Paying so much for games

Mike Hoxbig said:
No no, buying second hand games is wrong. But bypassing region restrictions is ok!
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You can greatly simplify the discussion by looking at where your money goes.

Piracy - no money to content owner/creator
Secondhand purchase - no money to content owner/creator
Netflix over UnoTelly - money goes straight to Netflix and on to content owners/creators

Ethics and legality have never been bound together. Something can be ethical and illegal just as easily as something else can be legal but unethical.
 
Bryn said:
Netflix over UnoTelly - money goes straight to Netflix and on to content owners/creators
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The only issue would be that the content providers in your own country gets shafted. They (Multichoice or whoever) paid for the rights to air those shows in your country, but you go right on ahead and bypass them, which means less subscriptions for them and less eyes to witness their advertising. So you see, you are directly putting people out of work in your own country :D

Seylan said:
From the original post to this discussion....
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I tried to bring it back on track, failed miserably...
 
Bryn said:
You can greatly simplify the discussion by looking at where your money goes.

Piracy - no money to content owner/creator
Secondhand purchase - no money to content owner/creator
Netflix over UnoTelly - money goes straight to Netflix and on to content owners/creators

Ethics and legality have never been bound together. Something can be ethical and illegal just as easily as something else can be legal but unethical.
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Using Netflix is like using Steam, you can't really do 2nd hand purchases.
 
DA-LION-619 said:
Using Netflix is like using Steam, you can't really do 2nd hand purchases.
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But if you invite a girl over for "Netflix & chill" , she is watching for free instead of getting her own subscription.

In short: SCUM.
 
Bryn said:
You can preorder Blops 3 on G2A for R550. Slightly better price. CoD games generally have rubbish prices though until sometime after launch.
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Found it on greenmangaming for about $40 (which I trust more than G2A), and yeah COD generally is never on special during a steam sale, The only two I can recall was COD MW and MW2
 
Nothing wrong with buying second-hand games at all.

If someone is desperate enough to buy a second-hand game at a well-reduced price, they probably can't afford the original to begin with, so the developers aren't losing any money anyway.

Or if people can afford it but don't buy it new immediately, they obviously think that the game isn't worth the price. The better a game is, the bigger the chance of it being bought brand new. In 2015, people use the internet for user reviews, we're not limited to Gamespot's dev-subbed dicksucking reviews any more.
 
Bryn said:
I would even go as far as to say that secondhand buyers are worse than pirates. They're scum, but pirates have a low propensity to buy new games - a significant margin aren't potential customers for publishers and would sooner go without the product were it unavailable illegally. But a secondhand buyer could have been a new sale if they gave enough of a damn to just buy new instead, as all games are discounted sooner or later to a price point that matches the utility received by owning it.

How on Earth does two sales constitute being paid twice for the same item? If I sold beautiful hand-made tools and you bought one set and shared them with a friend who wanted them just as much as you, you'd be screwing me over. Not preventing me from being paid twice for the same product.
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whoa wtf are you smoking ???

buying second hand games is nothing new, its been around for ages since the beginning of gaming , there are even shops that sell second hand games as it is a big market.

shops include zaps, btgames, game exchange etc are you telling me those shops are all scum ???
 
and another thing its not just about affordability - most gamers that buy second hand can infact afford to buy new but they smart they wait a week or 2 and get the same game at a whole lot cheaper - there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 
ryu said:
whoa wtf are you smoking ???

buying second hand games is nothing new, its been around for ages since the beginning of gaming , there are even shops that sell second hand games as it is a big market.

shops include zaps, btgames, game exchange etc are you telling me those shops are all scum ???
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I meant "Pirates are scum, but they...". I see I need to edit the post.

But yeah, I think the used games industry is unethical. Cutting out the creators of the games is ridiculous.
 
Bryn said:
But yeah, I think the used games industry is unethical. Cutting out the creators of the games is ridiculous.
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I think you watching Netflix illegally is unethical, as it cuts out our local content providers and thus destroying jobs.
 
eye_suc said:
I think you watching Netflix illegally is unethical, as it cuts out our local content providers and thus destroying jobs.
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I have a DSTV subscription. I supplement it with Netflix because the local alternatives are crap.
 
Bryn said:
I have a DSTV subscription. I supplement it with Netflix because the local alternatives are crap.
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Ah, ok then it's alright.

I don't have DSTV, but I use Netflix :D And I buy 2nd hand games. I'm such a bastard.
 
eye_suc said:
Ah, ok then it's alright.

I don't have DSTV, but I use Netflix :D And I buy 2nd hand games. I'm such a bastard.
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Only partially. Local content producers have jacked up their streaming offerings precisely because so many people circumvent regional restrictions and use services abroad.

I'll probably switch to ShowMax once they've embraced 1080p.
 
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