Ongoing Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

marine1 said:
Conquering power?
No they are not conquerors, try keep up.
You lot clearly are in desperate need of 1. Reality check 2. lesson on history
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marine1 said:
Israel got attacked, she repelled the terrorists and took the land, thats called war.
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con·quer - verb: overcome and take control of (a place or people) by use of military force
 
Pitbull said:
O wow, Israel already occupies all of the west bank and Palestinian territories?

Damn, someone should get wiki to be updated then...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank
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Perhaps you should read your own source...

The International Court of Justice ruling of 9 July 2004 however found that the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is territory held by Israel under military occupation, regardless of its status prior to it coming under Israeli occupation and the Fourth Geneva convention applies de jure.[32] The international community regards the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) as territories occupied by Israel

International law (Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention) prohibits "transfers of the population of an occupying power to occupied territories", incurring a responsibility on the part of Israel's government to not settle Israeli citizens in the West Bank
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Cray said:
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con·quer - verb: overcome and take control of (a place or people) by use of military force
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Israel were the victors in a war that was started by her neighbours, unprovoked.
Conquerors isnt the right wording and gives an impression they attacked the Arabs and conquered them which is not what happened.
They Arab scumbag terrorists tried to wipe out Israel and failed, Israel then annexed the land - spoils of war stop crying about it
 
marine1 said:
Israel were the victors in a war that was started by her neighbours, unprovoked.
Conquerors isnt the right wording and gives an impression they attacked the Arabs and conquered them which is not what happened.
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Sorry, you can't just decide on your own what words mean, conquering is and remains valid.

marine1 said:
They Arab scumbag terrorists tried to wipe out Israel and failed, Israel then annexed the land - spoils of war stop crying about it
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They haven't annexed the West Bank or Gaza, they are an occupying Military power ...
 
LazyLion said:
Um, you would think that they would quickly realise that this "stabbing" tactic is not working out too well for them. :wtf:
You try to stab someone and you get shot with a bullet. Then you dead, and when you are dead you can't do stuff any more, at all.
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I don't think they care anymore. Sometimes death is better than giving up.

LazyLion said:
Not that simple at all. Stop being disingenuous. You and I both know that even if the Israelis right now gave all of that territory back to the Palestinians today, that they would just carry on with the attacks on Israel tomorrow.
It's not about getting their land back, they have stated that they want to destroy Israel, and they won't stop for any other reason.
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You're the one being ingenuous. Some politlical groups might still want to attack Israel, but if the Palestinian people, most of whom are too young to even remember the 1967 war get their right to self-determination like they and every other human being deserves, the people would have no cause to support those political groups.

Let's be very clear here, just like Apartheid South Africa was an immoral entity and did not ever deserve to exist, so the state of Israel as it stands today does not deserve to exist. (And that can also be said for several other middle eastern countries).

The Palestinians alive in the West Bank and Gaza today have every right to want to see the death of the state of Israel. If I was in their shoes I have no doubt I would feel exactly as they do. And I believe that to be true of every other participant in the thread, despite their unconcious hypocrisy.
 
lived666 said:
They already offered, twice, in 2000 and 2006.
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Niether offer was in any way remotely viable. Israel made sure that no reasonable person could accept their agreements.
 
Pitbull said:
Yes and they can build there if they want. They already claimed the land. Why not build there? Palestine lost the land due to the attacks on Israel. If you don't do your home work your play station is taken away. Same thing. Only difference is, my kids listen and that will only happen once. They won't keep on pushing me in the hope that I'll give in. They know I won't so they learn from their mistakes. Palestinians should do the same and they won't lose more land.
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Only difference is, the Israelis are not the Palestinian's parents, and have no right to confiscate their playstation as that is theft. It is a simple violation of human rights. Any human being would be outraged if it happened to them, and the typical response if discussions don't resolve the problem is to resort to violence.

So to turn your argument on its head, for every outbreak of Palestinian violence, there will have been a preceding incident comitted by the Israelis and IDF to provoke it.
 
daveza said:
We all know it's more than one.

Is it even close to the majority who prefer war to peace ?
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Looks like it's time to find images of racist Israelis on their anti-arab marches...

The pictures of 4 year olds writing messages on bombs meant for the Gazans should be a good start...
 
Xarog said:
Only difference is, the Israelis are not the Palestinian's parents, and have no right to confiscate their playstation as that is theft. It is a simple violation of human rights. Any human being would be outraged if it happened to them, and the typical response if discussions don't resolve the problem is to resort to violence.

So to turn your argument on its head, for every outbreak of Palestinian violence, there will have been a preceding incident comitted by the Israelis and IDF to provoke it.
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And by all means that could be true.

They should just go full retard on each other and the victor takes all. Should solve all the issues...
 
Pitbull said:
You doing exactly what Imran is doing... Linking me to articles regarding construction in ALREADY claimed territories. I'm not saying Israel doesn't have a long term plan and an agenda with wanting to put a billion Jews in the west bank or whatever. I'm sure we all know their end game. They are however claiming the land bit by bit as retaliation. Thus the reason the world has said nothing on the issue.

They have a reason justifiable or not for claiming land and each and every time the Palestinians give them that reason, time and time and time again. In essence, as ironic as it might seem. The Palestinians are losing more and more land due to their fight for lost land.
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By these standards, the last land grab happened in 1967.
 
Pitbull said:
And by all means that could be true.

They should just go full retard on each other and the victor takes all. Should solve all the issues...
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Or maybe we should just start by killing all the idiots who think their brand of culture makes them more entitled to things than people who don't share the culture.

I mean if we're going to be killing people, I'd much rather the effects result in a lasting benefit to those that survive.
 
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/

Netanyahu made it explicitly clear that he could never, ever, countenance a fully sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank.
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan.”
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So contrary to the suggestion that if the Palestinians want peace all will be good, they could become pillars of society and still look forward to a life under the control of Israel.
 
daveza said:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/



So contrary to the suggestion that if the Palestinians want peace all will be good, they could become pillars of society and still look forward to a life under the control of Israel.
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The status quo...its not working, the evidence is in plain sight.

More than likely Netanyahu will fade away as another leader that achieved very little if nothing.
I don't think he has the cohones to make decisions, either way
 
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