... (The past 10 years suggest the opposite. taking nothing away from their awesome offerings of last week...)

If it's #5, I'll eat my words and apologize to the moaners.

BUT: I think it's #4, and the hibernating "normal" users are yet to awaken... Once they do, MWEB will HAVE to instill limits like Afrihost... So the hogs should capitalize as long as they can.

I see Afrihost and to a certain extent WA's viewpoint of the SA situation, and think that while the current move is definitely ground-breaking in SA,it will need to be phased in gradually, and solutions should be developed for the super-high-end users...

For 95% of ADSL users in SA, 30GB is theoretically uncapped... And the current step forward is for them, not (and I flame again), the either- addicted pr0n-aholics or -downloaders of illegal content... (You can only download so much Linux-distro's...)

I rest my case, plz cry further, as a lot of us are rather liking the comic relief...
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Your ignorance is staggering - this will be my last response to you as you have clearly decided to completely ignore everything that has been said before this in the forum. Good luck with that mindset in the workplace.

Simple lesson i have learnt by dealing with people like you. Never argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
 
Gatecrasher said:
Gian,

Not that I support throttling, but if you are going to introduce it, you should have put more thought into it. Rather have a rolling daily or weekly threshold. As things stand April on Afrihost Uncapped is going to look like this:

In Week 1, Light and regular users will suffer because heavy downloaders will not be throttled and the pipe will be heavily congested.
In Week 2, Light and regular users will be suffering less. Heavy users will be getting throttled. The pipe will be moderately congested.
In Week 3, Light users will be fine. Regular users will be getting throttled. Heavy users will be heavily throttled. The pipe will be underutilized.
In Week 4, Light users will be fine. Regular users will be heavily throttled. Heavy users will strangled. The pipe will be hugely underutilized.

Does this make sense to you? To me it seems like a formula for ticking off the maximum number of users for the maximum amount of time. And not very bright at all.
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+1 This does not make sense. I agree with daily/weekly thresholds.
 
ToxicBunny said:
That is what ultimately will happen.. it will just take a few months to get to that level...

I unfortunately can use more than 60GB in a month without even touching torrents or newsgroups... Doing SQL reporting and testing and stuff chews through bandwidth... and having a vaguely smart house also doesn't help the bandwidth usage.
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me wanna have a chat with Toxic's house about its abuse of the interwebz :P

I also switched back to my capped account this morning after realising that the ucnapped was not what I singed up for and will not switch it on to rape it tonight or morrow while its not being shaped or whatever its called.
 
VertigoZA said:
People, you're all missing the point here. None of us are average users... this account is designed for average users. Your average household in South Africa would seldom hit 10GB in a month.. this offer from Afrihost allows these house holds not to have to worry about things like "caps" anymore. They can Skype their aunty in the US and Youtube till their hearts content. For them, this is an uncapped account. 95% of ADSL users would be more than happy with this account... 95% of ADSL users don't understand what shaped or unshaped accounts are.. or throttling, or torrents. My parents, for example, are thrilled with this offer. However, I'm not using it in my home. I read the terms.. I heard what Gian had to say.. and I realised it is not suited to my needs.

You should've done the same.
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Afrihost = fail

They know all their users are power users...they just wasted my time with this mom and pop bs offering. Mweb all the way baby (it still makes me a little sick saying that as I used to love afrihost)
 
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