Ongoing Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

[lived666]

24/11
Initial report: Three injured in suspected ramming attack at Tapuach Junction in West Bank
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...ttack-at-Tapuach-Junction-in-West-Bank-435154

Three people were lightly injured in a suspected ramming attack near Tzomet Tapuach in the West Bank on Tuesday morning according to reports by Magen David Adom.

Security forces and paramedics were at the scene.

The suspected terrorist was subdued.

 

[3Gee]

Ongoing daily Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

The Arabs want everything and are prepared to give nothing.
There are no negotiations with them.
That's the problem. Even abbas admitted he rejected peace
But hey the usual crowd here can keep speaking crap and spreading lies I mean who cares about facts and truths

Stop preaching nonesense
A few years back Abbas offered Israel more land than what they were asking for.
Israel rejected the deal.
Ask Tzipi Livni

Peace negotiations offered by Israel is nothing but a stalling tactic to steal more land.

 

[3Gee]

Stop preaching nonesense
A few years back Abbas offered Israel more land what they were asking for.
Israel rejected the deal.
Ask Tzipi Livni

Peace negotiations offered by Israel is nothing but a stalling tactic to steal more land.

 

[lived666]

Peace negotiations offered by Israel is nothing but a stalling tactic to steal more land.

You mean the land they won in the 6 day war? The land the Arabs lost when trying to destroy Israel - shame huh, that plan back fired a few times.
Most of the land Israel won in 1967 has been returned, as in the Sinai to Egypt. One day when the palestinians decide it just not worth their effort in killing Jews, then maybe then we can talk about a second palestinian state next to Jordan.

 

[Cray]

You mean the land they won in the 6 day war? The land the Arabs lost when trying to destroy Israel - shame huh, that plan back fired a few times.
Most of the land Israel won in 1967 has been returned. One day when the palestinians decide it just not worth their effort in killing Jews, then maybe then we can talk about a second palestinian state next to Jordan.

Punishing the Palestinians for the actions of other Arab states, yeah that sounds fair... :erm: But of course some people in this thread love to lump all Arabs together makes it easier to justify the oppression of Palestinians when you group them with all other Arabs in the region.

 

[3Gee]

Ongoing daily Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

You mean the land they won in the 6 day war? The land the Arabs lost when trying to destroy Israel - shame huh, that plan back fired a few times.
Most of the land Israel won in 1967 has been returned, as in the Sinai to Egypt. One day when the palestinians decide it just not worth their effort in killing Jews, then maybe then we can talk about a second palestinian state next to Jordan.

Stop distorting the facts. Bottom line, negotiations about negotiations about negotiations x 1000000 is nothing but a stalling tactic, Nutenyahu has made it loud and clear on a number of occasions,

THERE WILL BE NO 2 STATE SOLUTION.

PERIOD

 

[crysis]

Punishing the Palestinians for the actions of other Arab states

Actually it was the Palestinians who did the fighting as well. Dont forget that.

 

[lived666]

Punishing the Palestinians for the actions of other Arab states, yeah that sounds fair... :erm: But of course some people in this thread love to lump all Arabs together makes it easier to justify the oppression of Palestinians when you group them with all other Arabs in the region.

The palestinians were attacking Israel before 1967 and the PLO was established by the Arab summit in 1964 with the sole aim of destroying Israel and the mandate specifically mentioned that they were to not to operate within the Jordanian held west bank.

 

[Cray]

The palestinians were attacking Israel before 1967 and the PLO was established by the Arab summit in 1964 with the sole aim of destroying Israel and the mandate specifically mentioned that they were to not to operate within the Jordanian held west bank.

Ever thought that the reason that the Palestinians where attacking Israel is that they fled or where expelled from their homes and then weren't allowed to return?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

The 1948 Palestinian exodus, also known as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة‎, "al-Nakbah", literally "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"),[1] occurred when more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1948 Palestine war.[2] The term "nakba" also refers to the period of war itself and events affecting Palestinians from December 1947 to January 1949.

The precise number of refugees is a matter of dispute[3] but around 80 percent of the Arab inhabitants of what became Israel (50 percent of the Arab total of Mandatory Palestine) left or were expelled from their homes.[4][5]The causes are also a subject of fundamental disagreement between Arabs and Israelis. Factors involved in the exodus include Jewish military advances, attacks against Arab villages and fears of another massacre by Zionist militias after the Deir Yassin massacre,[6]:239–240 which caused many to leave out of panic; Arab evacuation orders; expulsion orders by Israeli authorities; the voluntary self-removal of the wealthier classes,[7] the collapse in Palestinian leadership,[8] and an unwillingness to live under Jewish control

That's one way to get a majority Jewish state....

 

[AdrianH]

Peace negotiations offered by Israel is nothing but a stalling tactic to steal more land.

They didn't steal land, they first captured the land during the 6 Day war in 1967. All of the land issues are caused by the neighboring countries declaring war on Israel and then getting their asses handed to them by Israel and now they cry like babies that they want their land back. Boohoo for them.

 

[Spizz]

Stop distorting the facts. Bottom line, negotiations about negotiations about negotiations x 1000000 is nothing but a stalling tactic, Nutenyahu has made it loud and clear on a number of occasions,

THERE WILL BE NO 2 STATE SOLUTION.

PERIOD

That's it, get it all out. You are after all only advocating the only solution you believe in. i.e., the destruction of Israel and the death of millions. Not so?

So we know why the Palestinians act like they do. They want to destroy Israel.

Now, why do you think the Israeli's are acting like they do when the intentions are so clear? WTF do you expect Einstein?

 

[Stochos]

That's it, get it all out. You are after all only advocating the only solution you believe in. i.e., the destruction of Israel and the death of millions. Not so?

So we know why the Palestinians act like they do. They want to destroy Israel.

Now, why do you think the Israeli's are acting like they do when the intentions are so clear? WTF do you expect Einstein?

Islam is the new Nazism.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

That's it, get it all out. You are after all only advocating the only solution you believe in. i.e., the destruction of Israel and the death of millions. Not so?

So we know why the Palestinians act like they do. They want to destroy Israel.

Now, why do you think the Israeli's are acting like they do when the intentions are so clear? WTF do you expect Einstein?

Where has he advocated that? And you're being disingenuous or dishonest again. Claiming all Palestinians want to "destroy" Israel and all...

 

[crysis]

Where has he advocated that? And you're being disingenuous or dishonest again. Claiming all Palestinians want to "destroy" Israel and all...

Its pretty obvious. Unless of course you are doing this: http://recruitingdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/09/ostrich-in-sand.jpg

 

[Cray]

Its pretty obvious. Unless of course you are doing this: http://recruitingdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/09/ostrich-in-sand.jpg

Citation please? If you are going to demonise an entire population group then you must have some pretty solid evidence to back it up...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Its pretty obvious. Unless of course you are doing this: http://recruitingdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/09/ostrich-in-sand.jpg

It actually isn't.

Would you also say it's 'obvious' that Israel is deliberately blocking the peace process, too?

 

[Spizz]

Where has he advocated that? And you're being disingenuous or dishonest again. Claiming all Palestinians want to "destroy" Israel and all...

Again?

And all Palestinians? Maybe I should have said 'these' instead of 'the'. Really though, the incitement from within and the actions of Israel combined, I'd imagine it applies to the majority.

Anyway. Could you perhaps explain what else 'no two state solution' actually means in real terms?Coupled with the stated aims of Hamas and the support for them from certain members of the forum. I'd have said it was pretty clear. Especially since Israel are in a constant state of readiness for war. Maybe you have another explanation?

I may be pessimistic and judgemental on certain members, but I remain open to any other solution 3gee can give where there is no two state solution.

 

[TheJman]

The incitement needs to stop

Palestinian authority names Ramalla street after Arab terrorist who murdered 2 Israelis last month in Jerusalem.

Hundreds of Arabs celebrating and praising todays fatal stabbing attack near home of the terrorist.

a speaker call for the extermination of Jews at a #Palestinian funeral broadcast on PA TV

https://twitter.com/UKMediaWatch/status/668963786498379776

Information is circulated among Palestinians on how to kill a Jew

 

[Cray]

The incitement needs to stop

And so do the illegal settlements...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Again?

And all Palestinians? Maybe I should have said 'these' instead of 'the'. Really though, the incitement from within and the actions of Israel combined, I'd imagine it applies to the majority.

Anyway. Could you perhaps explain what else 'no two state solution' actually means in real terms?Coupled with the stated aims of Hamas and the support for them from certain members of the forum. I'd have said it was pretty clear. Especially since Israel are in a constant state of readiness for war. Maybe you have another explanation?

I may be pessimistic and judgemental on certain members, but I remain open to any other solution 3gee can give where there is no two state solution.

It went this time last way we discussed it, too. Only this vague admission that Israel perhaps also have't been helpful, but then going back to blaming the Palestinians not only for their own actions, but for the actions of Israel, as well.

Reality is quite a bit more nuanced than you're portraying it, I think. On both sides. They support Hamas (those who do, many don't) because they're one of the only groups offering resistance to Israel's occupation. This doesn't mean they support everything they do or the way they do it. And Hamas has actually previously supported a two-state solution, too.

There's also a very real perception among many Palestinians that Israel will just keep extending its settlements and eventually expel them. Can't say I blame them since Israel hasn't stopped expanding their settlements in the West Bank, and refuse to.

This erodes any confidence that Palestinians have about whether a two-state solution can even happen. Israel won't likely give up the settlements, which takes away land that should actually be part of the Palestinian state.

The other proposed solution is a one-state solution. One country for everyone in the region. Naturally neither side is particularly confident that this will work, especially given the last half a century's events.